The gift that we received

[Liz01]

1 Peter 4:10 says "Each one should use whatever gift he has received to serve others, faithfully administering God's grace in its various forms"

How can we know which is the gift that we received?

[WomanLovesTX]

What are your dreams and visions? God's purpose is for us to do good, not just for our fellow Christians, but also for all other living. You have many gifts. Not just one, although there may be one that is more dominant and is most satisfying. Also, at different times in your life, you may have a gift that is more prominent or be given the opportunity to express a gift you had not recognized before.

[WomanLovesTX]

I want to add one more notable gift. That is gift of grace. Showing respect for the person and not focusing on their action. For example, your daughter just broke your prized antique candle stick that your was your great great grandmothers. You tell her it doesn't matter because she isn't broken.

[Thaddaeus]

Originally Posted by WomanLovesTX

What are your dreams and visions? God's purpose is for us to do good, not just for our fellow Christians, but also for all other living. You have many gifts. Not just one, although there may be one that is more dominant and is most satisfying. Also, at different times in your life, you may have a gift that is more prominent or be given the opportunity to express a gift you had not recognized before.

You can't tell someone how many gifts they have!!!!

You have many gifts. Not just one,

here is the parable about gifts and someone only received one, some received more but there was someone that did receive only one gift, so what if this applies to Liz01 also.

Mt 25:15And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey.

[WomanLovesTX]

Originally Posted by Thaddaeus

You can't tell someone how many gifts they have!!!!

Mt 25:15And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey.

And here is the rest of the story in Matthew 25: 15 And to one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one, to each according to his own ability; and immediately he went on a journey. 16 Then he who had received the five talents went and traded with them, and made another five talents. 17 And likewise he who had received two gained two more also. 18 But he who had received one went and dug in the ground, and hid his lord’s money. 19 After a long time the lord of those servants came and settled accounts with them.
20 “So he who had received five talents came and brought five other talents, saying, ‘Lord, you delivered to me five talents; look, I have gained five more talents besides them.’ 21 His lord said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant; you were faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.’ 22 He also who had received two talents came and said, ‘Lord, you delivered to me two talents; look, I have gained two more talents besides them.’ 23 His lord said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant; you have been faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.’
24 “Then he who had received the one talent came and said, ‘Lord, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you have not sown, and gathering where you have not scattered seed. 25 And I was afraid, and went and hid your talent in the ground. Look, there you have what is yours.’
26 “But his lord answered and said to him, ‘You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed. 27 So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming I would have received back my own with interest. 28 So take the talent from him, and give it to him who has ten talents.
29 ‘For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. 30 And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

And your point is? You can receive one, don't put it to use so that it want increase? How is your one talent doing? Are you telling the truth or you a hypocrite? Jesus called hypocrites those who added, changed and deleted from God's Words. Taking scriptures out of context is like cutting out the part you don't like and you want to ignore or to put others under bondage. Really. That is Satan's job to keep you in darkness and not see the light.

First of all, Woe Nelly! Put on the brakes and look at what you are trying to say. In the scriptures 'talent' and 'gift' have nothing to do with each other nor are they even similar in meaning. In the NT there are 6 or 7 different words that appear as nouns and verbs that are translated 'gift' or 'gifts' and have various meanings. These gifts come from God by grace and are added to the believers life. Whether a believer is given one or several is determined by the will of God through the Holy Spirit / 1Cor 12:11.

A 'talent' in the scriptures, including Mt 25, has to do with a sum or weight, a balance of money, wealth, property or possessions, but nothing to do with a gift given or administered by the Holy Spirit. The talent was to be invested so that it would grow and increase, even if by simple interest. It had to do with the stewardship of money. The gifts believers are given by God through the Holy Spirit are given for edification of the body and for the work of the ministry. These gifts have nothing to do with any form of monetary means.

As believers we all have the same Spirit that works in us and it is not unusual to recognize a gift or gifts that another may have been given by God. Those gifts should be recognized and given the opportunity to be utilized to edify the body of Christ and work of the ministry.

