Passover-30 days too late, what manner of manna is this?

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Exodus 16:1 And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departing out of the land of Egypt.

Exodus 16:12 I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel: speak unto them, saying , At even ye shall eat flesh, and in the morning (the 16[SUP]th[/SUP]) ye shall be filled with bread; and ye shall know that I am the LORD your God.

Exodus 16:22 And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.
23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said , To morrow (the 22[SUP]nd[/SUP]) is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe ; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.

1 And the LORD spake unto Moses in the wilderness of Sinai, in the first month of the second year after they were come out of the land of Egypt, saying ,
2 Let the children of Israel also keep the passover at his appointed season.
3 In the fourteenth day of this month, at even, ye shall keep it in his appointed season: according to all the rites of it, and according to all the ceremonies thereof, shall ye keep it.

Numbers 9:6-11
6 And there were certain men, who were defiled by the dead body of a man, that they could not keep the passover on that day: and they came before Moses and before Aaron on that day:
7 And those men said unto him, We are defiled by the dead body of a man: wherefore are we kept back , that we may not offer an offering of the LORD in his appointed season among the children of Israel?
8 And Moses said unto them, Stand still , and I will hear what the LORD will command concerning you.
9 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
10 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying , If any man of you or of your posterity shall be unclean by reason of a dead body, or be in a journey afar off, yet he shall keep the passover unto the LORD.
11 The fourteenth day of the second month at even (the beginning of the 15[SUP]th[/SUP]) they shall keep it, and eat it with unleavened bread and bitter herbs.

When Hezekiah restored the Temple worship the priests had not been sanctified in time to celebrate Passover in the first month.

2 Chronicles 30:1-3
1 And Hezekiah sent to all Israel and Judah, and wrote letters also to Ephraim and Manasseh, that they should come to the house of the LORD at Jerusalem, to keep the passover unto the LORD God of Israel.
2 For the king had taken counsel , and his princes, and all the congregation in Jerusalem, to keep the passover in the second month.
3 For they could not keep it at that time, because the priests had not sanctified themselves sufficiently , neither had the people gathered themselves together to Jerusalem.

2 Chronicles 30:13-15
13 And there assembled at Jerusalem much people to keep the feast of unleavened bread in the second month, a very great congregation.
14 And they arose and took away the altars that were in Jerusalem, and all the altars for incense took they away , and cast them into the brook Kidron.
15 Then they killed the passover on the fourteenth day of the second month: and the priests and the Levites were ashamed , and sanctified themselves, and brought in the burnt offerings into the house of the LORD.

Two times in Biblical history, Passover was allowed to be celebrated at the same time manna fell from heaven.
This was 30 days later than the original Passover day of the first month in Exodus 12.
This was the same number of days Israel mourned after both Aaron's and Moses' death.
This amount could also be relevant to the 30 pieces of silver negotiated between the Pharisees and Judas for the betrayal of Jesus.
Jesus was 30 years old when He was baptized recorded in Luke 3:22-23.
To me this relates to Christ's death, His dedication, along with our response of sincere dedication toward Him. Any thoughts for learning?
 

john832

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The second Passover is available EVERY year. It is the only Feast Day that is so important that God gives it a second observance for those who have missed it the first time.
 

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I Cor. 5:7 Since Christ is now our Passover and His blood remains upon me, tell me again why I need a special day?
 

john832

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I Cor. 5:7 Since Christ is now our Passover and His blood remains upon me, tell me again why I need a special day?
Try reading the next verse...


1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
 
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I Cor. 5:7 Since Christ is now our Passover and His blood remains upon me, tell me again why I need a special day?
1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

The old yeast, being man made doctrines without substance, corrupted the truth. The new is remembered without corruption. By celebrating Passover we are continuously reminded that the fulfillment of Christ, by His death, burial, and resurrection, was the plan before the beginning of time. The plan never gets old, and the reality is always renewed day after day, and year after year.

"And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;" (Ephesians 4:23)

The feasts are for our benefit and for a very good reason because God knows human nature much better than we do. He helps us with our faults and forgetfulness by these things that He has endorsed for us, causing His grace to be in the forefront of our minds at the appointed times. Through these things our thoughts are directed toward the fact that in everything He is Lord of Lords, the Almighty God of gods.

"Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults." (Psalm 19:12)

We are not good enough to remember as He would have us to. That's why
 
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john832

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1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

The old yeast, being man made doctrines without substance, corrupted the truth. The new is remembered without corruption. By celebrating Passover we are continuously reminded that the fulfillment of Christ, by His death, burial, and resurrection, was the plan before the beginning of time. The plan never gets old, and the reality is always renewed day after day, and year after year.

"And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;" (Ephesians 4:23)

The feasts are for our benefit and for a very good reason because God knows human nature much better than we do. He helps us with our faults and forgetfulness by these things that He has endorsed for us, causing His grace to be in the forefront of our minds at the appointed times. Through these things our thoughts are directed toward the fact that in everything He is Lord of Lords, the Almighty God of gods.

"Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults." (Psalm 19:12)
If I many add to this...

1Co 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
1Co 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
1Co 11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

What night was this? Passover. The Passover is taken once a year on the Passover. (The second Passover is available for those who through no fault of their own, miss the first one.)
 
