my study bible and evolution

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kaitlyn76

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Hi allI recently bought a new bible - teen life applications study bible. As I flipped through the first few pages of genesis they had this box that said 'ultimate issues the origin of humanity' it then went on to talk about evolution and said this


"The christian, then turns to the supernatural: God did it. It is a simple but utterly profound rationale. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and that sums it up. It does not rule out some kind of God directed evolution, neither does it give it any support"


I'm really confused, is this bad, is this true??
 
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kaitlyn76 said:
Hi allI recently bought a new bible - teen life applications study bible. As I flipped through the first few pages of genesis they had this box that said 'ultimate issues the origin of humanity' it then went on to talk about evolution and said this


"The christian, then turns to the supernatural: God did it. It is a simple but utterly profound rationale. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and that sums it up. It does not rule out some kind of God directed evolution, neither does it give it any support"


I'm really confused, is this bad, is this true??
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I believe God didn't use evolution to bring about anything and that this common belief is a lie. Sadly many Christians compromise in this arena. The Bible is God's Word, it shouldn't be informed by outside influences. Instead, the Bible should inform everything. It should be our lense of absolute truth, the yardstick by which we measure anything and everything. The Bible can be studied for lifetimes but its message must also be able to be understood by the everyman (or everywoman). A straight-forward reading of God's Word, taking into account the different genres that make up the Bible, is the best approach. Let the Holy Spirit do the talking. Personally, I've found the biblical creation understanding to be most biblically-sound.
 
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kaitlyn76 said:
Hi allI recently bought a new bible - teen life applications study bible. As I flipped through the first few pages of genesis they had this box that said 'ultimate issues the origin of humanity' it then went on to talk about evolution and said this


"The christian, then turns to the supernatural: God did it. It is a simple but utterly profound rationale. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and that sums it up. It does not rule out some kind of God directed evolution, neither does it give it any support"


I'm really confused, is this bad, is this true??
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It sounds like someone is trying to push theistic evolution, the idea that God used evolution to create. It's not true. Moses said, 'in six days God created the heavens and the earth'. The context of that statement was literal 24 hour days.
 
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It not bad it just said God created everything but could have set things to evolve on their own. A good example is a cacoon or lava that evolve into a butterfly. Evolve take place and it still happing now.
 
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Butch5 said:
It sounds like someone is trying to push theistic evolution, the idea that God used evolution to create. It's not true. Moses said, 'in six days God created the heavens and the earth. The context of that statement was literal 24 hour days.
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I don't believe nor preach a theistic Evolution as it is false, but how did the Earth become void and full of darkness and the language of the manuscripts leans to the allowance of the sun to shine rather than being created and the moon also. I meant everything else God created was Good so why wasn't the Earth Good. Yes I suspect that there is a gap, I don't think that God would create something that was void and full of darkness as He is light.
 
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Do you think I should send this bible back? it was like 38 dollars
 
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I don't believe nor preach a theistic Evolution as it is false, but how did the Earth become void and full of darkness and the language of the manuscripts leans to the allowance of the sun to shine rather than being created and the moon also. I meant everything else God created was Good so why wasn't the Earth Good. Yes I suspect that there is a gap, I don't think that God would create something that was void and full of darkness as He is light.
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I see shadows in my home. We don't wish to so light it up that there are no shadows due to the lack of sufficient light. Is the darkness a worm crawling in the earth "see's an evil thing? Shadows are innocent. They actually help us identify from where light is coming. A baby in a womb is in darkness. It that darkness evil? I say that is very natural, the way God meant it to be.

The beginning of a planet in darkness actually appears to me to be pure logic. Man insists ann planets start as spin-offs from stars. That explanation makes human "sense", but doesn't conclusively prove that is how it happened.

I spend a lot less faith believing the report of God's word than to gulp in all the nonsense a godless society presents as an alternative to truth. I am free to consider far more current issues that actually make a difference in life today.

Put that study guide in a trash can. Meanwhile we have offered some really good websites to get a real science education that agrees with God's truth. Institute for Creation Research.org has real science topics and excellent study guides (books, free articles, DVDs, their monthly amazing free "Acts & Facts magazine, etc.) that are not based up front with Bible, but they can link the truth of God to scientific conclusions of authentic research. Students must satisfy their teachers and get through their requirements, but should not become slaves to their ignorance. Complete your education by your best energy, meaning don't leave it all to those teachers you are required to listen to. Atheists will put on pressure to only consider their concepts. A smart student will deal with all sides of issues.
 
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Nicee said:
It not bad it just said God created everything but could have set things to evolve on their own. A good example is a cacoon or lava that evolve into a butterfly. Evolve take place and it still happing now.
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That's not evolution.
 
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Do you think I should send this bible back? it was like 38 dollars
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It's really up to you. How long ago did you purchase the study Bible? Do you have the receipt still? Is it still in great condition? Do you mind owning a Bible with commentary you don't fully agree with? The latter question is most important. I own some books that I don't agree with. They lend me a different perspective and make me think more deeply about what I truly believe and why I believe these things. It's up to you.
 
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I see shadows in my home. We don't wish to so light it up that there are no shadows due to the lack of sufficient light. Is the darkness a worm crawling in the earth "see's an evil thing? Shadows are innocent. They actually help us identify from where light is coming. A baby in a womb is in darkness. It that darkness evil? I say that is very natural, the way God meant it to be.

The beginning of a planet in darkness actually appears to me to be pure logic. Man insists ann planets start as spin-offs from stars. That explanation makes human "sense", but doesn't conclusively prove that is how it happened.

I spend a lot less faith believing the report of God's word than to gulp in all the nonsense a godless society presents as an alternative to truth. I am free to consider far more current issues that actually make a difference in life today.

