Old and New Laws

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For NT believers are any laws from Old Testament still valid in New Testament ?
For example

Forbidding to eat blood

[h=1]Genesis 9:4King James Version (KJV)[/h]4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
 
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Acts 15:20
But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
 

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For NT believers are any laws from Old Testament still valid in New Testament ?
For example

Forbidding to eat blood

Genesis 9:4King James Version (KJV)

4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
Yes.

All of them, in one way or another.
 
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In God's eyes there is only scripture that God breathed to man. It was man's idea to divide it.

Every scripture has both a literal and a spiritual part. Sometimes it is only parables, with the literal as an illustration of a spiritual only. We are to know that blood is the spiritual meaning of life in many ways, and we cannot take it from a living thing or eat it without affecting the spiritual meaning of it.

If we say that God breaths His truth in one scripture but there is no truth in another that God breathed, then we are distorting the word.
 
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For NT believers are any laws from Old Testament still valid in New Testament ?
For example

Forbidding to eat blood

Genesis 9:4King James Version (KJV)

4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

All of the ten commandments are contained in the NT.

There are so many verses that cover this, so I'll stick with the first two commandments. I'm sure it won't be difficult for others to look up other commandments that are contained in the OT and the NT.

Exodus 20:2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

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Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Matthew 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

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Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Exodus 20:6 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
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Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

1 Corinthians 10:7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.

1 Corinthians 10:14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.

1 Corinthians 12:2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.

2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Ephesians 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

Colossians 3:5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:

1 Thessalonians 1:9 For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;

Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
 
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For NT believers are any laws from Old Testament still valid in New Testament ?
For example

Forbidding to eat blood

Genesis 9:4King James Version (KJV)

4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
By turning it from being a law into a choice of your own will isn't a crime anymore. At the time God was trying the perfect His chosen people accordingly to what they had gotten themselves accustom to. When Jesus said that He cleanse it is that He has clean it from sin or from being a law and so that we will not be dirty from sin. But it is still unhealthy to drink blood, you might build up some physical characteristic of the animal that you drink it from.
 

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I mean i dont know anyone who straight up drinks blood, but Ive also heard that verse stretched to mean rare and med-rare steaks as well. So i guess it depends.
 

KohenMatt

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I mean i dont know anyone who straight up drinks blood, but Ive also heard that verse stretched to mean rare and med-rare steaks as well. So i guess it depends.
I order all my steaks with no pink in it, and we always soak our steaks in salt water for awhile prior to cooking to remove as much blood as we can from it. And if we buy our beef straight off the cow we look for ones that have been "kosher" killed, meaning the blood is drained out before processing.
 
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I mean i dont know anyone who straight up drinks blood, but Ive also heard that verse stretched to mean rare and med-rare steaks as well. So i guess it depends.
Black pudding is a type of blood sausage commonly eaten in Britain and Ireland. It is generally made from pork blood and a relatively high proportion of oatmeal. In the past it was occasionally flavoured with pennyroyal, differing from continental European versions in its relatively limited range of ingredients and reliance on oatmeal and barley instead of onions to absorb the blood.[SUP][1][/SUP] It can be eaten cold, as it is cooked in production, but is often grilled, fried, baked or boiled in its skin. Black pudding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Its not legal to add blood to frankfurters, but its legal if the meat contains blood.
If a manufacturer of franks needed a redder color, they have to use an artificial coloring agent( not blood).
Blood was banned in the late 60's early 70's.
Butchers would use beef blood to make chopped meat look redder and Italian pastry chefs used Pork blood to make a certain pastry( now they use chocolate for that particular pastry).

So, no added blood but only the blood that's in the meat.

MP doc, kosher meat contains more blood then aged meat. So kosher franks have more blood then non-kosher.
Meat contains blood. Franks are made from beef or pork or both( therefore they have blood in them).
Its the addition of liquid blood thats illegal.That would be added for color.Whatever makes you think Kosher= no blood in the meat? Does blessing beef, rid it of blood?

