Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Everyone looks for the easy way

22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.

23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.


I got saved around my 13th birthday, but there was no one to teach the word of God to me. I tried to read the Bible but couldn't understand it. I prayed and the Lord spoke to me but it made me feel like I might be crazy. Eventually all I wanted to do was to be able to pick up the Bible and understand it as easily as talking to Jesus and asking Him a question. In college I met a Christian group that had been raised up by Watchman Nee and learned the Bible based on his teachings and that of John Nelson Darby. However, this group did one thing very unique and that was that each meeting would end with a 30 minute time of personal testimonies. Not the "sea story" how you got saved 20 years ago, but what you got from the message just shared or some experience you had that week of Jesus. This could be very tough, very revealing, often humiliating to those who did share. So to make it very easy they "strongly encouraged" people to share from the ministry of Witness Lee. It was like a canned testimony. There were footnotes on every verse, so anyone could stand up and simply read a footnote, others would quote something he had written in one of his books. I had nothing against Witness Lee, but all my life I wanted to be able to read the Bible for myself and so I shared my experiences and what I got from the word. This led to some very serious persecution, apparently the reason they wanted people quoting Witness Lee was to sell his books and ministry. The testimonies were like "testimonials" to help sell his ministry. All those who went along with this were like those who savourest the things of men and not of God.

24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

Think about it, the word of God is a lamp unto my feet, not Witness Lee's ministry. I was helped to study and understand the word of God there, but I was not interested in being given a crutch. I think many, not just from that group, do the same. They use some ministry of the word as their crutch. Instead of the word of God being the truth it is that ministry which is the truth and instead of using the word of God to check, they use that ministry.

What I would say is this, reading the word of God for yourself is not the easy way, but it is the right way. Yes you need the ministry of seasoned brothers, because when you first pick up the word you are so prone to error. But don't become a parrot, that is the easy way, but not the right way. Take up your cross and follow the Lord, that is the right way, not the easy way.
 

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Four See Arrival of the Antichrist 01/23/2024

 

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Four See Arrival of the Antichrist 01/23/2024

In one of the dreams 14 minutes into the video it says there is a worldwide event that causes chaos (I assume that is the rapture) and they tell people to go back home, calm down and in two weeks they will have the solution and that is the antichrist being revealed. I think this is saying that two weeks after the rapture the Antichrist is revealed.

Also the revelation of the Antichrist is presented as "a solution". I think this is because at the same time that the rapture takes place destruction falls on "Mystery, the Great Babylon", that is the destruction of the USA as a superpower along with the death of 60 million (I estimate this number based on how many children were killed with abortion).
 

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The Rapture - Its Connection to Tu B'Shevat and the Menorah

 

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Brace yourself, incoming

A sign in the sun

⚠️ BREAKING: SOMETHING BIG HEADING OUR WAY! GET READY

 

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Gather up first the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them

Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather up first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn.

One of the reasons I started this thread was because of all the confusion about "when the day or the hour" is. No one knows and yet everyone seems to focus on that. My thought is why not focus on other things, like what goes on before the rapture which would then clue us into the fact that rapture is at hand. Joel tells us we have a worldwide pandemic before the rapture and here Jesus tells us that before the wheat is gathered into the barn (church raptured to heaven) He would first send forth the angels to gather the tares into bundles and burn them.

This is why I focus on things like the election integrity bills, Durham investigation, the Epstein investigation, the Ukraine war and what that has to do with Hunter Biden's laptop as well as Moloch and Baal worshippers, abortion, SCOTUS nominees like Jackson who seem to favor pedophiles. CRT and grooming of kids in public school. Steve Bannon, the pandemic, Naomi Wolf and their investigation of Pfizer, etc., etc. What we are witnessing is the gathering together of the tares into bundles to be burnt. It seems to me that this verse is clear that the tares are gathered into bundles first, but the actual burning of those bundles will very likely not take place prior to the rapture. The word is "bind them in bundles to burn them" -- the purpose is to burn them but the burning has not yet taken place when the wheat is gathered into the barn.
 

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7 Lamps of fire -- Heavenly sign?

What a SPECTACULAR light show! Where did THAT come from?

 

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Exodus 4:1 And Moses answered and said, But, behold, they will not believe me, nor hearken unto my voice: for they will say, The Lord hath not appeared unto thee.