Put that study guide in a trash can. Meanwhile we have offered some really good websites to get a real science education that agrees with God's truth. Institute for Creation Research.org has real science topics and excellent study guides (books, free articles, DVDs, their monthly amazing free "Acts & Facts magazine, etc.) that are not based up front with Bible, but they can link the truth of God to scientific conclusions of authentic research. Students must satisfy their teachers and get through their requirements, but should not become slaves to their ignorance. Complete your education by your best energy, meaning don't leave it all to those teachers you are required to listen to. Atheists will put on pressure to only consider their concepts. A smart student will deal with all sides of issues.
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ICR is very good but Creation Ministries International (CMI) and Answers In Genesis (AiG) have even more helpful resources. :)
 
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kaitlyn76 said:
Do you think I should send this bible back? it was like 38 dollars
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Probably not. But keep your antennae up for further 'soft stances'. BTW good catch on the evolution mush.
Remember, the notes are not inspired in any study bible and should always be checked by the Scriptures.
 
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Do you think I should send this bible back? it was like 38 dollars
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God Bless you, Kaitlyn. Thank you for sharing this. Is that the name of this particular bible - 'the teen's life applications bible'? I'd like to know to warn others of that.

I'd say, for sure - you should definitely send it back and ask for your refund - but call them first to be sure that they'll refund what you've paid and be sure to tell them why.

Sneaky buzzards - how dare they do this to teens. I know a lot of parents with teens that would be heart-broken to know this.

Thank you for being so caring to protect Truth! Jesus told Pilate, the reason He was born and the reason that He came, was to bear witness to The Truth. That blew me away when I first read that and felt the responsibility that we now have to protect His reason and His Name - The Truth.

Many blessings to you & yours!
 
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kaitlyn76 said:
Do you think I should send this bible back? it was like 38 dollars
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Yes, return it. It is of the "flesh", replacing the simple truth of God with man's faulty wisdom. Such comments you reported have no place in healthy Bible study. You can always reconsider later. Meanwhile, read the Bible like a novel, all the way through. Even the long odd names in it are there for a reason. Some of that makes sense the next time you read through it. If you will read it you will grow from it so that you really won't need a study guide. The better use of good guides is to learn ancient cultures and history so the harder Bible narratives are more easily understood. The Bible needs no outside help, but you need to find a version that speaks your vocabulary. Lots of folks on CCHat have those figured out quite well.
 
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Evolution is just a theory, no conclusive evidence evolution happened in the way athiest want it to happen, ie to blow Genesis out of the water by proving humans evolved from whatever. Many Christians are still holding on to things to such as evolution and have not yet learned the truth and still cling to evolution, just let that all go and read what Genesis says and take it as it is meant to be, literal completed in real days, not metaphorical day lasting a billion years.
 
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Maybe some can read God's Word like a novel but I personally don't recommend that approach. It's so easy to get stuck in the Books of Law, after reading Genesis. Maybe a better approach would be to read a few OT books, then a NT book, then a few more OT books and so on. But really, I guess the best advice is to the let the Holy Spirit lead your reading of God's Word. It's a book unlike any other.
 
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God Bless you, Kaitlyn. Thank you for sharing this. Is that the name of this particular bible - 'the teen's life applications bible'? I'd like to know to warn others of that.

I'd say, for sure - you should definitely send it back and ask for your refund - but call them first to be sure that they'll refund what you've paid and be sure to tell them why.

Sneaky buzzards - how dare they do this to teens. I know a lot of parents with teens that would be heart-broken to know this.

Thank you for being so caring to protect Truth! Jesus told Pilate, the reason He was born and the reason that He came, was to bear witness to The Truth. That blew me away when I first read that and felt the responsibility that we now have to protect His reason and His Name - The Truth.

Many blessings to you & yours!
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We went through this with our children, and it has come around again with our grandchildren. Not only do some study guides distract youth from truth, but also most of their public school teachers who are forced to make sure state standards are met. They themselves are victims of long standing deception. College instructors are far more insidious, holding students hostage over money investments and future employment choices. They use curriculum materials written by secular authors who believe in evolution, opposing Bible belief, while ridiculing challenges by Christians in the classrooms. No teacher should get away with oppression, but that is very common in American classrooms from first grade through graduate school. Believing in evolution and worse, chance origins of life and even atoms, shames good science. But, their living depends on keeping that ball rolling, their books selling, teaching careers solid until retiring.
 
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I done a little typo it's called 'teen life application study bible' I was really skeptical about buying this even though it had really good reviews but I guess now I know why
 
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kaitlyn76 said:
Do you think I should send this bible back? it was like 38 dollars
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Scrap my earlier advice about not necessarily looking for a refund. I didn't realise you were a young teenager. There's plenty of time for serious study of contrary commentaries and thinking critically about different perspectives when you're older and more mature in your faith. I'm not saying you should abandon your discerning ways, they're good. You seem to have a good head on your shoulders but I'd aim for a study Bible with a more biblical commentary. I can't think of any off the bat but I think Henry M. Morris has a teen Study Bible with a biblical creation understanding. But that may only be available in the King James Version. Hopefully others here can help.
 
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kaitlyn76 said:
Hi allI recently bought a new bible - teen life applications study bible. As I flipped through the first few pages of genesis they had this box that said 'ultimate issues the origin of humanity' it then went on to talk about evolution and said this


"The christian, then turns to the supernatural: God did it. It is a simple but utterly profound rationale. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and that sums it up. It does not rule out some kind of God directed evolution, neither does it give it any support"


I'm really confused, is this bad, is this true??
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Remember your study bible has notes - notes are not God's word. If it's Zondevan - they are just in it for the money

Sis - i have been working in the fields of Science for almost a decade - Genesis is historical fact - check out Answers in Genesis great resources
 
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