Mark 13:32 ‘About the Second Coming of the Lord’

[Jorina]

Hi everyone,

This explanation of Mark 13:32 is something i wanted to share with you. So it is not my intention to start a discussion but maybe that is okay every once in a while even if this is called 'Bible Discussion Forum'. I just wanted to shine a little light on the verse and to urge you to get ready for the day the Lord will be coming back.

Mark 13:32 ‘About the Second Coming of the Lord’

“But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.”

The date and time of the Second Coming is not known to the Son. No one knows when He will return, only the Father.

This refers to a Jewish wedding tradition: it was the custom that a man would visit the father of the woman he wanted to marry to ask the father permission to marry his daughter. If the father gave his consent, the man would leave, go to his home and was not allowed to speak or see the woman until their wedding day.

But before they could marry, he first had to find or build a home for them where they could live together after the wedding day. So the man went looking for a good home or a nice place and had the house built or fixed and made ​​sure that it would be the best possible home for him and his future wife.

However, it was not up to him to decide when the house was ready. He had to wait until he received his father’s approval of the house. His father would be overlooking the work, checking if everything was in order and whether the house was good enough for his son and the bride-to-be. The son had to keep continuing to build, repair, improve and decorate the house until the father would give his approval. The wedding would be held when the father would give his approval for the house.

This means that neither the man nor the woman would know exactly the date or time of upcoming wedding day. Only the father of the bridegroom knew. So as soon as the woman knew that her father had giving his approval to the man in order to marry her, his daughter, she had to start making preparations (with the help of her family and female friends) for the wedding day. Everything had to be ready as soon as the father of the bridegroom would give his approval on the house that the man was working on.

It is like this also with the Second Coming. Jesus tells us (John 14: 2-3): “In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto my-self; that where I am, there ye may be also.”

The Lord Jesus, the bridegroom of the Church went to work to prepare a place for His bride (the people who believe in Him and know Him as their Saviour), to create a home where He could live together with her forever. He will continue to work on the house to make it even more beautiful until the moment comes that His Father will tell Him that it is ready. The Son does not know when the Second Coming will be, but He and the house will be ready, because the Father will give His approval only if they are both ready.

The bride (the children of the Lord) will also need to be ready. The entire Church, but also ever single child individually. The Groom is already gone to work on the house. How much time will He need?

Nów is the time to make sure that you are ready! You have to be ready to celebrate when the Bridegroom will come to take you to the wedding. Are you ready? Have you said goodbye to the things of this life, of your past? Your old life? Are you able to let go of everything that will hold you back when the Bridegroom takes your hand and wants to bring you to the house He prepared for you?

Jesus is full of desire to be re-united with His Bride. Would the Wedding be today? Hurry! Get ready; it is a beautiful day!

Are you also longing for that wedding day? If you are, and if you are ready and eagerly awaiting the moment you will see your Bridegroom arriving, then it will truly be the best day of your life!

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Every day i somehow get so focused on the things on earth, on the people i love, on the problems i have to face and on everything that needs to be planned and done and organised and.... All these things keep me tied to the earth and to earthly goods when i should be tied to the Lord and Heavenly goods. I should be getting ready, no, i have to be ready nów because today could be the day the Lord comes back.

I know that my english is not very well if it comes to frases and words used in describing things about believing, the Bible, the Lord etcetera. So i might be saying things that seem a bit off or that have a very different meaning than the one i think it has. So if you read something that does not sounds right of that is written uncorrectly, please let me know.

 

[Jason0047]

The term rapture comes from the Greek word harpazo, which means "to seize, catch away, catch up, pluck, pull, take by force" (1 Thessalonians 4:17). The Hebrew equivalent is the word natzal. It is the time when the Lord will come for His own, when Jesus will descend through the stratosphere and take those of us who have trusted in Him to be with Himself. It is imminent, it can happen at any moment; it can happen today, it can happen ten years from now. We do not know when it will be, but it could happen at any time. And so, the prophecy of the Feast of Trumpets will be fulfilled in the Rapture of the Church. It has not yet been fulfilled. We are still in the period between Pentecost and Trumpets in God's prophetic calendar.