2 And the Lord said unto him, What is that in thine hand? And he said, A rod.

3 And he said, Cast it on the ground. And he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from before it.

4 And the Lord said unto Moses, Put forth thine hand, and take it by the tail. And he put forth his hand, and caught it, and it became a rod in his hand:

5 That they may believe that the Lord God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath appeared unto thee.

I would say the same thing, they aren't going to listen to me. Who am I? 80 year old orphan, fugitive from the law, who is a shepherd out in Midian?

But let's be realistic, don't you think God knows all that? If He is calling you to do something he can also make a way for it to be done. This is the God who calls not being as being.

So, you throw down your staff and it becomes a snake, what does that mean? It means that Facebook which all the churches are using for livestreaming and for their meetings will ban you, suspend you or deplatform you if you say anything they don't like, like the verses about LGBTQ+ being sin. Or that if you question an illegal vaccine mandate of an experimental vaccine they will censor you and deplatform you. All of a sudden you discover that MSNBC is lying to you, Twitter is filled with bots that are lying to you, Christians are being shadow banned, the DOJ is labelling parents at school board meetings as domestic terrorists, the President calls 75 million Americans "domestic terrorists".

In 2021 I told many people the tribulation and rapture were about to take place. They thought I was nuts, but not now. What is the difference? The difference is they can see that staff they have been leaning on is a serpent.
 

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"Final Solution 2.0".

6 And the Lord said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snow.

7 And he said, Put thine hand into thy bosom again. And he put his hand into his bosom again; and plucked it out of his bosom, and, behold, it was turned again as his other flesh.

8 And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither hearken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign.

I also warned people about the vaccine. Again they refused to listen because it was crazy, why would the government mandate a vaccine that was bad for you and if it was bad for you where is the proof, and obviously it didn't kill many people so then what is the point? Since they couldn't understand the purpose of killing everyone they simply dismissed it. But now with AI predicted to take 60% of jobs this year, and that 40% unemployment this year is possible, and we are talking about the US, for China and other countries they are already there, now it is simple to understand. What is UBI? That is wasted money to the rich, why should they put 8 billion people on the dole when it is much cheaper to simply kill them and once they die the rich can take all their assets. Call it "Final Solution 2.0".

When I warned them I was "anti science" even though I am a scientist and a HS science teacher. I was also "anti vaxx" even though I had previously gotten all my shots so I could teach in NYC. I was the one with the "leprous hand". Spreading dangerous misinformation. But now, here we are just slightly more than two years later and the evidence is out, my hand is back to being healthy and all those who refused to listen, they are the ones with the leprousy.
 

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U B Ready 1/23/2024 UNCIVIL WAR

Ezekiel 12:25 For I am the LORD: I will speak, and the word that I shall speak shall come to pass; it shall be no more prolonged: for in your days, O rebellious house, will I say the word, and will perform it, saith the Lord GOD.


My son, nothing about the coming civil war will be civil. As the hearts of men grow colder, their quest for blood grows. It is not the elite who are driving the masses toward war - BUT IT IS I - says the LORD, for I have seen the hearts of men and the wickedness that permeates them. I AM ALLOWING the devil and his minions to give men what they want most - TO BE IN CONTROL. Just as it was in the days of Noah, man's heart is continuously wicked and filled with evil thoughts day and night. So instead of Me flooding the earth, I WILL ALLOW men to do what they know best - KILL.

My son, tell those in My body NOT to get caught up in the affairs of this world. Things will continue to DIVIDE, and the hatred will grow worse and worse. There will be no love found in the hearts of those who participate. Many will be led astray by false prophets who lead My children down the wrong road. My children think they are in the right because those prophesying and twisting My Word to fit their narratives are rich and have big followings. I USE the Jeremiahs and Ezekiels of this world - NOT the Hannaniahs. BEWARE OF WOLVES IN SHEEP CLOTHING! REPENT NOW!

My son, this rebellious nation is ready to war. The people are being forced to choose based on skin color and religious beliefs. I HAVE BLINDED THE EYES OF THOSE WHO REFUSE TO REPENT, AND I WILL CAUSE THEM TO BELIEVE THE LIE. This nation will continue to degrade in all areas until the MATCH of civil war is LIT. Then the FIRE of war will ERUPT and CONSUME every state. The borders will be locked down, and no one will be able to travel from one place to another. Martial law will try to keep people off the streets, but to no avail. The hatred will flow like blood in the streets. The states will try to secede, but this will only bring on more bloodshed. Satan will think he has won - because now the whole world is at war - and he will laugh with glee at how easy it was to destroy My Creation.