[BillyTheKid]

I believe there is a big difference in God-given gifts and spiritual gifts. Once we understand the difference between the two, then we can fully understand each of them and how to use them. God Bless!

Originally Posted by BillyTheKid

I believe there is a big difference in God-given gifts and spiritual gifts. Once we understand the difference between the two, then we can fully understand each of them and how to use them. God Bless!

Why not take this time to explain the difference so we can fully understand the point you are trying to make.

[Thaddaeus]

Originally Posted by WomanLovesTX

And here is the rest of the story in Matthew 25: 15 And to one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one, to each according to his own ability; and immediately he went on a journey. 16 Then he who had received the five talents went and traded with them, and made another five talents. 17 And likewise he who had received two gained two more also. 18 But he who had received one went and dug in the ground, and hid his lord’s money. 19 After a long time the lord of those servants came and settled accounts with them.
20 “So he who had received five talents came and brought five other talents, saying, ‘Lord, you delivered to me five talents; look, I have gained five more talents besides them.’ 21 His lord said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant; you were faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.’ 22 He also who had received two talents came and said, ‘Lord, you delivered to me two talents; look, I have gained two more talents besides them.’ 23 His lord said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant; you have been faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.’
24 “Then he who had received the one talent came and said, ‘Lord, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you have not sown, and gathering where you have not scattered seed. 25 And I was afraid, and went and hid your talent in the ground. Look, there you have what is yours.’
26 “But his lord answered and said to him, ‘You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed. 27 So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming I would have received back my own with interest. 28 So take the talent from him, and give it to him who has ten talents.
29 ‘For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. 30 And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

And your point is? You can receive one, don't put it to use so that it want increase? How is your one talent doing? Are you telling the truth or you a hypocrite? Jesus called hypocrites those who added, changed and deleted from God's Words. Taking scriptures out of context is like cutting out the part you don't like and you want to ignore or to put others under bondage. Really. That is Satan's job to keep you in darkness and not see the light.

my point was that God don't like people to assume anything that He has done, He deals in the Spirit and truth , and they is no way you can say that someone has more than one gift , you are not God and you have not gve out any gifts to Liz, so you can not say without assuming that She has more than one gift. I showed you from scripture that someone was given only one gift, and that gift was even taken from them because they had not used it and then there was none how do you know that this has not happened to Liz and I am not saying that it has, only saying that you shouldn't mislead peole by saying how many gifts they have . when You don't know. so now who is adding to the things of God, if Liz only has one gift or no gifts and you tell her she has more than one gift.

[Thaddaeus]

Originally Posted by shad

First of all, Woe Nelly! Put on the brakes and look at what you are trying to say. In the scriptures 'talent' and 'gift' have nothing to do with each other nor are they even similar in meaning. In the NT there are 6 or 7 different words that appear as nouns and verbs that are translated 'gift' or 'gifts' and have various meanings. These gifts come from God by grace and are added to the believers life. Whether a believer is given one or several is determined by the will of God through the Holy Spirit / 1Cor 12:11.

A 'talent' in the scriptures, including Mt 25, has to do with a sum or weight, a balance of money, wealth, property or possessions, but nothing to do with a gift given or administered by the Holy Spirit. The talent was to be invested so that it would grow and increase, even if by simple interest. It had to do with the stewardship of money. The gifts believers are given by God through the Holy Spirit are given for edification of the body and for the work of the ministry. These gifts have nothing to do with any form of monetary means.

As believers we all have the same Spirit that works in us and it is not unusual to recognize a gift or gifts that another may have been given by God. Those gifts should be recognized and given the opportunity to be utilized to edify the body of Christ and work of the ministry.

wow it is a parable, He also used money in another parable about a lady having ten pieces and losing one but was no talking about money. I can't even believe you even posted this, faith is even looked at as a measure,..

Ro 12:3For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the MEASURE of faith.

Originally Posted by Thaddaeus

wow it is a parable, He also used money in another parable about a lady having ten pieces and losing one but was no talking about money. I can't even believe you even posted this, faith is even looked at as a measure,..

