What Part of the Law is That?

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Seeing as not having money is the direct reason that most in the world are starving, homeless or sickly, what law of God commands us to use it?
 

Billyd

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Seeing as not having money is the direct reason that most in the world are starving, homeless or sickly, what law of God commands us to use it?
Don't understand you question, please explain.
 
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Don't understand you question, please explain.
Why use it? Why are we bound to use it? Is it a law? If so from who, God or man? Why can't OUR planet be free for all to enjoy? Just simple child-like questions.
 

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In the past generally God blesses those countries who bless Him, and those countries who persist in superstition, false religions and the persecution of those who believe end up in squalor.
So our money is best used to support missionary endeavor..not social programs to 3rd world countries.
 
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greed and people don't want to share. people hoard things they don't need because they don't trust in God to provide. others are lazy and expect others to serve them.
 

KohenMatt

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Why use it? Why are we bound to use it? Is it a law? If so from who, God or man? Why can't OUR planet be free for all to enjoy? Just simple child-like questions.
Because creation is now broken and mankind is broken. The standards you mentioned might have been possible in the Garden, but we messed that up and now have to live in a broken world.
 
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Ariel82

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its not a sin to use money. Jesus used money (He had Peter catch a fish to get a gold coin to pay the priest and he told the disciple before his cruxification to carry money pouches and buy a sword).
 
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[h=1]Ecclesiastes 10:19King James Version (KJV)[/h]19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.
 
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Genesis 24 King James Version (KJV)


1 And Abraham was old, and well stricken in age: and the Lord had blessed Abraham in all things
 
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[h=1]Proverbs 8:12-18King James Version (KJV)[/h]12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
13 The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.
 
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Why use it? Why are we bound to use it? Is it a law? If so from who, God or man? Why can't OUR planet be free for all to enjoy? Just simple child-like questions.
Do you use money ? Why ?
 

JimmieD

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Why use it? Why are we bound to use it?
You don't have to. You just have to convince people to trade with you using something else.

Why can't OUR planet be free for all to enjoy?
Because resources are scarce and things are costly to make, grow, produce, mine, etc..

Why should the miner dig in a hole for 12 hours a day and just give you what he worked to obtain? How about you come do it? Why should the farmer do all the work growing food only to give it to you for nothing? Why don't you pitch in?

These are simple examples. Goods and services are not free becuase they are not free to produce and require sweat, work, patience, intellligence, skills, and a host of other things that are costly to the individual who produces them. Why is it fair for the person who pays the price to produce a good or service just give it to someone who didn't help produce it?
 
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In the past generally God blesses those countries who bless Him, and those countries who persist in superstition, false religions and the persecution of those who believe end up in squalor.
So our money is best used to support missionary endeavor..not social programs to 3rd world countries.
"3rd world countries"? This isn't child-like at all. We all live in one world. What you are talking about only exists when we use money. So again I ask, why use it? FREE FOR ALL including you is a whole lot better isn't it? At least everyone will have a home food and clothes in their backs with ample acces to the internet to discuss whatever else they choose or deem important after that.
 
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Do you use money ? Why ?
Yes I use money. Why? Because as a priest of God Almighty I profane His sabbath, and yet remain blameless. In other words it is not my time to die yet, so I use it to wake as many up as possible to the truth before I am shut off or killed.

I would rather not use it at all but with the body, I too am a servant of the law of sin, so I use it as I deem important as to not offend the heathen.
 

Billyd

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Why use it? Why are we bound to use it? Is it a law? If so from who, God or man? Why can't OUR planet be free for all to enjoy? Just simple child-like questions.
When I was a child, money was a rare thing around my community. It was usually a median that we received for the crops at the end of the year, and used to buy gasoline and fertilizer for the next year, and the things necessary to keep the farm running. My mother bought the groceries that we didn't grow by trading eggs with the grocery store. He traded the eggs with a supplier to restock the store. Every year the excess from the garden was given to some families close by who didn't have enough to eat. In short we used money, barter, and charity to provide for our family and the community. Today the source of money has changed, barter is rare, and charity lives on.

Now, to answer your last question. The farm I lived on growing up produced enough food to feed about 20 people. Today it produces enough to feed 20,000. If it were not for the thing you call money, there would be a lot more hungry people in this world.

Why use it? Compare the US to much of Africa.
Are we bound to use it? No
Is it the law? No The US Monetary System provides a standard currency system to allow for easier trade, but you are free to make your own as long as it is not passed as currency of the US Monetary System.
The scriptures are not about your type of money, they address only how you spend it.

Finally, why don't you enjoy it now? Psalms 118:24 This is the day which God hath made; We will rejoice and be glad in it.
 
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Even if you gave the poor and starving money their governments would take it away from them, so there's the other part of that problem
 

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Even if we got rid of money people will still hoard and starve because of a greedy spirit and/or a fear of lack from a distrust that God can and will provide. Some will share, some will lay up for themselves.
 

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"3rd world countries"? This isn't child-like at all. We all live in one world. What you are talking about only exists when we use money. So again I ask, why use it? FREE FOR ALL including you is a whole lot better isn't it? At least everyone will have a home food and clothes in their backs with ample acces to the internet to discuss whatever else they choose or deem important after that.
In the past generally God blesses those countries who bless Him, and those countries who persist in superstition, false religions and the persecution of those who believe end up in squalor.
So our money is best used to support missionary endeavor..not social programs to 3rd world countries.
 
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If we had no money, no one will starve or be homeless. No one would steal if all things were free. Money is a lifeless piece of paper. Why make it an idol any longer?
 
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Even if we got rid of money people will still hoard and starve because of a greedy spirit and/or a fear of lack from a distrust that God can and will provide. Some will share, some will lay up for themselves.
This is not true. There is enough for all. Pay attention next time you drive past a car dealership or visit a grocery store or a phone shop.