First Four Seals of Revelation Identified

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PlainWord

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Recent revelations have come to light which now makes it possible to identify the first 4 seals of Revelation. First a quick back drop...

The Beast of the Sea (Rev 13) has been shown to be a future Northern Islamic Alliance comprised of Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran and 3 other nation states along with another entity unlike the others. This alliance will have 10 rulers/kings.

MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH is Mecca and by extension Saudi Arabia (Proof of this is found through the OT and NT).

Islam is the False Religion that began in 623 AD with the Prophet Muhammad. Much of Revelation deals with Islam and the Idolatry of worshiping Allah. Thus much of the symbols and signs leading up to the exploits of Satan's BEAST kingdom, deal with the evolution of Islam into the world dominating and terrifying power that she is in the process of becoming. Both Daniel and John had visions of this future ISLAMIC EVIL POWERHOUSE.

The first 4 seals represent this evolution of this ISLAMIC SATANIC BEAST KINGDOM.

Seal #1 WHITE HORSE: Conquests of Muhammad and the Rashidun

2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.

Seal #2 RED HORSE: Ottoman Empire 1299 - 1922

4 Another horse, fiery red, went out. And it was granted to the one who sat on it to take peace from the earth, and that people should kill one another; and there was given to him a great sword.


Flag of Ottoman Empire

The OTTOMAN EMPIRE is the 7th BEAST EMPIRE in a continuous line of evil empires that Daniel describes. When it ended in 1922, this was the first time since Egypt of Moses' day that the line was broken. So, the Beast (Turkey) was mortally wounded but it will be Turkey that comes back and from where the Man of Sin originates. It will be Turkey which brokers a peace deal with Israel and the other Arab states.

Seal #3 BLACK HORSE: Wealth of Ruling Class in Islamic States

5 When He opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come and see." So I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, "A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not harm the oil and the wine."


The Sheiks of the Arab States have become filthy rich from oil since at least the 1970s. Their wealth is in enormous disproportion to their working class. Most of the world's poorest populations are Islamic but the greed of their rulers has no compassion. There are countless articles on the web which contrast the rich and poor in Iran, Saudi, Iraq and other Muslim nations.

Seal #4 GREEN HORSE (Incorrectly translated PALE) - WARING ISLAMIC BEAST



8 So I looked, and behold, a pale (CHLOROS = GREEN) horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth.

Those who kill in the name of Allah believe they are getting a free trip to heaven and 72 virgins. What they get in reality is immediate spiritual death and a free trip to Hades. Right now, Muslims control 24% of the world so they have power over 1/4 of the earth. Within their sphere of influence they kill using weapons, by poverty/starvation as we saw in the 3rd seal, by death which means by disease and chemical/biological and perhaps soon nuclear weapons. Beasts are nations so they also kill by state sponsored terror.

The 5th seal is the result of all the previous seals. Throughout history, the succession of BEAST kingdoms have killed GOD'S people and the last BEAST empire will be worse than all previous versions.
 

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Rev 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow;
and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

1. This white horse rider comes before the other white horse rider in Rev. 19:11-13
2. This First Rider sats upon a white horse (religions)
3. This First Rider had a bow (no arrows)
4. This First Rider a crown was given unto him (made a king)
5. This First Rider went forth conquering and to conquer
6. This First Rider is the Antichrist


Behold A White Horse:

1. This Second Rider comes after the First White Horse Rider in Rev.
2. This Second Rider is called Faithful & True
3. This Second Rider in righteousness he doth judge and make war
4. This Second Rider eyes were as a flame of fire
5. This Second Rider had on his head many crowns
6. This Second Rider and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
7. This Second Rider was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood
8. This Second Rider Name is called the Word of God
9. This Second Rider armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean
10. This Second Rider out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations
11.This Second Rider shall rule them with a Rod of Iron
12.This Second Rider he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God
13.This Second Rider hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS
14. This Second Rider is Jesus Christ.
 

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The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

Why did John not wright about olivet promise?
Johns virsion of the Olivet prophecy, Revelation,chapter 6. first four seals

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof” (Revelation 5:5).

the Olivet prophecy
2And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately,

mark 13:4
Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?

1 horse 6For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
(christ-ity, denomanations)
2 horse 7And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.
3 horse 8For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles:
4 horse these are the beginnings of sorrows.

matthew 24
1 horse 4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
2 horse 6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled:
for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
3 horse 7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines,
and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
4 horse 8All these are the beginning of sorrows.

luke 21
1 horse 8And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying,
I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
2 horse 9But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass;
but the end is not by and by.
10Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
3 horse 11And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences;
4 horse and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

The first and most deadly horseman is religious deception!
because men are deceived so bad that even Christ’s own disciples are deceived!
The word conquer means “to come off with the victory”
that the largest organized religious “cult”on Earth today waged the bloodiest battles ever,
in the name of God.
The horseman has wreaked havoc on mankind with religious wars throughout history.
 
