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Yeah I accidentally deleted it lol. I was saying that "feminist" would not describe you. The way "feminist" is used today is way off the rocker. I don't think there is a word as "equality" wouldn't work either.
Gal 3:28 is the only way to describe it. It's not a specific word but the verse as a whole. It's the way God sees the Church as a whole. Each person individual but working together to spread the Gospel of Jesus.
Gal 3:28 is the only way to describe it. It's not a specific word but the verse as a whole. It's the way God sees the Church as a whole. Each person individual but working together to spread the Gospel of Jesus.
First off, there is a difference between feminism and misandry and people need to not equate them to one another. Feminism was a movement that allowed women an actual status in society whereas misandry is the total oppressive attitude toward men like thinking it is okay to hit them and not expect men to hit back. Sorry, but if a woman hits a man out of violence, she deserves to be smacked by a man because that is self defense. Also, women are not really the weaker sex. Have you seen Russian women? They can carry TREES on their shoulders for a living. I'm a gardener who loves to play in dirt. Men display their ignorance easily when they say that it is never okay for us to be masculine...but when we have feminine qualities as portrayed in the movement, it's the end of the world too.
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Feminism has the been the cause of many problems (too much to go into here) so it has obviously not been scriptural.
Equal pay is something women shouldn't even have had to fight for though. And women used to get the blame if they were raped; that was also a big issue back in the 70's. They are more likely to get justice now if they are attacked.
Equal pay is something women shouldn't even have had to fight for though. And women used to get the blame if they were raped; that was also a big issue back in the 70's. They are more likely to get justice now if they are attacked.
You statement is not about feminism, but is attempting to address those who are married.
Feminism has nothing to do with roles. So in your mind someone who is single, has no parents, and is alone and has to work is a feminist? Are you are talking about someone who has no biological family, is an orphan, or someone who is a widow, etc.? Do you call them feminists? If they are struggling to work and make ends meet by themselves with no support of a church or family? How about all the women in Africa or China or are supporting their families and their husbands have been killed by militia? Are they working because they are feminists?
I'm asking you again to step outside the box a little, past your cultural and biological only views of family. Again, these statements represent a limited view of scripture and again show that your church is limited in how they care for the widows and orphans and single women (maybe even of different races). And what do you do for the women who have no father or parents, or struggle? Are you caring for these women? That's why there are single REMNANT women who have been abandoned by their church, their fathers and husbands running around in America trying to make ends meet with no support from churches with this type of limited legalistic view that points to only a few scriptures. Clearly you leave out widows, those who have no husbands, the fatherless, single women, and those who the church has abandoned.
Jesus was point blank about this, when he was caring for the body of Christ about who is HIS family. When He was not paying attention to his 'biological' family members outside. He clearly said, "Who is my brother, my sister, my mother? It is the one who does the will of my FATHER". "Cultural and biological only family Christianity" is a milky almost watered down version of the gospel. In the end, "When I was hungry did you feed HIM?" I guess your church would not because you consider these women FEMINISTS.
Feminism has nothing to do with roles. So in your mind someone who is single, has no parents, and is alone and has to work is a feminist? Are you are talking about someone who has no biological family, is an orphan, or someone who is a widow, etc.? Do you call them feminists? If they are struggling to work and make ends meet by themselves with no support of a church or family? How about all the women in Africa or China or are supporting their families and their husbands have been killed by militia? Are they working because they are feminists?
I'm asking you again to step outside the box a little, past your cultural and biological only views of family. Again, these statements represent a limited view of scripture and again show that your church is limited in how they care for the widows and orphans and single women (maybe even of different races). And what do you do for the women who have no father or parents, or struggle? Are you caring for these women? That's why there are single REMNANT women who have been abandoned by their church, their fathers and husbands running around in America trying to make ends meet with no support from churches with this type of limited legalistic view that points to only a few scriptures. Clearly you leave out widows, those who have no husbands, the fatherless, single women, and those who the church has abandoned.
Jesus was point blank about this, when he was caring for the body of Christ about who is HIS family. When He was not paying attention to his 'biological' family members outside. He clearly said, "Who is my brother, my sister, my mother? It is the one who does the will of my FATHER". "Cultural and biological only family Christianity" is a milky almost watered down version of the gospel. In the end, "When I was hungry did you feed HIM?" I guess your church would not because you consider these women FEMINISTS.