My son, the LAUGH IS ON HIM and his evil desires - for I HAVE SAVED BACK MY BEST - MY MIGHTY REMNANT - WHO WILL NEVER BEND THE KNEE TO SATAN!! My CHOSEN ONES - WHO WILL MARCH FORTH IN A WORLD OF WAR - REACHING THE LOST WITH THE POWER OF MY WORD! I SAY NOW TO THOSE WHO ARE ON THE FENCE - CHOOSE YOUR SIDE!! REPENT NOW AND TURN FROM YOUR EVIL WAYS AND JOIN MY REMNANT - OR - STAY WHERE YOU ARE AND PERISH IN THE UN-CIVIL WAR! I AM with heavy heart to know that many will choose to stay where they are. They will not jump by faith to be ALL IN for Me. They choose the world and its lies. I LOVE YOU ALL - BUT THE DAY TO CHOOSE IS NOW!!!

Amen. Lord Jesus

 

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7-16-22 Prophetic Word Given While in Prayer Group. (Shared 1-23-24)

 

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GOD SAYS AVOID THESE PEOPLE--AT ALL COSTS

 

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Summary of 2024 Prophecies 01/24/2024

 

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**Calvin's View of Prophecy:**

According to John Calvin, prophecy is a special gift of the Holy Spirit that enables certain individuals to receive and communicate divine messages, insights, and predictions. Prophets are not merely fortune-tellers or predictors of future events but are chosen by God to convey His will and purposes to His people.

**Sources from Calvin's Institutes of the Christian Religion:**

* **Book 2, Chapter 11, Section 1:** "Prophecy is a special gift of the Holy Spirit, whereby certain men were selected by God to explain His will to the people, and to set forth particularly those things which He wished to make known to them."


**Biblical Quotes Supporting Calvin's View:**

* **Amos 3:7:** "Surely the Lord GOD does nothing without revealing His secret to His servants the prophets."


* **1 Corinthians 14:3:** "But one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding, encouragement, and consolation."


* **Ephesians 4:11-12:** "And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ."


**Jacob's Knowledge of Future Events:**

In the example of Jacob blessing his sons in Genesis 49, Calvin suggests that Jacob's ability to foresee their future was not merely based on human wisdom or observation but was a result of divine revelation. Calvin believed that God had chosen Jacob as a prophet to communicate His plans and purposes for his descendants.

**Prophetic Warnings and Guidance:**

According to Calvin, prophecy often serves as a means of warning and guidance for God's people. By revealing future events or potential outcomes, prophets can help individuals and communities make informed decisions, avoid pitfalls, and align their actions with God's will.

**Prophetic Fulfillment and the Sovereignty of God:**

Calvin emphasized the importance of recognizing the sovereignty of God in prophecy. He argued that while prophets may receive glimpses of future events, the ultimate fulfillment and timing of those events are subject to God's sovereign control and purposes.
It is illegal to have AI generate a response without saying up front that the response was generated by AI. I suggest that in your signature line you write "I use AI to help me write all my posts" or something to that effect.
 

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The Shocking Meaning Behind This Biblical Parable Few People Know About

 

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The Shocking Meaning Behind This Biblical Parable Few People Know About

Very interesting, we think of salt as flavoring our food and melting the ice on our driveway. But he is saying that potash is a salt that is used as fertilizer to make things grow, and salt is used as a disinfectant where you use the toilet to keep the germs at bay, and we use salts to deal with sickness as well.

We use iodine to kill germs, but it rarely occurs except in the form of a salt.
 

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Very interesting, we think of salt as flavoring our food and melting the ice on our driveway. But he is saying that potash is a salt that is used as fertilizer to make things grow, and salt is used as a disinfectant where you use the toilet to keep the germs at bay, and we use salts to deal with sickness as well.

