Why do Muslims and Jews reject the new testament? Christianity extends from an Arab religion...I heard this guy give reference to Jesus as the "American Jesus". I found that interesting that us foreigners( anyone outside Arab countries) adopted this new testament religion but they reject it... how did this happen...?
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Jews reject the NT because they are still waiting for their Messiah to come.They do not believe Jesus is their Messiah.Muslims reject the NT because they believe Muhammad spoke for Allah where as Christians believe Jesus is the only way to God.And they believe Jesus was Gods son.Pretty much it in a nutshell.
C
Why do you say that? The Quran tells them to refer to the OT and NT when in doubt. Some verses
"People of the Book, you do not stand on anything, until you perform the Torah and the Gospel [Injil], and what was sent down to you from your Lord." ... S. 5:68
[Say (O Muhammad SAW)] "Shall I seek a judge other than Allah while it is He Who has sent down unto you the Book (The Qur'an), explained in detail." Those unto whom We gave the Scripture [the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] know that it is revealed from your Lord in truth. So be not you of those who doubt. S. 6:114
And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers. And be not thou of those who deny the revelations of Allah, for then wert thou of the losers. S. 10:94-95
"People of the Book, you do not stand on anything, until you perform the Torah and the Gospel [Injil], and what was sent down to you from your Lord." ... S. 5:68
[Say (O Muhammad SAW)] "Shall I seek a judge other than Allah while it is He Who has sent down unto you the Book (The Qur'an), explained in detail." Those unto whom We gave the Scripture [the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] know that it is revealed from your Lord in truth. So be not you of those who doubt. S. 6:114
And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers. And be not thou of those who deny the revelations of Allah, for then wert thou of the losers. S. 10:94-95
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Muslims receive Mohammed and Jews do not believe that Jesus is the son of God.
Mohammed was a deranged demonic person and His writings are babble at best, Starting 650 AD.
The Jews do not accept Christ because He did not make them the America of the day, In their minds being set free is to be set free from their flesh enemies which Jesus did not do. Proven by Rome destroying the temple in 70 AD.
Mohammed was disowned by his family and punched out by his uncle but found a group of poor slobs to trust in Him and became terrorist to this day. I meant read the Qouran it makes no since it is a bunch of babble and has no structure.
The Jews did exist for almost 2 thousand years u til the UN decided to give them a state, this by much political pressure and Jews with clout. They tried to give them a large parcel of land in South America , but this was not Gods plan. They gave in and gave them Israel or Jerusalem ( Come on atheist) They even fought over what their money would be called and they Shekel won out which is what it was called in OT times. They became a nation in one day by the stroke of a pen as prophesied.
Israel is more of a witness now than the church has ever been. even though the majority of Israelite are atheist. The fact that they exist is testimony to God and the reason why Satan fights them so hard. Because if he can cause one promise made to Israel to fail then he wins, because he has made God a liar, but that will not happen. Pray for the peace of Israel and not the false peace.
Atheist cannot explain Israel and is a thorn in their side.
Mohammed was a deranged demonic person and His writings are babble at best, Starting 650 AD.
The Jews do not accept Christ because He did not make them the America of the day, In their minds being set free is to be set free from their flesh enemies which Jesus did not do. Proven by Rome destroying the temple in 70 AD.
Mohammed was disowned by his family and punched out by his uncle but found a group of poor slobs to trust in Him and became terrorist to this day. I meant read the Qouran it makes no since it is a bunch of babble and has no structure.
The Jews did exist for almost 2 thousand years u til the UN decided to give them a state, this by much political pressure and Jews with clout. They tried to give them a large parcel of land in South America , but this was not Gods plan. They gave in and gave them Israel or Jerusalem ( Come on atheist) They even fought over what their money would be called and they Shekel won out which is what it was called in OT times. They became a nation in one day by the stroke of a pen as prophesied.
Israel is more of a witness now than the church has ever been. even though the majority of Israelite are atheist. The fact that they exist is testimony to God and the reason why Satan fights them so hard. Because if he can cause one promise made to Israel to fail then he wins, because he has made God a liar, but that will not happen. Pray for the peace of Israel and not the false peace.
Atheist cannot explain Israel and is a thorn in their side.
According to DR Alberto Rivera, Islam create by Catholic. Vatican want Jerusalem, but she want to use Islam, to look good. She doesn't want people know. Than Islam capture Jerusalem, Vatican help finance the expedition, but they rebel and not turn to Vatican.
DR Alberto Rivera start to tell this story in the 60's, When I read about it in the early 90, I don't believe it.
Now if you ask MR Google, you going to find millions of article confirm what Alberto said.
[h=3]Expose: The Vatican Wants to Lay its Hands on Jerusalem[/h]www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/150757
Arutz Sheva
Dec 15, 2011 - The Vatican is now reiterating demands for control of religious sites inJerusalem. Jordan's occupation 1948-1967 didn't bother them.
[h=3]U.S. plan gives Jerusalem holy sites to Vatican[/h]www.wnd.com/.../u-s-plan-gives-jerusalem-holy-sites-to-...
WorldNetDaily
Dec 15, 2013 - U.S. plan gives Jerusalem holy sites to Vatican ... Aaron Klein is WND's senior staff reporter and Jerusalem bureau chief. ... YOU MAY LIKE.
[h=3]The Vatican and Jerusalem - Red[/h]
I don't believe Mohammad get revelation to write Quran at all. It just a farce.