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Since you say you are a Pastor and men hold women back from doing the work of God, you are in error and out of your role. The Bible does not support women Pastor, in fact they are not to teach men or have a authority over them. Plus in being married how can you allow your husband to be the leader of the house then him under your spiritual authority in church? This is the problem with feminism it is taken way out of order.
Since you say you are a Pastor and men hold women back from doing the work of God, you are in error and out of your role. The Bible does not support women Pastor, in fact they are not to teach men or have a authority over them. Plus in being married how can you allow your husband to be the leader of the house then him under your spiritual authority in church? This is the problem with feminism it is taken way out of order.
Well you keep attacking me about the type of ministry we have. You don't know what we do with our ministry neither know the vision that God has given for the ministry. Since you think I have only been involved with black American churches let me clear that view up. I have fellowship with churches that are all White, mixed and all Black and Hispanic, one of my wife's friends who follow our ministry is in a Asian church. So to try and accuse me of not being cultural is foolish when you don't know what you are talking about.
As for caring for widows, orphans, and single families we have all them in our church and we try to assist them in any way we can as a church. So again you have no clue so you need to stop with all the bashing about how limited I am as a Pastor and the views we have as a church. Your personal perception of me is does not make a difference. The question of the post still remains. Women are not equal to men and never will be so true feminism is finding and doing your role as a woman in the body of Christ.
As for caring for widows, orphans, and single families we have all them in our church and we try to assist them in any way we can as a church. So again you have no clue so you need to stop with all the bashing about how limited I am as a Pastor and the views we have as a church. Your personal perception of me is does not make a difference. The question of the post still remains. Women are not equal to men and never will be so true feminism is finding and doing your role as a woman in the body of Christ.
This is one of those topics where you have to find out how a person defines feminism and then go from there.
There is a group that is called "Feminists for Life" that opposes abortion.
There is NOW(National Organization of Women) that would certainly consider itself a feminists group that supports abortion on demand.
Some feminists wish to blur the lines and differences between men and women...masculinity and femininity.
Some feminists wish to demonize men instead of lifting them, appreciating them, and encouraging them to be better.
Both genders have their strengths and weaknesses. Where there appears to be a combination of hatred, anger, and jealousy towards masculinity and the way men are naturally designed, I'd say it's bad feminism.
There is a group that is called "Feminists for Life" that opposes abortion.
There is NOW(National Organization of Women) that would certainly consider itself a feminists group that supports abortion on demand.
Some feminists wish to blur the lines and differences between men and women...masculinity and femininity.
Some feminists wish to demonize men instead of lifting them, appreciating them, and encouraging them to be better.
Both genders have their strengths and weaknesses. Where there appears to be a combination of hatred, anger, and jealousy towards masculinity and the way men are naturally designed, I'd say it's bad feminism.
O Birther! Father- Mother of the CosmosFocus your light within us - make it useful.Create your reign of unity now-through our fiery hearts and willing handsHelp us love beyond our idealsand sprout acts of compassion for all creatures.Animate the earth within us: we thenfeel the Wisdom underneath supporting all.Untangle the knots withinso that we can mend our hearts' simple ties to each other.Don't let surface things delude us,But free us from what holds us back from our true purpose.Out of you, the astonishing fire,Returning light and sound to the cosmos.Amen.
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Great article. Read it and do click on the links: Feminism has removed all incentives to marriage | Observing the Decline
To answer this you first need to specify which form of 'feminism' you're talking about, and which interpretation of the bible you are going to take. Since you haven't specified these, I'll use the Oxford Dictionary to define what feminism means.
The Oxford Dictionary defines feminism as 'the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of equality of the sexes', and to understand what that statement means we have to look closely at the difiniendi within the phrase. A 'right' is formally 'a legally given entitlement', and the use of the word 'equality' in that context denotes the advocacy for equal legal entitlements between the sexes.
Taking the view that men and women are inherently just as valuable as one another in God's eyes, it should logically follow that equal legal entitlement for both sexes is part of a fair and Godly society. Does anybody here think that women should have the same legal entitlements as men? Then by dictionary definition you are essentially a person with 'feminist' viewpoints.