OK MP, Then tell me.
I have eaten a kosher steak befire, blood and all.
How come the blood was still in the steak?
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080414212527AA0mXRg

[h=1]Mad Cow Found in California … Because Cows Are Being Fed Blood, Animal Parts and Feces Mad Cow Found in California ... Because Cows Are Being Fed Blood, Animal Parts and Feces Washington's Blog[/h]
 
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By turning it from being a law into a choice of your own will isn't a crime anymore. At the time God was trying the perfect His chosen people accordingly to what they had gotten themselves accustom to. When Jesus said that He cleanse it is that He has clean it from sin or from being a law and so that we will not be dirty from sin. But it is still unhealthy to drink blood, you might build up some physical characteristic of the animal that you drink it from.
:confused: what about blood transfusion from a murderer blood will that turn the person into a murderer ?
 
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I mean i dont know anyone who straight up drinks blood, but Ive also heard that verse stretched to mean rare and med-rare steaks as well. So i guess it depends.
:confused::confused::confused::confused:
 
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To the NT friends does this apply in the NT Why or why not ?

Deuteronomy 22:6
If a bird's nest chance to be before thee in the way in any tree, or on the ground, whether they be young ones, or eggs, and the dam sitting upon the young, or upon the eggs, thou shalt not take the dam with the young:;)
 
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:confused: what about blood transfusion from a murderer blood will that turn the person into a murderer ?
I doesn't think so, but they'll might inherent some of their physical characteristics. But I had heard that when a man and his wife exchanges bodily fluids between each other for a long period of time, they'll start showing each others physical characteristics.


 
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I doesn't think so, but they'll might inherent some of their physical characteristics. But I had heard that when a man and his wife exchanges bodily fluids between each other for a long period of time, they'll start showing each others physical characteristics.


then animals behave like men when they eat man blood ?:confused:
 
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NT friends does this apply or repeated in the NT why or why not ?

Leviticus 10 King James Version (KJV)


10 And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered strange fire before the Lord, which he commanded them not.


2 And there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord.


3 Then Moses said unto Aaron, This is it that the Lord spake, saying, I will be sanctified in them that come nigh me, and before all the people I will be glorified. And Aaron held his peace.


4 And Moses called Mishael and Elzaphan, the sons of Uzziel the uncle of Aaron, and said unto them, Come near, carry your brethren from before the sanctuary out of the camp.


5 So they went near, and carried them in their coats out of the camp; as Moses had said.


6 And Moses said unto Aaron, and unto Eleazar and unto Ithamar, his sons, Uncover not your heads, neither rend your clothes; lest ye die, and lest wrath come upon all the people: but let your brethren, the whole house of Israel, bewail the burning which the Lord hath kindled.


7 And ye shall not go out from the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: for the anointing oil of the Lord is upon you. And they did according to the word of Moses.


8 And the Lord spake unto Aaron, saying,


9 Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations:
 
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I mean i dont know anyone who straight up drinks blood, but Ive also heard that verse stretched to mean rare and med-rare steaks as well. So i guess it depends.
Do you think this applies in the NT Why or Why not ?
[h=1]Leviticus 18:23King James Version (KJV)[/h]23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
 
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then animals behave like men when they eat man blood ?:confused:
I hope not, men are worst than animals. Animals kill for food, but men kill for sport. I was referring to physical appearances.
 

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Do you think this applies in the NT Why or Why not ?
Leviticus 18:23King James Version (KJV)

23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

SO now we are comparing bestiality to ordering rare steaks? Yeah this is bible discussion is a joke to most the other forum groups on here. There is literally no common sense.

And to be fair, I never wanted to have sex with animals even before I was saved. I didnt need some levitical law to tell me it was wrong.
 
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Deuteronomy 6:5 Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

and...

Luke 10:26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”
27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[c]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[d]”
28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”
 

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I mean i dont know anyone who straight up drinks blood, but Ive also heard that verse stretched to mean rare and med-rare steaks as well. So i guess it depends.
It's 'spiritual steak' Nautilus, spiritual steak.