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Interesting theory brother but maybe it should be framed as a theory and not THE answer to one of the biggest mysteries in all scripture. We have enough "the antichrist revealed!!" "the TRUTH about the end times" material out there.

But thanks for sharing. God bless you.
 

Markum1972

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Rev 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow;
and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

1. This white horse rider comes before the other white horse rider in Rev. 19:11-13
2. This First Rider sats upon a white horse (religions)
3. This First Rider had a bow (no arrows)
4. This First Rider a crown was given unto him (made a king)
5. This First Rider went forth conquering and to conquer
6. This First Rider is the Antichrist


Behold A White Horse:

1. This Second Rider comes after the First White Horse Rider in Rev.
2. This Second Rider is called Faithful & True
3. This Second Rider in righteousness he doth judge and make war
4. This Second Rider eyes were as a flame of fire
5. This Second Rider had on his head many crowns
6. This Second Rider and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
7. This Second Rider was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood
8. This Second Rider Name is called the Word of God
9. This Second Rider armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean
10. This Second Rider out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations
11.This Second Rider shall rule them with a Rod of Iron
12.This Second Rider he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God
13.This Second Rider hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS
14. This Second Rider is Jesus Christ.
To say that Jesus is one of the four horsemen of the seals, is to also say that Jesus would join forces with them in the 4th seal? Are you suggesting here that Jesus will join forces with the antichrist?
 

Markum1972

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And yes, Jesus is elsewhere described as coming on a white horse. This does not mean it is the same as the 1st seal. Let us not forget that Jesus is called the lion of the tribe of Judah, yet Satan is also described as a lion seeking whom he may devour.
So you cannot always take a likeness from one place and apply it to another.
 
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Revelation 19:11 Then I saw heaven opened, and a white horse was standing there. Its rider was named Faithful and True, for he judges fairly and wages a righteous war.
jesus is the lone rider on the horse called faithful and true
 
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He is also a lion...
 

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To say that Jesus is one of the four horsemen of the seals, is to also say that Jesus would join forces with them in the 4th seal? Are you suggesting here that Jesus will join forces with the antichrist?
6. This First Rider is the Antichrist

the first horse is false religion,i never said Christ was first horse, like some believe it means


this false religion from rome was the cathloc church
 
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I get what youre saying about the white horse - the duplicated copy cat.. the imposter.(religion).. trying to look like christ who is actually the real rider on the horse called faithful and true... two versions of the same thing except only one version is true (jesus is the real deal not religion)
 

Markum1972

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6. This First Rider is the Antichrist

the first horse is false religion,i never said Christ was first horse, like some believe it means


this false religion from rome was the cathloc church
I have heard of this before and while I will not say that the 1st beast is not...

The Roman Catholic church - appearance of white and pure
Conquest - conquest of Constantine

It is the 4th horseman that brings about the death of the saints (as shown in the 5th seal). It is also the final kingdom that fits this description. However, I have noted how the 4th horsemen "rules with the other beasts".

This was my original interpretation (not learned by any teaching of man) of the horsemen, which seems to work with what both of you have said...

White Horse - Constantine, the Roman Catholic church ("many shall come in MY [Jesus] name and deceive many). White gives the appearance of holy and pure.
Red - Socialism; a system of dependency upon government and man; instead of God. It exercises dominion over the inhabitants of the earth instead of dominion over the earth. It takes peace from the earth and causes wars ("that they should kill one another")
Black - "The love of money is the root of all evil." Being "in the black" means to be profitable. The scales showing the value of food converted to money. Capitalism
Pale/Green - The antichrist kingdom. Islam

The result in the 4th seal is ALL of them combined into one ruling force.

So we look at the evidence of this.

The four horsemen unified:
Socialism: The Roman Catholic church has always exercised dominion and control over the people, even taking bibles away so that others would have to come to a cathedral/church to hear the bible read (Dark Ages). It has always tried to make the people dependent upon it, even to receive salvation (confession of sins to a priest, etc...) The conquest of Islam is the same. Both of these have become drunk on the blood of the prophets.
Capitalism: Self-evident
The Roman Catholic church and Islam: The Roman Catholic church accepts Allah as being the god of Abraham as stated in the Qu'ran (Christians in many countries, especially Saudi Arabia, call God "Allāh al-ibn" [Allah/God the Father]. The pope is currently having meetings in attempt to unify Christianity and Islam as one religion (in the news). Also google "Chrislam"

Personally, I think that this is the biggest cause of the "Rome vs. Islam" debates as to which will be the final empire. When in fact it is a unified kingdom of both.

