The deity of Christ

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Blain

Blain

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Jesus, the fleshly form of God himself and the son of God while being the son of man. Only he could be sacrificed to save us for his blood was pure and without sin. However he did have the ability to sin, man is far different than God, God is not capable of sin for he is holy and righteous pure in every way. But he chose to be among us in the body that has the capability of sinning to show that that he is God of all and only he can save us.


This is why I think satan tempted him in the desert, I think he knew that Jesus in human form has the ability to sin and he already brought down man with temptation so I think he intended to do the same with Jesus. For if he could bring down God himself then who could stand against him? Of course it was a futile effort because Jesus didnt sin not even once for he is God and has power and dominion over all things especially sin.

Jesus came here as a humble servant putting himself lower than man, satan had one shot to get him to bring him down and he thought he had succeeded in Jesus' death but unknowingly had only helped fulfill what was already written would happen.

But next time he comes he wont be as humble servant lower than man he will come in awe inspiring power glory majesty and righteousness and he will strike the wicked and smite the unrighteous and he will prove that he is God. and even satan himself will kneel before Christ and admit that he is king of kings and lord of lords before he is thrown into the lake of fire.
 
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Butch5

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Blain said:
Jesus, the fleshly form of God himself and the son of God while being the son of man. Only he could be sacrificed to save us for his blood was pure and without sin. However he did have the ability to sin, man is far different than God, God is not capable of sin for he is holy and righteous pure in every way. But he chose to be among us in the body that has the capability of sinning to show that that he is God of all and only he can save us.

This is why I think satan tempted him in the desert, I think he knew that Jesus in human form has the ability to sin and he already brought down man with temptation so I think he intended to do the same with Jesus. For if he could bring down God himself then who could stand against him? Of course it was a futile effort because Jesus didnt sin not even once for he is God and has power and dominion over all things especially sin.

Jesus came here as a humble servant putting himself lower than man, satan had one shot to get him to bring him down and he thought he had succeeded in Jesus' death but unknowingly had only helped fulfill what was already written would happen.

But next time he comes he wont be as humble servant lower than man he will come in awe inspiring power glory majesty and righteousness and he will strike the wicked and smite the unrighteous and he will prove that he is God. and even satan himself will kneel before Christ and admit that he is king of kings and lord of lords before he is thrown into the lake of fire.
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Hi Blain,

Your opening statement is a little confusing, can you clarify?

Jesus, the fleshly form of God himself and the son of God while being the son of man.
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It sounds like you're saying He is His own Son.
 
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jdbear

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God is His own Son:

"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh..." 1 Tim.3:16
 
Sola_Scriptura

Sola_Scriptura

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jdbear said:
God is His own Son:

"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh..." 1 Tim.3:16
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God the Father and God the Son are 2 separate beings. The misunderstanding of the word "one" leads many to believe the opposite.

God Bless
 
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jdbear

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Sola_Scriptura said:
God the Father and God the Son are 2 separate beings. The misunderstanding of the word "one" leads many to believe the opposite.

God Bless
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Hi Sola_Scriptura. I'm not misunderstanding the word "one". If God is 2 separate Beings, then God isn't God alone:

Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Is.44:6

Beside God, there is no other God...not even seated at His right.
 
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JesusIsAll

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Sola_Scriptura said:
God the Father and God the Son are 2 separate beings. The misunderstanding of the word "one" leads many to believe the opposite.
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Tell us something, Sola_Scriptura. Your user name reflects scripture alone, so what do you think of Ellen G. White? And what is your opinion of sneaky Seventh Day Adventist websites that won't even clearly identify themselves as of that cult?
 
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elf3

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Sola_Scriptura said:
God the Father and God the Son are 2 separate beings. The misunderstanding of the word "one" leads many to believe the opposite.

God Bless
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This is a false statement. If you state that God the Father and God the Son are 2 separate beings prove it by God's Word. Use only scripture because I don't care what others say. I care what God says.
 
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Sola_Scriptura

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elf3 said:
This is a false statement. If you state that God the Father and God the Son are 2 separate beings prove it by God's Word. Use only scripture because I don't care what others say. I care what God says.
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There is alot of Scripture, however, I will use a few that need no other interpretation:

John 8 "[SUP]16 [/SUP]And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me. [SUP]17 [/SUP]It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. [SUP]18 [/SUP]I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me."[SUP]28 [/SUP]Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. [SUP]29 [/SUP]And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him." "[SUP]38 [/SUP]I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father." "[SUP]42 [/SUP]Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me." "[SUP]49 [/SUP]Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me." "[SUP]53 [/SUP]Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? [SUP]54 [/SUP]Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:"

John 14 (many use verses 7-9 to prove a singular deity; the context reveals the truth) "[SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. [SUP]7 [/SUP]If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.[SUP] 8 [/SUP]Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? [SUP]10 [/SUP]Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake. [SUP]12 [/SUP]Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. [SUP]13 [/SUP]And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son." "[SUP]16 [/SUP]And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;" "[SUP]21 [/SUP]He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him." "[SUP]23 [/SUP]Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. [SUP]24 [/SUP]He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me." "[SUP]26 [/SUP]But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." "[SUP]28 [/SUP]Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. (I am not saying that Jesus is not deity; I am saying the 2 cannot be the same if One is greater than the Other)" "[SUP]31 [/SUP]But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence."

