Why has God allow the devil to continue ?

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ELECT

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No I'm saying God created the Devil to present choice. The bible says how can a weak man enter a strong mans house unless he lets him. The devil was tempting Jesus because God allowed him to.
i am talking about up in heaven before sin

How did the devil know evil did he eat out of a tree up there ?

Did God know what was evil before sin ?
 
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Powemm

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Satan is being used by God ... he cant do "anything" without Gods permission.. he reminds me of a sheep dog... the sheep dog watches the flock.. when a stray lamb runs away from the flock, what's the job of the sheep dog, whats a sheep dogs nature? He chases, barks, growls and nips at the lambs heels to return...

Today an image of a bullet came...i know nothing about bullets.. dont even care about bullets... anyway I saw hurt and pain , and was shown that hurt and pain are the primers in a bullet.. the key ingredient to thrust or propel us towards god.. (the sheep dog nips hard enough the lamb will return)
Satan is actually working for god in his nature.. sometimes the pain has to increase for us to turn around towards god from our sin..thisnisnjust how god made it simple for me to understand..
 
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cjordan38

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God sees all, hears all, and knows all. The Word says where Good is Evil surly is. The devil didn't know evil he only did what he was designed for. The heaven scene was to show that when you don't have your mind on God at all times Sin can enter in. God already knew sin was present. The devil never ate from the tree. When you live with the teacher you learn a lot.
 
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God sees all, hears all, and knows all. The Word says where Good is Evil surly is. The devil didn't know evil he only did what he was designed for. The heaven scene was to show that when you don't have your mind on God at all times Sin can enter in. God already knew sin was present. The devil never ate from the tree. When you live with the teacher you learn a lot.
What do you me the devil was design for ? What , God design him to sin :confused:
 

Ella85

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God created all things and God controls all things.
The Lord has a purpose and a plan. Every story written is an example of how we should or shouldn't be living our lives, things that have happened and things that will happen.

Everything that has been created is for us to realize as human beings, with choice and freedom, to choose what side we want to be on.
Satan can only tempt us. He does not come to you with his horns and a red face, he comes disguised as everything you have ever wanted.
There is deeper meaning as to why the Lord has made the world this way, and we will not know entirely until we reach heaven.
The only thing I know is, Satan has no power over me. I am a child of God and I will follow Christ until the end of my time here on earth.
Satan is nothing compared to the mighty power and glory of the Lord. It's up to us to learn the truth and stick to it.
Cleansed from all sin and prepared for the everlasting life in heaven where nothing or no one is to have any spot, wrinkle or blemish.


Ephesians 5:1-33
Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children. And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God. But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving. For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.
 
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The Bible’s Viewpoint
Who Is Satan? Is He Real?


SOME modern scholars say that Satan is not a real person. They claim that he was merely created in the imagination of men. This controversy is nothing new. “The Devil’s deepest wile,” wrote 19th-century poet Charles-Pierre Baudelaire, “is to persuade us that he does not exist.”


Is Satan a real person? If so, where did he come from? Is he the unseen power behind the problems plaguing our world? How can you avoid his evil influence?


Is Satan the unseen power behind the problems plaguing our world?
What the Bible Says
The Bible describes Satan as a real person who exists in the invisible spirit realm. (Job 1:6) It tells us about his vicious and ruthless qualities as well as his evil actions. (Job 1:13-19; 2:7, 8; 2 Timothy 2:26) It even records conversations that Satan had with God and with Jesus.—Job 1:7-12; Matthew 4:1-11.


Where did such an evil being come from? Long before man existed, God created his “firstborn” Son, who eventually came to be known as Jesus. (Colossians 1:15) In time, other “sons of God,” called angels, were created. (Job 38:4-7) All were perfect and righteous. However, one of those angels would become Satan.


Satan was not his given name at the time of his creation. It is a descriptive name, which means “Adversary; Enemy; Accuser.” He came to be called Satan because he chose a life course in opposition to God.