However, one of the biggest misunderstandings of the Rapture I found is that it is confused with the Second coming of Christ or what I would like to call the "2nd Rapture". This confusion usually stems from a person not fully grasping the necessary different steps in marriage and how it relates to Christ and His Bride (i.e. the church). For the 1st Rapture is the actual call to the marriage itself and the 2nd Rapture (i.e. The Second Coming) is the call to the marriage supper.

But, whatever position you hold on the Rapture, I think it is safe to assume that most of us here will all agree that the Lord's Rapture of His church is analogous to marriage in some way and that there is some kind of call announcing it.

In fact, there is a great New Testament passage that talks about marriage and a call being made. It is the parable of the Ten Virgins (Matthew 25:1-13). A parable that is about a bridegroom putting out the call for marriage and ten virgins being properly ready for that call so that they could take part in his wedding ceremony. For these virgins did not know the hour of his call for they were surprised at midnight by it while they were asleep. They had to be ready with enough oil in their lamps in order to see and walk at night in order to reach the location of the wedding ceremony. In other words, Christians are the Brides who have to be properly prepared for the call of their Bridegroom, who is Christ. For He could come at an hour or a day that they do not know.

In addition, the Scriptures also tells us about a wedding and a call going forth within the Old Testament, too.

For According to Genesis 41:45 and Psalm 81:3, Joseph had blown the trumpet on the new moon during the feast day through out the land of Egypt just after receiving permission to marry Asenath.

So when Joseph went out through the land of Egypt:

• Genesis 41:45-46 (Joseph had received Asenath to marry)

And Pharaoh called Joseph's name Zaphnathpaaneah; and he gave him to wife Asenath the daughter of Potipherah priest of On. And Joseph went out over all the land of Egypt. And Joseph was thirty years old when he stood before Pharaoh king of Egypt. And Joseph went out from the presence of Pharaoh, and went throughout all the land of Egypt.


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• Psalm 81:3-5 (Joseph had blown the trumpet on feast day within the new moon)

Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day. For this was a statute for Israel, and a law of the God of Jacob. This he ordained in Joseph for a testimony, when he went out through the land of Egypt: where I heard a language that I understood not.​

Wow, isn't that amazing? Here we have the receiving of the bride and the blowing of the trumpet on the new moon within the feast of days. A wedding and a trumpet call both being made!

 

[Blain]

Ty so much for this post I have been thinking of the grand wedding for a while now. Ever since I had a vision of being a bride for Jesus I have longed to marry him. I actually felt what it feels like to be a bride for him, I felt so clean so pure so happy and wonderful I even could smell the sweet scented perfumes and ointments that we would wear in our preparations and my own gown was being made and measured.

Then I learned of the feast of trumpets and how this specific jewish holiday is seen as what you have just described, and the only one that no one knows the day or hour of when it begins. I thought I learned the truth that he would come for his bride either on or very near this holiday but at the same time I felt very sad and was mourning, I wasnt filled with hope I was filled with tears and sadness because if he didnt come this year I had to wait an entire year at least maybe more to marry him.

But now that I read your post I am starting to ponder to if I indeed found the truth or perhaps the imminent rapture belief is in fact true. Im not sure what to think here or what to believe, when I believed in the imminent rapture I often times wore myself out spiritually because after a long time of hoping and looking up I had lost almost all hope and I couldnt for the life of me believe even though I truly wanted to.
I just dont think I can go through that again, it was far to heavy a burden to bear. I cant do it again if i dont believe and if i cannot have hope and be excited for his coming then there is no point.

 

[Jason0047]

However, one of the biggest misunderstandings of the Rapture I found is that it is confused with the Second coming of Christ or what I would like to call the "2nd Rapture". This confusion usually stems from a person not fully grasping the necessary different steps in marriage and how it relates to Christ and His Bride (i.e. the church). For the 1st Rapture is the actual call to the marriage itself and the 2nd Rapture (i.e. The Second Coming) is the call to the marriage supper.

