Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

Niki7

Well-known member
Feb 21, 2023
1,985
743
113
That's why I like them as well. Candy coating and them bubble gum. A 2 for 1 kinda deal hahahaha

I have patience. I let the candy melt instead of chomping it. I saw a buddy of mine chip a tooth and from then on I let it melt hahaha
In the end, the candy and the dentist always win :cautious:
 

Everlasting-Grace

Well-known member
Dec 18, 2021
5,181
1,604
113
6 Who will render to every man according to his works. 7 To them indeed, who according to patience in good work, seek glory and honour and incorruption, eternal life: 8 But to them that are contentious, and who obey not the truth, but give credit to iniquity, wrath and indignation. 9 Tribulation and anguish upon every soul of man that worketh evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Greek. 10 But glory, and honour, and peace to every one that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
So you think you can earn salvation.

Good luck with that. the pharisees thought so too. They crucified Christ.
 

CS1

Well-known member
May 23, 2012
12,453
4,103
113
Jesus came to save that which was lost, yet HE was never lost :)
 

FollowerofShiloh

Well-known member
Jan 24, 2024
3,157
537
113
And he did.




View attachment 262149
Unfortunately the subjunctive here indicates probability; I admit that I tie it to Stephen, but Stephen did die, and saw Jesus on his last day.
Are you saying what Jesus to do and if one does it means it could not happen?

That would make Jesus a liar.

Do you have proof where Jesus lied to back your assumption here?
 

Everlasting-Grace

Well-known member
Dec 18, 2021
5,181
1,604
113
It not about believing; it is about trusting. And of course, works with faith that bring justification. Sorry about my mistakes on this board. I forget things sometimes.
Again

For I have been saved (a completed action) By grace through faith.

Faith is a trust.

i trust God. Not myself..
 

FollowerofShiloh

Well-known member
Jan 24, 2024
3,157
537
113
In the end, the candy and the dentist always win :cautious:
And the dentist is hoping for it. I think some of them are narcissist. Telling you how dumb you are and why you're sitting in their chair for doing stupid things hahaha
 

Everlasting-Grace

Well-known member
Dec 18, 2021
5,181
1,604
113
The lost could be any innocent victim. All are spiritually alive, and God wakes all that die, whether they live in hell or the kingdom was their choice.
The lost are not innocent. Paul said in romans 1 no one has an excuse.

Your right, it is their choice

whoever believes is no longer condemned, who does not believe is already condemned
 

Niki7

Well-known member
Feb 21, 2023
1,985
743
113
Wondering if 7th Moon has named himself after the horror film by the same name.

I did not watch it as I do not care for that genre but it does sound as spiritually unsound as some ideas I have seen floating about on this thread

:eek:
 
Apr 27, 2023
538
39
28
So you think you can earn salvation.

Good luck with that. the pharisees thought so too. They crucified Christ.
Salvation is never earned, and you have proven you don't understand the meaning of the term.

One has to be justified (or even, just) to enter the Kingdom of God and be seen.
 
Apr 27, 2023
538
39
28
Wondering if 7th Moon has named himself after the horror film by the same name.

I did not watch it as I do not care for that genre but it does sound as spiritually unsound as some ideas I have seen floating about on this thread

:eek:
It's about the seventh moon in the Hebrew calendar which is on the first day of the week.
 

Niki7

Well-known member
Feb 21, 2023
1,985
743
113
And the dentist is hoping for it. I think some of them are narcissist. Telling you how dumb you are and why you're sitting in their chair for doing stupid things hahaha
At the time I had a really good dentist (he has since moved too far to frequent). The lady who did the actual plumbing was also really good. Amazing the tiny tools they have for extracting all the tooth stuff.

The lady dentist I have now must have learned her trade in the army. She is rough . Efficient, but rough
 

FollowerofShiloh

Well-known member
Jan 24, 2024
3,157
537
113
7thMoon

Are you saying according to the conjunctive verb this verse might not be true?

40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
 
Apr 27, 2023
538
39
28
What? The movie? Don't quite get what you are saying
There is a seventh month, seventh moon in the old Hebrew lunar calendar. The old calendar has 364 days, 13 months, 28 days per month.
 

Niki7

Well-known member
Feb 21, 2023
1,985
743
113
There is a seventh month, seventh moon in the old Hebrew lunar calendar. The old calendar has 364 days, 13 months, 28 days per month.
OK....good job it is not the movie ;)

Thanks
 
Apr 27, 2023
538
39
28
7thMoon

Are you saying according to the conjunctive verb this verse might not be true?

40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
I am having trouble with Greek word order too. Notice should could be replaced with might, and you would actually have to see the messiah for the statement to be true.