Feelings of pride and rivalry toward God grew within this spirit creature. He wanted others to worship him. When God’s firstborn Son, Jesus, was on the earth, Satan even attempted to get Jesus to “do an act of worship” to him.—Matthew 4:9.


Satan “did not stand fast in the truth.” (John 8:44) He implied that God was a liar, when, in fact, he was the liar. He told Eve that she could be like God, whereas he wanted to be like God. And through his deceitful ways, he achieved his selfish desire. To Eve, he made himself higher than God. By obeying Satan, Eve accepted Satan as her god.—Genesis 3:1-7.


By fomenting rebellion, this once trusted angel made himself Satan—an adversary and enemy of God and man. The designation “Devil,” which means “Slanderer,” was also added to this wicked one’s description. This leader of sin eventually influenced other angels to disobey God and join his rebellion. (Genesis 6:1, 2; 1 Peter 3:19, 20) These angels did not make mankind’s situation better. Because of their imitating Satan’s selfish ways, “the earth became filled with violence.”—Genesis 6:11; Matthew 12:24.
 
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The Bible’s Viewpoint
Who Is Satan? Is He Real?


SOME modern scholars say that Satan is not a real person. They claim that he was merely created in the imagination of men. This controversy is nothing new. “The Devil’s deepest wile,” wrote 19th-century poet Charles-Pierre Baudelaire, “is to persuade us that he does not exist.”


Is Satan a real person? If so, where did he come from? Is he the unseen power behind the problems plaguing our world? How can you avoid his evil influence?


Is Satan the unseen power behind the problems plaguing our world?
What the Bible Says
The Bible describes Satan as a real person who exists in the invisible spirit realm. (Job 1:6) It tells us about his vicious and ruthless qualities as well as his evil actions. (Job 1:13-19; 2:7, 8; 2 Timothy 2:26) It even records conversations that Satan had with God and with Jesus.—Job 1:7-12; Matthew 4:1-11.


Where did such an evil being come from? Long before man existed, God created his “firstborn” Son, who eventually came to be known as Jesus. (Colossians 1:15) In time, other “sons of God,” called angels, were created. (Job 38:4-7) All were perfect and righteous. However, one of those angels would become Satan.


Satan was not his given name at the time of his creation. It is a descriptive name, which means “Adversary; Enemy; Accuser.” He came to be called Satan because he chose a life course in opposition to God.


Feelings of pride and rivalry toward God grew within this spirit creature. He wanted others to worship him. When God’s firstborn Son, Jesus, was on the earth, Satan even attempted to get Jesus to “do an act of worship” to him.—Matthew 4:9.


Satan “did not stand fast in the truth.” (John 8:44) He implied that God was a liar, when, in fact, he was the liar. He told Eve that she could be like God, whereas he wanted to be like God. And through his deceitful ways, he achieved his selfish desire. To Eve, he made himself higher than God. By obeying Satan, Eve accepted Satan as her god.—Genesis 3:1-7.


By fomenting rebellion, this once trusted angel made himself Satan—an adversary and enemy of God and man. The designation “Devil,” which means “Slanderer,” was also added to this wicked one’s description. This leader of sin eventually influenced other angels to disobey God and join his rebellion. (Genesis 6:1, 2; 1 Peter 3:19, 20) These angels did not make mankind’s situation better. Because of their imitating Satan’s selfish ways, “the earth became filled with violence.”—Genesis 6:11; Matthew 12:24.

When was satan cast out heaven ?

Does he still have access to heaven ? Why or why not
 
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ELECT

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God created all things and God controls all things.
The Lord has a purpose and a plan. Every story written is an example of how we should or shouldn't be living our lives, things that have happened and things that will happen.

Everything that has been created is for us to realize as human beings, with choice and freedom, to choose what side we want to be on.
Satan can only tempt us. He does not come to you with his horns and a red face, he comes disguised as everything you have ever wanted.
There is deeper meaning as to why the Lord has made the world this way, and we will not know entirely until we reach heaven.
The only thing I know is, Satan has no power over me. I am a child of God and I will follow Christ until the end of my time here on earth.
Satan is nothing compared to the mighty power and glory of the Lord. It's up to us to learn the truth and stick to it.
Cleansed from all sin and prepared for the everlasting life in heaven where nothing or no one is to have any spot, wrinkle or blemish.