For at the rapture, the LORD calls His church up to a wedding/marriage

• Matthew 25:10

And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

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But at the second coming to earth, He is returning from a wedding

• Luke 12:36

And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.​

 

[JesusIsAll]

Jewish Wedding Traditions & the Rapture <-- click​

 

[Jason0047]

Ty so much for this post I have been thinking of the grand wedding for a while now. Ever since I had a vision of being a bride for Jesus I have longed to marry him. I actually felt what it feels like to be a bride for him, I felt so clean so pure so happy and wonderful I even could smell the sweet scented perfumes and ointments that we would wear in our preparations and my own gown was being made and measured.

Then I learned of the feast of trumpets and how this specific jewish holiday is seen as what you have just described, and the only one that no one knows the day or hour of when it begins. I thought I learned the truth that he would come for his bride either on or very near this holiday but at the same time I felt very sad and was mourning, I wasnt filled with hope I was filled with tears and sadness because if he didnt come this year I had to wait an entire year at least maybe more to marry him.

But now that I read your post I am starting to ponder to if I indeed found the truth or perhaps the imminent rapture belief is in fact true. Im not sure what to think here or what to believe, when I believed in the imminent rapture I often times wore myself out spiritually because after a long time of hoping and looking up I had lost almost all hope and I couldnt for the life of me believe even though I truly wanted to.
I just dont think I can go through that again, it was far to heavy a burden to bear. I cant do it again if i dont believe and if i cannot have hope and be excited for his coming then there is no point.

I talk more about the Feast of Trumpets and the Rapture in my commentary on the Rapture in my extensive Chronology of Revelation and the Olivet Discourse:

ECT Chronology of Revelation & the Olivet Discourse, etc. - Theology Online | Christian Forums & More

 

[Blain]

I talk more about the Feast of Trumpets and the Rapture in my commentary on the Rapture in my extensive Chronology of Revelation and the Olivet Discourse:

ECT Chronology of Revelation & the Olivet Discourse, etc. - Theology Online | Christian Forums & More

What an interesting looking forum, what is it about exactly I dont know what theology is and what is not allowed in such a forum.

 

[Jason0047]

What an interesting looking forum, what is it about exactly I dont know what theology is and what is not allowed in such a forum.

Not sure if you are being smart or not, but as you may know the word "Theology" means the study of the things of God. However, just to let you know, I have left TOL (TheologyOnline.com) because there was a lot of darkness there. I provided the link because it would be difficult to reproduce that same information here (Seeing that my posts on the subject are extensively long).

The chronology is not meant to be authorative, but a proposed chronology of the End Times. I have re-arranged the chronology based on Scripture many times in prayer over a period of several months and in reading many End Times articles.

Anyways, I hope this helps.

Peace be unto you and may God bless you.

 

[Blain]

Not sure if you are being smart or not, but as you may know the word "Theology" means the study of the things of God. However, just to let you know, I have left TOL (TheologyOnline.com) because there was a lot of darkness there. I provided the link because it would be difficult to reproduce that same information here (Seeing that my posts on the subject are extensively long).

The chronology is not meant to be authorative, but a proposed chronology of the End Times. I have re-arranged the chronology based on Scripture many times in prayer over a period of several months and in reading many End Times articles.

Anyways, I hope this helps.

Peace be unto you and may God bless you.

Oh no I wasnt being smart at all im sorry if i came across that way

 

[psychomom]

Jorina...i wish my English was a good as yours. ♥

~ellie

 

[Jason0047]

Oh no I wasnt being smart at all im sorry if i came across that way

It's all good, my friend.

 

[dcontroversal]

The term rapture comes from the Greek word harpazo, which means "to seize, catch away, catch up, pluck, pull, take by force" (1 Thessalonians 4:17). The Hebrew equivalent is the word natzal. It is the time when the Lord will come for His own, when Jesus will descend through the stratosphere and take those of us who have trusted in Him to be with Himself. It is imminent, it can happen at any moment; it can happen today, it can happen ten years from now. We do not know when it will be, but it could happen at any time. And so, the prophecy of the Feast of Trumpets will be fulfilled in the Rapture of the Church. It has not yet been fulfilled. We are still in the period between Pentecost and Trumpets in God's prophetic calendar.