However, I should note that the word 'feminist', though it is the most commonly used phrase to describe a person who advocates for equal legal rights of the sexes, is not the only word that can be used to describe such a person. Another thing to be aware of is that the word feminism has collected an array of connotations over the years that go far beyond the simple premise of legal equality of the sexes, voyaging into misandry and misanthropy. Although the word 'communistic' can accurately describe a person with a view to social utopianism and egalitarian society, it comes with a heavy load of very negative inferences; 'Feminism' might be considered an equally disingenuous word used to describe an equal rights advocate nowadays, simply because of what it has become popularly synonymous with.
Feminism, in its beginnings, was not even called 'feminism'. The very first equal rights advocates were men and women, married and unmarried, advocating for equal pay for women, for a woman's right to divorce, to own property and such. The word feminism didn't arrive until the Suffragettes (not to be confused with the early Suffragists), gained publicity for becoming increasingly extremist. The word 'feminist' was actually a slur, coined my a misogynistic male reporter. The 'feminism' of the Suffragettes was widely viewed to be a great example of the ends not justifying the means, while the equal rights advocacy of the Suffragists was generally met with national applause.
Be careful to understand the difference between purely nonviolent equal rights advocacy, and militant feminism. Feminism in its purest sense, does not contradict Jesus' great love and appreciation of women, however since it has nowadays become a frighteningly aggressive, oppressive movement to both women and men, seen in divorce cases, the social pressure for a mother to have a career rather than family, it might be better to simply use the term 'equal rights advocacy' when talking about that very thing.
'Feminism' carries too much baggage.
The Oxford Dictionary defines feminism as 'the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of equality of the sexes', and to understand what that statement means we have to look closely at the difiniendi within the phrase. A 'right' is formally 'a legally given entitlement', and the use of the word 'equality' in that context denotes the advocacy for equal legal entitlements between the sexes.
Taking the view that men and women are inherently just as valuable as one another in God's eyes, it should logically follow that equal legal entitlement for both sexes is part of a fair and Godly society. Does anybody here think that women should have the same legal entitlements as men? Then by dictionary definition you are essentially a person with 'feminist' viewpoints.
However, I should note that the word 'feminist', though it is the most commonly used phrase to describe a person who advocates for equal legal rights of the sexes, is not the only word that can be used to describe such a person. Another thing to be aware of is that the word feminism has collected an array of connotations over the years that go far beyond the simple premise of legal equality of the sexes, voyaging into misandry and misanthropy. Although the word 'communistic' can accurately describe a person with a view to social utopianism and egalitarian society, it comes with a heavy load of very negative inferences; 'Feminism' might be considered an equally disingenuous word used to describe an equal rights advocate nowadays, simply because of what it has become popularly synonymous with.
Feminism, in its beginnings, was not even called 'feminism'. The very first equal rights advocates were men and women, married and unmarried, advocating for equal pay for women, for a woman's right to divorce, to own property and such. The word feminism didn't arrive until the Suffragettes (not to be confused with the early Suffragists), gained publicity for becoming increasingly extremist. The word 'feminist' was actually a slur, coined my a misogynistic male reporter. The 'feminism' of the Suffragettes was widely viewed to be a great example of the ends not justifying the means, while the equal rights advocacy of the Suffragists was generally met with national applause.
Be careful to understand the difference between purely nonviolent equal rights advocacy, and militant feminism. Feminism in its purest sense, does not contradict Jesus' great love and appreciation of women, however since it has nowadays become a frighteningly aggressive, oppressive movement to both women and men, seen in divorce cases, the social pressure for a mother to have a career rather than family, it might be better to simply use the term 'equal rights advocacy' when talking about that very thing.
'Feminism' carries too much baggage.
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She is an atheist and a published author of erotica. She might even be a liberal for all I know sans-feminism. But the points made in this video are valid and that's why I shared it.
Certainly do NOT look to her for spiritual advice! But if you want to know more about feminism, that's a subject she does know something about.
Here's a video of Ben Shapiro speaking on the subject. He's an orthodox Jew:
[video=youtube_share;yNMiTxso4Q0]http://youtu.be/yNMiTxso4Q0[/video]
Certainly do NOT look to her for spiritual advice! But if you want to know more about feminism, that's a subject she does know something about.
Here's a video of Ben Shapiro speaking on the subject. He's an orthodox Jew:
[video=youtube_share;yNMiTxso4Q0]http://youtu.be/yNMiTxso4Q0[/video]
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The Vanishing Male Worker: How America Fell Behind: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/12/u...-america-fell-behind.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=0