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What night was this? Passover.
"And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:" (Luke 22:15)
It was the evening of the 13th which was the beginning of the 14th day. The Passover in Exodus was slaughtered on the 14th, and God passed over at midnight which was the first part of the 15th day. There is no night at the end of the day in Hebrew counting of days. Nightfall is always the start of a new day. LOL I know why you asked.

Manna fell in the morning of the 16th and meat was available at the night previous to the manna.
 
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I Cor. 5:7 Since Christ is now our Passover and His blood remains upon me, tell me again why I need a special day?
To remember what Jesus did. To celebrate what Jesus did.
 

KohenMatt

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1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

The old yeast, being man made doctrines without substance, corrupted the truth. The new is remembered without corruption. By celebrating Passover we are continuously reminded that the fulfillment of Christ, by His death, burial, and resurrection, was the plan before the beginning of time. The plan never gets old, and the reality is always renewed day after day, and year after year.

"And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;" (Ephesians 4:23)

The feasts are for our benefit and for a very good reason because God knows human nature much better than we do. He helps us with our faults and forgetfulness by these things that He has endorsed for us, causing His grace to be in the forefront of our minds at the appointed times. Through these things our thoughts are directed toward the fact that in everything He is Lord of Lords, the Almighty God of gods.

"Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults." (Psalm 19:12)

We are not good enough to remember as He would have us to. That's why
Bingo!

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At the Passover Feast, Jesus changed it to drinking of His blood and body. Which we now do as we take communion.
 
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At the Passover Feast, Jesus changed it to drinking of His blood and body. Which we now do as we take communion.
I don't think Jesus changed the Passover, but I also believe He gave instructions to remember Him as often as we drink of the wine and eat the bread at communion. Of course communion is closely related to the word communicate, so this is a very good thing as we remember His sacrifice for us and communicate the truth of it all.

The reason that I say Jesus didn't change anything is that the same day the Passover lamb was secured was the same day when Jesus came into Jerusalem on the 10th it was the last day of the week. Many call that day "Palm Sunday" which leaves a question in my mind, but I won't expound on that right now.

He was crucified the same day the lamb at Passover was killed. Either way, remembering is good, but it's a double celebration with both Passover and communion as we drink the wine that represents His blood and also remember His foreknowledge for us via Israel first. Spiritually we take the hyssop, which is a bitter and cleansing herb, dip it in the blood of the Lamb, smear the blood on our hearts door and God will see His own Son's blood (the Lamb of God) and pass over us without us suffering a devastating loss. Instead, God gave to us His first born.

"The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world." (John 1:29)
 

KohenMatt

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At the Passover Feast, Jesus changed it to drinking of His blood and body. Which we now do as we take communion.
Jesus added a new dimension to Passover, but He never changed anything that was pre-existing.
 

Joidevivre

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Why try to convince others to do as you do? As for me, I don't feel the need - you might. Paul in Romans said not to argue if one person thinks a day is more special than another day and one doesn't. Just be convinced in your own mind.

So, you go ahead and do the Passover - you are doing it to honor God. And I will not but will take communion instead. I, too, am honoring God. We both are living for God, are we not?

I have not missed out on one blessing from God that I think would have come my way. And maybe it is because I am under His grace. All the blessings I have ever received is from His mercies - not because I follow any laws.
 
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Why try to convince others to do as you do? As for me, I don't feel the need - you might. Paul in Romans said not to argue if one person thinks a day is more special than another day and one doesn't. Just be convinced in your own mind.

So, you go ahead and do the Passover - you are doing it to honor God. And I will not but will take communion instead. I, too, am honoring God. We both are living for God, are we not?

I have not missed out on one blessing from God that I think would have come my way. And maybe it is because I am under His grace. All the blessings I have ever received is from His mercies - not because I follow any laws.
I'm only stating what God has endorsed to His children. One thing that is also important to remember is that Jesus is the creator of all things including principalities. That is good that we abide by Paul's teaching not to argue. I agree with you on that one as you can see in my signature. (smile) The works of the law without faith mean nothing. I agree with you on that. There is something else that Jesus said however concerning the law which I think all of us should consider. He said "For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words? (John 5:46-47) We therefore should believe (via the Spirit of God) in all His Word as relevant for us today. Not just part of it.
 

john832

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At the Passover Feast, Jesus changed it to drinking of His blood and body. Which we now do as we take communion.
Christ never instituted "communion", He changed the symbols for the Passover and we take the Passover once a year.
 

john832

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Why try to convince others to do as you do? As for me, I don't feel the need - you might. Paul in Romans said not to argue if one person thinks a day is more special than another day and one doesn't. Just be convinced in your own mind.

So, you go ahead and do the Passover - you are doing it to honor God. And I will not but will take communion instead. I, too, am honoring God. We both are living for God, are we not?

I have not missed out on one blessing from God that I think would have come my way. And maybe it is because I am under His grace. All the blessings I have ever received is from His mercies - not because I follow any laws.
Problem with this is that God wants to be honored in the way that HE wants, not what we want...

Mar 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mar 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
Mar 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

What was God's Commandment?

1Co 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
1Co 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 1Co 11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.