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If you read through the entire Bible you will never be able find one single verse that even remotely suggests the Lord Jesus Christ will return in secret to take the believers with Him to Heaven, and then return again the third time. The New Testament clearly refers to the Return of the Lord Jesus Christ as His Second and Final Coming before the earth is destroyed by fire.
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Every eye will see Jesus Christ when He comes again When the Lord returns He will not only appear to His disciples but also to every person on earth. “Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see him, and they also who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.” (Rev. 1:7) There is no secret about the Lord’s Second Coming.
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Christ’s Second Coming will be like the lightning In the discourse on His Second Coming our Lord Jesus Christ describes it so graphically that no one can misinterpret it any other way: “For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.” (Mt. 24:27) Can anyone not see the lightning when it flashes across the sky? How then can anyone think the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ will be a secret one?
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the Secret Rapture teach there are two phases of the Lord’s Return. In the first phase Jesus will come secretly to take believers with Him to Heaven, and in the second phase, which is after the Great Tribulation, our Lord will return with the saints.
Although they or you do not like to admit it but they are suggesting that our Lord Jesus Christ will have a Third Coming. Where in the Bible does it say that? this theory of the Secret Rapture and the Third Coming is completely flawed.
Although they or you do not like to admit it but they are suggesting that our Lord Jesus Christ will have a Third Coming. Where in the Bible does it say that? this theory of the Secret Rapture and the Third Coming is completely flawed.
You know as well as I, that there are good scholars with different views on the rapture, so don't go pumping your view as if it is the supreme view.I at least acknowledge there are various end time views amongst good christians and respect them for it without arguing over the age old arguments.
I don't even care to challenge their views.
But you ask your tired pat questions just to turn and mock the view of others on this topic.It's so childish.
I don't even care to challenge their views.
But you ask your tired pat questions just to turn and mock the view of others on this topic.It's so childish.
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[h=1]1 John 2:27King James Version (KJV)[/h]27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
my fiend study God word [h=1]1 John 2:27King James Version (KJV)[/h]27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Yes.
However, understand that at the time that Jesus said "paradise", he was not referring to Heaven. There was no path to Heaven at that time because all men were seperated from God by the law of sin and death.
There was a place in Hell though called paradise. It was also called Abraham's Bosom. It was a place that was separate from Hell for the comfort of those that had been faithful. It was a temporary place until Jesus was able to enter Hell and defeat Satan and thus set those captives in Paradise free so they could no longer be separated from God and thus enter Heaven.
Heaven... a temporary place as well for man until Jesus establishes his kingdom upon the earth. Thus is it written that Jesus will return with the saints. All those that went to Heaven will return to the earth, the promised land.
However, understand that at the time that Jesus said "paradise", he was not referring to Heaven. There was no path to Heaven at that time because all men were seperated from God by the law of sin and death.
There was a place in Hell though called paradise. It was also called Abraham's Bosom. It was a place that was separate from Hell for the comfort of those that had been faithful. It was a temporary place until Jesus was able to enter Hell and defeat Satan and thus set those captives in Paradise free so they could no longer be separated from God and thus enter Heaven.
Heaven... a temporary place as well for man until Jesus establishes his kingdom upon the earth. Thus is it written that Jesus will return with the saints. All those that went to Heaven will return to the earth, the promised land.