Say I declare as prophet, then I said, last night God give me a revelation, He said Washington is the US capital.
do you believe that? Washington has been US capital for more then 200 years and every body know it. You don't need revelation from the Lord to know Washington is US Capital.
It is what happen with the story in the Quran, about Moses, Aaron, etc. It has been in the bible not only 200 years, but more then 1000 years. And Mohammad said this story is directly told by angel of God to him.
According to DR Alberto Rivera, Vatican involve in cooking the book.
DR Alberto Rivera start to tell this story in the 60's, When I read about it in the early 90, I don't believe it.
Now if you ask MR Google, you going to find millions of article confirm what Alberto said.
[h=3]Expose: The Vatican Wants to Lay its Hands on Jerusalem[/h]www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/150757
Arutz Sheva
Dec 15, 2011 - The Vatican is now reiterating demands for control of religious sites inJerusalem. Jordan's occupation 1948-1967 didn't bother them.
[h=3]U.S. plan gives Jerusalem holy sites to Vatican[/h]www.wnd.com/.../u-s-plan-gives-jerusalem-holy-sites-to-...
WorldNetDaily
Dec 15, 2013 - U.S. plan gives Jerusalem holy sites to Vatican ... Aaron Klein is WND's senior staff reporter and Jerusalem bureau chief. ... YOU MAY LIKE.
[h=3]The Vatican and Jerusalem - Red[/h]
I don't believe Mohammad get revelation to write Quran at all. It just a farce.
Say I declare as prophet, then I said, last night God give me a revelation, He said Washington is the US capital.
do you believe that? Washington has been US capital for more then 200 years and every body know it. You don't need revelation from the Lord to know Washington is US Capital.
It is what happen with the story in the Quran, about Moses, Aaron, etc. It has been in the bible not only 200 years, but more then 1000 years. And Mohammad said this story is directly told by angel of God to him.
According to DR Alberto Rivera, Vatican involve in cooking the book.
M
I think you might have misheard him I have heard the phrase the "american jesus" before and it is because you have to remember in most of the world including the Middle East Roman Catholics are the main stay of Christianity for 1000's of years and evangelicals are completely new and mainly from the United States
Maybe because instead of reading the bible for themselves they believe the lies they are told by the enemy, otherwise they would believe this...
And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?
(Act 2:1-12)
And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?
(Act 2:1-12)
C
The clash with the Middle East is more cultural than religious. The same is the case with the European Jewry now in Israel as well, its a clash of cultures. Historically Middle Eastern Jews were living peacefully in the Middle Eastern countries with the Muslims. Prior to the formation of Israel, historically there was no holocaust or pogroms against Jews in the Middle East, but they existed in Europe. From a temporal stand point I for one can very well understand why someone would object, I am sure this would happen in any region where a nation that did not exist for 1000s of years is artificially created. That being said, as a Christian I can very well understand why Israel needs to exist and exist where it does.
C
Failure to recognize the Messiah was expected, wasn't it? Mark 12
Jews rejected because Jesus was not whom they expected the Messiah to be. Perhaps we can say they didnt recognize because they did not submit to the word of God, rather they formed their own ideas of who the Messiah would be.
Muslims - the reasons Muslims came into being itself was because of Christians straying away from the Bible. Around 600 A.D. In spite of the Nicene Creed and other efforts by Christian leaders, blasphemous acts such as Mary worship were taking shape and precedence. Islam rejected it all and we can say was a way to get back to God at that time in history. Yes there are errors in Islam, but that was how it all began.
Jews rejected because Jesus was not whom they expected the Messiah to be. Perhaps we can say they didnt recognize because they did not submit to the word of God, rather they formed their own ideas of who the Messiah would be.
Muslims - the reasons Muslims came into being itself was because of Christians straying away from the Bible. Around 600 A.D. In spite of the Nicene Creed and other efforts by Christian leaders, blasphemous acts such as Mary worship were taking shape and precedence. Islam rejected it all and we can say was a way to get back to God at that time in history. Yes there are errors in Islam, but that was how it all began.
I Have few good Muslim m8s,n we talk about lot of stuffs,n few things I found out funny what they believe in.they say it was ishmael not Isaac on the mount to be offered as a sacrifice.they think the NT has been corrupted,n Jesus is prophet n not the son of God.of course they say Quran is the true word of God.
my prayer is God would open the eyes n heart of Muslims n they would turn to Christ.
my prayer is God would open the eyes n heart of Muslims n they would turn to Christ.
Some of the oldest forms of Christianity are in Arab countries (Copts, Armenian, Assyrian, Eastern Orthodox).....well, at least when they aren't being persecuted, murdered, oppressed, and driven out.
Sure, I guess they could all be driven out or exterminated then one could proclaim that no Arabs in the region are Christian. But that's sort of like tearing up the football field, tearing down the stadium and claiming you won the game. It really signals that you can't win on reason and conviction alone.
In my estimation, Arabs are very open to Christianity when they know that they won't be persecuted and ostracized for their convictions.
Sure, I guess they could all be driven out or exterminated then one could proclaim that no Arabs in the region are Christian. But that's sort of like tearing up the football field, tearing down the stadium and claiming you won the game. It really signals that you can't win on reason and conviction alone.
In my estimation, Arabs are very open to Christianity when they know that they won't be persecuted and ostracized for their convictions.