However, one of the biggest misunderstandings of the Rapture I found is that it is confused with the Second coming of Christ or what I would like to call the "2nd Rapture". This confusion usually stems from a person not fully grasping the necessary different steps in marriage and how it relates to Christ and His Bride (i.e. the church). For the 1st Rapture is the actual call to the marriage itself and the 2nd Rapture (i.e. The Second Coming) is the call to the marriage supper.

But, whatever position you hold on the Rapture, I think it is safe to assume that most of us here will all agree that the Lord's Rapture of His church is analogous to marriage in some way and that there is some kind of call announcing it.

In fact, there is a great New Testament passage that talks about marriage and a call being made. It is the parable of the Ten Virgins (Matthew 25:1-13). A parable that is about a bridegroom putting out the call for marriage and ten virgins being properly ready for that call so that they could take part in his wedding ceremony. For these virgins did not know the hour of his call for they were surprised at midnight by it while they were asleep. They had to be ready with enough oil in their lamps in order to see and walk at night in order to reach the location of the wedding ceremony. In other words, Christians are the Brides who have to be properly prepared for the call of their Bridegroom, who is Christ. For He could come at an hour or a day that they do not know.

In addition, the Scriptures also tells us about a wedding and a call going forth within the Old Testament, too.

For According to Genesis 41:45 and Psalm 81:3, Joseph had blown the trumpet on the new moon during the feast day through out the land of Egypt just after receiving permission to marry Asenath.

So when Joseph went out through the land of Egypt:

• Genesis 41:45-46 (Joseph had received Asenath to marry)

And Pharaoh called Joseph's name Zaphnathpaaneah; and he gave him to wife Asenath the daughter of Potipherah priest of On. And Joseph went out over all the land of Egypt. And Joseph was thirty years old when he stood before Pharaoh king of Egypt. And Joseph went out from the presence of Pharaoh, and went throughout all the land of Egypt.


​

• Psalm 81:3-5 (Joseph had blown the trumpet on feast day within the new moon)

Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day. For this was a statute for Israel, and a law of the God of Jacob. This he ordained in Joseph for a testimony, when he went out through the land of Egypt: where I heard a language that I understood not.​

Wow, isn't that amazing? Here we have the receiving of the bride and the blowing of the trumpet on the new moon within the feast of days. A wedding and a trumpet call both being made!

I suggest you read 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2, as Paul said the BODY PRESENCE (Parousia, COMING) of Jesus and our gathering together unto to HIM shall NOT COME until 2 things take place...

1. The MAN of SIN BE REVEALED
2. The complete APOSTATIZATION (Apostasy, APO-HYSTAMIE) of humanity takes place....

So who is the man of sin, when was he revealed and what exactly is his name?

 

[Blain]

I suggest you read 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2, as Paul said the BODY PRESENCE (Parousia, COMING) of Jesus and our gathering together unto to HIM shall NOT COME until 2 things take place...

1. The MAN of SIN BE REVEALED
2. The complete APOSTATIZATION (Apostasy, APO-HYSTAMIE) of humanity takes place....

So who is the man of sin, when was he revealed and what exactly is his name?

Well the apostasy of humanity..... in all honesty I wouldnt be surprised if that has already happened, I mean so many people worship idols who are either music stars or movie stars, hip hop and rap music(nonChristian) is mostly about money sex success and bragging and cussing, Hardly anyone has good morals anymore and there is so much violence murder stealing and beating of children and wives that its mayhem, also they are working on combining human dna with animal dna and I know because a friend of mine works at this government research center and while he isnt allowed to say much or tell me very much of what they are doing he did mention this.


as for the man of sin, i honestly only see two ppl who could be him the pope and obama.
The pope is loved and adored by all, and i have heard many bad things like him trying to get a one world religion and saying things about Christians and catholics but I dont know it for sure so I dont have much to go on with him.

