What is first Knowledge or Wisdom?

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The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge that leads to wisdom.

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom for you are receiving knowledge.

I believe you only have wisdom about something after you get knowledge about something to understand it thoroughly.

When you have knowledge about something to understand it thoroughly then you have wisdom in that area.
 
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Kerry

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That's why it's important to grab the meaning of a word when it comes to the Bible. By meaning I mean interpretation, not necessarily translation. The word knowledge, for instance, is used to cover so many other words: wisdom, understanding, intimacy with God, the fear of God, and many, many, many more. (Check Pro. 2:1-6 and then on to the end of the chapter.) I say this all to say that when it talks about a lack of knowledge in the passage you mentioned, it's talking about a lack of revelation or understanding, not what we think of as knowledge.



There are many other passages where all these words are used interchangeably, but they all have their own distinct meanings. People don't perish just because they don't 'know' but often because they have received no revelation (which is a knowledge that is within you in such a way as to motivate and influence your life). God's people perish for lack of revelation, not lack of 'knowledge'. If you look at Pro. 29:18 in different translations, you will see that "Where there is no vision" basically means "where there is no revelation (inner illumination)". Revelation and wisdom are twins: the former gives you light (knowledge); the latter tells you what to do with it. Because of the primary importance of wisdom (first) and revelation (alongside it), Paul said in Eph. 1 that he prayed for God to give the Ephesians "a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him."

Because a Christian cannot ever know and grasp or understand God and His ways without "a spirit of wisdom and revelation" (Jesus told His followers this same thing several times), which is simply a manifestation of the Holy Spirit as merged with the human spirit (look at 1Jn. 2:20, 26-27 where this merge is called "the anointing that remains within you" rather than the Holy Spirit or the human spirit), there are many Christians who have lots of information but who don't know who God is. The s is small in the Eph. 1 passage because it isn't just the Holy Spirit nor can it be an evil spirit nor the human spirit alone which has no ability to understand God alone; same in 1Jn. 2 with 'the anointing'. Without this 'spirit' which mentors us in the knowledge of God and this 'anointing' which teaches us the things of God (same thing), no person, Christian or non, is able to grasp, understand, or really come to know God and the ways and things of God. Wisdom is the foundation of everything that God builds (and without it, Christians are a complete wreck) as it says in Proverbs, and it is always at the beginning of God's works as Proverbs also says.
Very good post, but lacking one thing. My people perish for the lack of knowledge. What did God send, He sent Christ and Him crucified and revealed to Paul that was the answer for mans problem which is sin. The only way to overcome our problem is the cross and not a 21 day fast nor by handing out water bottle nor by studying the purpose driven life. It is by the cross and nothing else. The cross is knowledge and it leads to wisdom as the Holy Spirit will only operate in the parameters of the cross and not what we do. It is not by works

It is not by power nor by might but by My Spirit saith the Lord and nothing else. Or can you find something else?
 
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TheClimaxWarrior

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The lack of knowledge after becoming wise in the Word of GOD can be attained at a higher level. It is wisdom that will lead you to study the Bible in order to distinguish the lack of knowledge. But we as humans will forever lack knowledge. It is a living fact. We can only hope wisdom will lead us to righteousness it is our sinful flesh that stops us from rising above it.
 
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Very good post, but lacking one thing. My people perish for the lack of knowledge. What did God send, He sent Christ and Him crucified and revealed to Paul that was the answer for mans problem which is sin. The only way to overcome our problem is the cross and not a 21 day fast nor by handing out water bottle nor by studying the purpose driven life. It is by the cross and nothing else. The cross is knowledge and it leads to wisdom as the Holy Spirit will only operate in the parameters of the cross and not what we do. It is not by works

It is not by power nor by might but by My Spirit saith the Lord and nothing else. Or can you find something else?
God has made spiritual things easy to understand though they may seem hard. He gives us parallels on the natural plane for spiritual things, because they are all tied together. Wisdom is about knowing how to proceed.

Wisdom gives direction (light) so that a person knows how to proceed: "Your Word is a lamp for my feet and a light for my path" (Ps. 105:119). Jesus is the Wisdom of God:

1. Isaiah prophesied about Him, "The people who walked in darkness have seen a great light; those who dwelt in the land of the shadow of death, upon them a light has dawned" (9:2), and

2. Zechariah prophesied about Him, "Through the tender mercy of our God... the Dayspring from on high has visited us, to give light to those who sit in darkness and the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace" (Lk. 1:78-79).

Isaiah said that wisdom primarily would rest on Jesus so that, depending on the fear of the Lord (which means relying on God to be His truth and not what He perceived or thought), He would do everything perfectly right and judge perfectly right between people. (Isa. 11:1-4). When Jesus read from a passage that had been read from many times before, He had this very effect on the people. (Lk. 4:18-22.) And Mark testifies that Jesus walked perfectly before God in wisdom: after He had preached and healed people, the people "were astonished beyond measure, saying, 'He has done all things well'" (Mk. 7:37). Wisdom being knowing how to proceed, the people were saying Jesus had shown thing wisdom in every single thing. Wisdom is the principle, primary, first, and main thing; therefore, salvation or the lack thereof is based on wisdom (not knowledge or understanding) or a lack thereof:

"Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock... But everyone who hears these saying of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand" (Matt. 7:24-27).
 
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The lack of knowledge after becoming wise in the Word of GOD can be attained at a higher level. It is wisdom that will lead you to study the Bible in order to distinguish the lack of knowledge. But we as humans will forever lack knowledge. It is a living fact. We can only hope wisdom will lead us to righteousness it is our sinful flesh that stops us from rising above it.
Yes, wisdom leads you towards God and everything that has to do with God. This is what it means that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. Wisdom, again, is knowing how to proceed.

In the natural, everyday you drive your car or do anything and you are careful not to get hurt or into some type of trouble, you are showing wisdom. When babies learn to put one foot in front of the other, they are showing wisdom. Wisdom is knowing how to proceed (and proceeding in the right way). People don't get around by hopping or walking backwards; we walk forward because it is the right way to proceed. It is very simple.

When there is just a little inflow of wisdom into any church or Christian gathering, the flow of things would immediately begin to change for the good or better. Without wisdom, for example, people have to pray (beg) for revival and 99% of the time don't get it; but with wisdom, people seek God and He tells them what to do to get revival, and sure enough it comes.
 

Atwood

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Read the first chapters of 1 Corinthians.
 
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Powemm

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God is wisdom and wisdom is Gods..just as God is knowledge and knowledge is Gods.He is the keeper and creator of both.. how can we separate anything that God is the keeper of?. who is to tell God which comes first ? He gives wisdom as He sees fit to whom He gives wisdom, and He gives knowledge as He sees fit to whom He gives knowledge... even the scales of that portion are determined and measured by Him.. it like the clay asking the potter... what are you doing? Who can understand His ways, who has seen the creation of either? This came while reading.. simply sharing