Ephesians 5:1-33
Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children. And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God. But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving. For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.
Why do you thinlk satan would try to fight God in armageddon even though he knows he will still lost
 

Ella85

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Why do you thinlk satan would try to fight God in armageddon even though he knows he will still lost
Satan will try one last time to take the throne....

why do people still fight even though they know they are going against a bigger man? Because they think they know better. In their minds they think they can overcome the enemy, although in reality they have no chance.
 
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Satan will try one last time to take the throne....

why do people still fight even though they know they are going against a bigger man? Because they think they know better. In their minds they think they can overcome the enemy, although in reality they have no chance.
No doubt and he has continually attempted to usurp the throne of the Son and at the end of the day, as you have said will try yet again......he is deceived and will realize that his time is short when he is finally cast out of heaven...it is then that there will be great destruction and misery directed at Israel and the Saints of God.........The DESTROYER will destroy until he is brought low by God.....!
 
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Angelique

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Satan hates God. He hates us because he knows how much God loves us. He knows the eternal purpose God has for us. He will do anything to harm God and keep people out of the kingdom. Hes a thief..a murderer and a liar. He can be nothing more than he is. He will demonstrate his nature until the very end and so will God. God will be our Savior, our peace, our joy, our love and life. God can exhibit nothing but light and victory, simply because thats what He is and always will be for eternity.

Blessed be the name of the Lord
 
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God created all things and God controls all things.
The Lord has a purpose and a plan. Every story written is an example of how we should or shouldn't be living our lives, things that have happened and things that will happen.

Everything that has been created is for us to realize as human beings, with choice and freedom, to choose what side we want to be on.
Satan can only tempt us. He does not come to you with his horns and a red face, he comes disguised as everything you have ever wanted.
There is deeper meaning as to why the Lord has made the world this way, and we will not know entirely until we reach heaven.
The only thing I know is, Satan has no power over me. I am a child of God and I will follow Christ until the end of my time here on earth.
Satan is nothing compared to the mighty power and glory of the Lord. It's up to us to learn the truth and stick to it.
Cleansed from all sin and prepared for the everlasting life in heaven where nothing or no one is to have any spot, wrinkle or blemish.


Ephesians 5:1-33
Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children. And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God. But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving. For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.
Nice...and well written.... :)
 
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Satan hates God. He hates us because he knows how much God loves us. He knows the eternal purpose God has for us. He will do anything to harm God and keep people out of the kingdom. Hes a thief..a murderer and a liar. He can be nothing more than he is. He will demonstrate his nature until the very end and so will God. God will be our Savior, our peace, our joy, our love and life. God can exhibit nothing but light and victory, simply because thats what He is and always will be for eternity.

Blessed be the name of the Lord
This too is well written and full of truth! AMEN
 
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Faith pleases GOD
I believe that God could take Satan out anytime he chose and stop all this madness
when satan sin in heaven first why did God allow him in the garden of eden and not prevent him from going there

Why has God allow the devil to continue ? any thoughts
IMO
its about choice.will we believe what GOD said or do what we want to do(fleshy)..Faith pleases GOD

Faith needs to be tested
worship GOD in spirit and truth

WE were made perfect in the spirit and now we are a new creation and no longer a sinner that enjoys sin,but in the mind paul said we need to renew our minds.
 
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Faith pleases GODIMO
its about choice.will we believe what GOD said or do what we want to do(fleshy)..Faith pleases GOD

Faith needs to be tested
worship GOD in spirit and truth

WE were made perfect in the spirit and now we are a new creation and no longer a sinner that enjoys sin,but in the mind paul said we need to renew our minds.
What is sin against the body , soul , spirit ?

Can one sin against the body but not spirit vice se versa ?