Obama however I find it very strange how some people have called him the messiah and others have drawn pictures of him being God, another thing is I find it odd that his name is in the bible and is refered to as satan. But still it remains unkown who the man of sin is

 

[Jamal]

The date and time of the Second Coming is not known to the Son. No one knows when He will return, only the Father.

Jesus said he didn't know the day or the hour. But, he knew the generation. And, he told us the generation.

This refers to a Jewish wedding tradition: it was the custom that a man would visit the father of the woman he wanted to marry to ask the father permission to marry his daughter. If the father gave his consent, the man would leave, go to his home and was not allowed to speak or see the woman until their wedding day.

I never heard of that in Jewish tradition engaged men and women avoided each other until the wedding? Where'd you hear of it? Joseph and Mary were engaged, betrothed, and traveling together, before their wedding day.

 

[Sola_Scriptura]

I suggest you read 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2, as Paul said the BODY PRESENCE (Parousia, COMING) of Jesus and our gathering together unto to HIM shall NOT COME until 2 things take place...

1. The MAN of SIN BE REVEALED
2. The complete APOSTATIZATION (Apostasy, APO-HYSTAMIE) of humanity takes place....

So who is the man of sin, when was he revealed and what exactly is his name?

Well said dc. 2 Thessalonians 2 is clear regarding the timing of the return of Jesus. The man of sin must be revealed and the apostasy must take place before Jesus returns for His children.

Bible verses about 'the Rapture'

God Bless

 

[john832]

Jesus said he didn't know the day or the hour. But, he knew the generation. And, he told us the generation.

I would suspect that He knows the week and within a few days.

I never heard of that in Jewish tradition engaged men and women avoided each other until the wedding? Where'd you hear of it? Joseph and Mary were engaged, betrothed, and traveling together, before their wedding day.

 

[john832]

Well said dc. 2 Thessalonians 2 is clear regarding the timing of the return of Jesus. The man of sin must be revealed and the apostasy must take place before Jesus returns for His children.

Bible verses about 'the Rapture'

God Bless

What Christ does to the man of sin at His return...

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

He burns the Beast and the False Prophet to death in the Lake of Fire.

 

[dcontroversal]

Well the apostasy of humanity..... in all honesty I wouldnt be surprised if that has already happened, I mean so many people worship idols who are either music stars or movie stars, hip hop and rap music(nonChristian) is mostly about money sex success and bragging and cussing, Hardly anyone has good morals anymore and there is so much violence murder stealing and beating of children and wives that its mayhem, also they are working on combining human dna with animal dna and I know because a friend of mine works at this government research center and while he isnt allowed to say much or tell me very much of what they are doing he did mention this.


as for the man of sin, i honestly only see two ppl who could be him the pope and obama.
The pope is loved and adored by all, and i have heard many bad things like him trying to get a one world religion and saying things about Christians and catholics but I dont know it for sure so I dont have much to go on with him.

Obama however I find it very strange how some people have called him the messiah and others have drawn pictures of him being God, another thing is I find it odd that his name is in the bible and is refered to as satan. But still it remains unkown who the man of sin is

I coined the phrase apostatization and my friend who teaches English in a college has submitted it for me and if you note the word apostasy is applied after the man of sin has been revealed and I think personally goes to the state of the world receiving the man of sin as the dividing line....meaning....all men, women and children will have a final moment in time to either receive God and or receive the Little Horn/Beast.....as the word carries the idea of a completed act or state...when the man of sin is revealed...Humanity must choose between the man of sin and or God.

 

[Sola_Scriptura]

the word apostasy is applied after the man of sin has been revealed and I think personally goes to the state of the world receiving the man of sin as the dividing line....meaning....all men, women and children will have a final moment in time to either receive God and or receive the Little Horn/Beast.....as the word carries the idea of a completed act or state...when the man of sin is revealed...Humanity must choose between the man of sin and or God.

My studies on the subject reveal the same conclusion. Amen.

God Bless

 

[dcontroversal]

My studies on the subject reveal the same conclusion. Amen.

God Bless

AMEN as the word of God will lead all to the same conclusions concerning everything at the end of the day....not that we cannot glean the same truth from a different approach, but the conclusion(s) will be the same for sure.......!