However, in the end it will be Islam that reveals its true intentions (just like Hitler deceived the nations for a season).
 

Markum1972

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Understand. I also agree with the interpretation presented here by Plainword and find it a very exciting confirmation.
 

Markum1972

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Furthermore, I will be taking what you (plainword) have presented here into great consideration as I just realized that your interpretation presents the horsemen beasts as kingdoms which is a more accurate description.
 

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Over the past 2000 years, and especially the last few hundred, there have been many efforts to describe current events as the horsemen. We can speculate all we want to. This is from Billy's book of facts. When a horseman appears, we'll KNOW it.
 

Jackson123

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I get what youre saying about the white horse - the duplicated copy cat.. the imposter.(religion).. trying to look like christ who is actually the real rider on the horse called faithful and true... two versions of the same thing except only one version is true (jesus is the real deal not religion)
Yup. It is not Islam. Islam didn't accept Jesus as a God, but they declare openly. This rider is pretend to be Jesus. Pope is very close to this description He claim to be Jesus representative on earth.
 

Markum1972

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Over the past 2000 years, and especially the last few hundred, there have been many efforts to describe current events as the horsemen. We can speculate all we want to. This is from Billy's book of facts. When a horseman appears, we'll KNOW it.
And how do you propose that we will KNOW it.

What about instead of describing current events as the horsemen, one uses the descriptions of the horsemen to be able to identify what they are describing? There is a major difference.

Jews and Christians were warned of Hitler, but MOST (almost all) ignored the warnings. However, there were few ("few there be that find it") that WERE in fact spared because they considered the warnings and sought God on the meanings.

If your proposal is correct, then how can it possible for the scriptures to be correct when saying that "many will be deceived". If what you say is true, and we will all just KNOW it, then no one will be deceived and thus the scriptures are a lie.

However it is written that we are to "watch and pray" and to "search the deep things of God". If neither of these things matter because we will just KNOW it, then why is it written?
 

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If you are right good for you, if you are wrong are you willing to be stoned to death as a false prophet?
 

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religious deception

Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.
So be on your guard! Remember that (for three years) I never stopped (warning each of you night and day with tears).

for three years he warned the church would be taken from within.

I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are
turning to a different gospel,which is really no gospel at all.

Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and
are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ

Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away
by the error of (the lawless) and fall from your secure position.

I know that false teachers, like vicious wolves, will come in among you (after I leave, not sparing the flock).
Even some men from (your own group) will rise up and (distort the truth) in order to draw a following.

And now I make one more appeal, my dear brothers and sisters.
Watch out for people who cause divisions and upset people’s faith

by teaching things contrary to what you have been taught. Stay away from them.

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation,
ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, (lawlessness)
and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in (sheep's clothing), but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

These are the things you are to teach and insist on.
If anyone teaches otherwise and does not agree to the sound instruction
of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,

These people draw near to Me with their mouth, and honor Me with their lips,
but their heart is far from Me.

And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men"



And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
 
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the word pale, which often makes us think of someone who is feeling sick, having an anemic-looking appearance.

Pale is translated from the Greek chloros, which we would normally take to mean the color of chlorophyll,
the property that gives plants their healthy green appearance.

When used biblically, however, chloros means the sickly pale green color of sickness and disease.
 
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One thing id like to share.. and its simply to share what Godnis doing in my relarionship with him...... god is building my trust and confidence in him to lead me... I will say there are things god has revealed through talking with him that I dont have a clue about because , to be honest? I habe read the binle all the way through..there is a point in this... everything ever given to anyone in the bible came the same way... no one had a bible to refer to before it was written.. so how did god communicate to those and inspired them to write?
By a personal communicative relationship, one on one with him... is He not still the same god? I ask god deep questions.. however he is deeper than I myself am able to go and better yet my interpretation is much more shallow unless it is He who gives the interpretation and understanding of what I am to know... he gives pictures I do not have a clue what they mean.. but how much honoring to Him to be able to "reveal" what they mean instead
of my interference with it... not at all condemning and I think all views are important to look at as he is the giver and measurer of our portions of understanding... some are in waiting for clarification of answers, some are knocking looking for them... some are sharing what God has already revealed to them.. i believe the discovery of answers with god is just as important as the results of answers.given by God. This is the part I've been habing to work on... patience in allowing god to reveal himself just as he is.. i kmow for me he is an unrecognizable appearance...butnim becoming more comfortable with how hes doing rather than how "I think"he should be doing it.. he is glorious and quite capable of all things and I have absolute confidence he will reveal what we ask of him... and give to us on an(( as needed to know basis)).. (his timing) ... I could be wrong.. not saying im right.. but gods done a real good job getting all of us here to this.point so far.. we need to continue our trust in him and keep going..