Acts 7 "[SUP]55 [/SUP]But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, [SUP]56 [/SUP]and said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God."

I could add alot more, but if this isn't convincing enough, more wouldn't convince you. Sola Scriptura!

God Bless
 
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Elin

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Blain said:
Jesus, the fleshly form of God himself
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Not a form of God, but God in the flesh.

and the son of God while being the son of man. Only he could be sacrificed to save us for his blood was pure and without sin. However he did have the ability to sin, man is far different than God, God is not capable of sin for he is holy and righteous pure in every way. But he chose to be among us in the body that has the capability of sinning to show that that he is God of all and only he can save us.

This is why I think satan tempted him in the desert, I think he knew that Jesus in human form has the ability to sin and he already brought down man with temptation so I think he intended to do the same with Jesus. For if he could bring down God himself then who could stand against him? Of course it was a futile effort because Jesus didnt sin not even once for he is God and has power and dominion over all things especially sin.

Jesus came here as a humble servant putting himself lower than man, satan had one shot to get him to bring him down and he thought he had succeeded in Jesus' death but unknowingly had only helped fulfill what was already written would happen.

But next time he comes he wont be as humble servant lower than man he will come in awe inspiring power glory majesty and righteousness and he will strike the wicked and smite the unrighteous and he will prove that he is God. and even satan himself will kneel before Christ and admit that he is king of kings and lord of lords before he is thrown into the lake of fire.
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Sola_Scriptura said:
God the Father and God the Son are 2 separate beings. The misunderstanding of the word "one" leads many to believe the opposite.
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Actually, God the Father and God the Son are two separate persons in one being.
 
Sola_Scriptura

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Heh. Poor choice of words, but you know what I meant. I concur. 2 persons, 1 being (the Godhead).

God Bless
 
Sola_Scriptura

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elf3 said:
Ok so you believe in the Deity of Jesus?
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From what I have seen in the Bible, the deity of Jesus Christ is so obvious that I would have to completely ignore the text to come to the conclusion that He isn't.

God Bless
 
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elf3

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Sola_Scriptura said:
From what I have seen in the Bible, the deity of Jesus Christ is so obvious that I would have to completely ignore the text to come to the conclusion that He isn't.

God Bless
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Ok then I TOTALLY misunderstood the one post you had. Lol I am sorry for that
 
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elf3

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Sola_Scriptura said:
From what I have seen in the Bible, the deity of Jesus Christ is so obvious that I would have to completely ignore the text to come to the conclusion that He isn't.

God Bless
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For me John 1:1 pretty much proves the deity of Jesus!
 
ThomistColin

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Sola_Scriptura said:
Heh. Poor choice of words, but you know what I meant. I concur. 2 persons, 1 being (the Godhead).

God Bless
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I'm sorry, but you don't get off that easily. You openly denied the doctrine of the Godhead AKA the doctrine of the Trinity. Then, you say you do. This has kicked off an alarm in me, are you dualist? Only the Father and the Son?
 
ThomistColin

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Sola_Scriptura said:
A short study on this subject.

Is the Trinity true?

God Bless
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Nevermind, this is just plain heresy. You claim three Gods in this. It's disgusting and vile. You literally posted something that says there is not one God, but three Gods, because you want each of the three persons to be a god. That's simply heresy.
 
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elf3

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ThomistColin said:
Nevermind, this is just plain heresy. You claim three Gods in this. It's disgusting and vile. You literally posted something that says there is not one God, but three Gods, because you want each of the three persons to be a god. That's simply heresy.
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Wait what? I didn't look at the video post thing.
 
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elf3

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ThomistColin said:
Nevermind, this is just plain heresy. You claim three Gods in this. It's disgusting and vile. You literally posted something that says there is not one God, but three Gods, because you want each of the three persons to be a god. That's simply heresy.
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Ok I just read part of that thing I now see what you mean. Yeah that's not good.

Try the sneaky way in to spread your heresy eh sola have to give you creds on that but now you are exposed!

TC is correct simply heresy!
 
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