We use iodine to kill germs, but it rarely occurs except in the form of a salt.
You are the salt of the earth

Consider these uses of salt:

Sodium Chloride or Common Salt (NaCl)
  1. Used in cooking food as well as for cooking gas.
  2. Used as a preservative in pickles and in curing meat and fish.
  3. Used in the manufacture of soap.
  4. Used to melt the ice in winter in cold countries.
  5. Used for making chemical likes washing Soda, baking soda etc.
Sodium Hydroxide (NaOH)
  1. Used for making soap and detergent
  2. Used for making artificial textile fibre (rayon)
  3. Used in the manufacturing of paper
  4. Used for purification of bauxite ore
  5. Used in de-greasing metals, oil refining and making dyes and bleaches
Sodium Carbonate or Washing Soda (Na2CO3.10H2O)
  1. Used as cleansing agent
  2. Used for removing permanent hardness of water
  3. Used in the manufacturing of glass, soap and paper
Baking Soda or Sodium Bi-carbonate (NaHCO3)
  1. Used as neutralising agent (antacid)
  2. Used for making baking powder
  3. Used in fire extinguisher
Bleaching Powder or Calcium Hypochlorite
  1. Used as bleaching agent in cotton industry and paper industry for bleaching cotton and linen as well as wood pulp respectively
  2. Used for disinfecting drinking water
  3. Used for making chloroform (CHCl3)
  4. Used for making the wool unshrinkable
Plaster of Paris or Hemihydrate Calcium sulphate, CaSO4 1/2 H2O
  1. Used in hospital for setting fractured bone
  2. Used for making toys, decoration material cheap ornament, chalk etc
  3. Used for fire-proofing material
  4. Used for making surface smooth.
So when Jesus said "You are the salt" we are a key component in making a healthy meal. Think about the problem with Hollywood and Disney. You can have a really good, interesting story that could be made into a healthy meal, but there is no salt. As a result over time it goes bad, gets rotten, full of blasphemy, lasciviousness, and all kinds of evil. If you add salt the meal is not only good but it can be preserved. Think about reading a sermon from a hundred years ago that is still good today. They also use salt to make soap and detergent. The believers should be the salt that helps clean away the dirty things, the polluted things, the evil things. We use salt to melt ice, believers should share a message that warms up the frozen heart. Salt is used to make fibers for clothes, to cover people that are naked and ashamed. They use it to make glass, paper, aluminum, and work with many other metals. It is also used as an antacid, you can eat stuff in the world that disagrees with you, causes all kinds of internal problems, but the word of God ministered by believers should be able to neutralize that acid. Likewise with putting out a fire, they use salt for fire extinguishers. Used for making toys for children and used in hospitals to help heal broken bones. We have some Christians like Mr. Roger's neighborhood that are very talented at helping children, and other Christians who are very helpful as doctors helping heal this world.

There is a wide variety of uses for salt just as their is a wide variety of gifts and talents of the believers.
 

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9 When Pharaoh shall speak unto you, saying, Shew a miracle for you: then thou shalt say unto Aaron, Take thy rod, and cast it before Pharaoh, and it shall become a serpent.

10 And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the Lord had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent.

11 Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.

12 For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods.

13 And he hardened Pharaoh's heart, that he hearkened not unto them; as the Lord had said.

When CNN and MSNBC and Youtube and Facebook censored the news and speech the people cast those down, they left. Instead they watched live streams from people like Bannon, and they went to Rumble, and GETTR and TruthSocial.

So what was the world's response? They did the same thing. Mike Lindell was kicked out of 16 stores and Fox refused to let him buy advertising space. Not only so but they promoted competing pillow companies. However, Aaron's rod swallowed them up. Mike Lindell is not broke, instead he is making a better margin sellilng direct and saving a whole lot in advertising costs. They kicked Tucker Carlson off Fox, so he went private, now instead of getting 5 million views he gets 80 million. Rumble is growing exponentially, Bannon is the highest rated news show, Fox, CNN and MSNBC have all lost the lion share of their viewers.

Think of this as a heavy weight fight, it is only round 1 but won easily by Moses, Aaron and deplorable Jews.
 

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He whom God shall condemn shall pay double

Exodus 22:9 For every matter of trespass, whether it be for ox, for ass, for sheep, for raiment, or for any manner of lost thing, whereof one saith, This is it, the cause of both parties shall come before God; he whom God shall condemn shall pay double unto his neighbor.

Looking at the destruction that is prophesied during the tribulation and on the Great Babylon you realize they will have to pay double. We have shown evidence of a stolen election, and now with this vaccine Mandate where everyone must get the vaccine or lose their job they will have to pay double for that as well. I suspect NYC will pay a very high price for that as well as a number of other cities, states and countries.
 

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