Ro 12:3For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the MEASURE of faith.

Look, you made a mistake when you compared a single talent in Mt 25 to a gift in response to knowing whether believers having more than one gift. Parable or not the single talent is not a gift and you can't use it to justify your own understanding about the gifts that God gives to believers. It is not a hard or difficult thing to correct, just do it and realize also that God does give believers more than one gift in the will of God and it is knowable. Be happy with that and your faith is not ruined nor has it been effected negatively in any way.

Within that measure of faith in Rom 12:3, God administers gifts to believers. The word for 'measure' is metron and is not translated 'talent' nor has anything to do with a talent, which is talanton. You have expressed that you do not need the Greek or Hebrew language because you have the authorized KJV version and a Websters Dictionary. Why don't you use Strong's Concordance and see what that has to say about those words. This a downfall for you as a pastor and teacher when you study the word because you need to have a basic understand of the original language in many cases. The KJV does not get it right all the time nor does it translate using the right words to give the right understanding. It would make you a better teacher if you learned the basics. This series of posts is a case in point.

[Thaddaeus]

Originally Posted by shad

Look, you made a mistake when you compared a single talent in Mt 25 to a gift in response to knowing whether believers having more than one gift. Parable or not the single talent is not a gift and you can't use it to justify your own understanding about the gifts that God gives to believers. It is not a hard or difficult thing to correct, just do it and realize also that God does give believers more than one gift in the will of God and it is knowable. Be happy with that and your faith is not ruined nor has it been effected negatively in any way.

Within that measure of faith in Rom 12:3, God administers gifts to believers. The word for 'measure' is metron and is not translated 'talent' nor has anything to do with a talent, which is talanton. You have expressed that you do not need the Greek or Hebrew language because you have the authorized KJV version and a Websters Dictionary. Why don't you use Strong's Concordance and see what that has to say about those words. This a downfall for you as a pastor and teacher when you study the word because you need to have a basic understand of the original language in many cases. The KJV does not get it right all the time nor does it translate using the right words to give the right understanding. It would make you a better teacher if you learned the basics. This series of posts is a case in point.

a parable is where God uses an earthly thing or situation to explain a spiritual situation or thing, so that they that are spiritual can understand it better I did not make a mistake by saying that matt 25 , was trying to teach us about our spiritual gifts, for even the womanlovesTx acknowledges that this is a parable about gifts so do most, if not all Christians do, so you are just showing your ignorance of scripture, so if I knew how to start a poll thread in here, I would and see how many people believe that matt 25 about where God gave some ten talents and some one talent , if all agree if this was referring to the Gifts that he bestrows on His Children,


Mt 13:31Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:


I guess your argument here would be that this can't be referring to heaven for evryone knows that the kingdom of heaven would have to be much larger than a Grain of mustard seed??

I think it is rare for a person to have only one natural gift. I don't think that there is anything disrespectful to God about encouraging a person to recognize previously unrealized giftings. I think that for natural gifts one should try out new things to discover where you are gifted. I think you should also pursue opportunites to increase you skills in all of your natural gifts.
Spiritual giftings often coincide with natural giftings. So if you are a natural speaker, you might find yourself being used in the prophetic giftings. Since the locus of giftings is the Holy Spirit, everyone has potentially any spiritual giftings which they need for ministry. Once again, some ministries will utilize some giftings more often and other ministries others. Jesus would withdraw for the purpose of prayer and fasting which would then prepare him for miraculous works and I think this is the principal method to use in increasing your usefulness in spiritual giftings. Also there is the question of benevolent coincidence--that what God brings into your life directs the focus of your ministries and thus your giftings.

[Liz01]

Originally Posted by shad

In the scriptures 'talent' and 'gift' have nothing to do with each other nor are they even similar in meaning. .

I don´t i understand completily the difference between a gift and a talent, but i don´t think the meaning of 'talent' be 'money' or something to do with that.

Originally Posted by WomanLovesTX

What are your dreams and visions? God's purpose is for us to do good, not just for our fellow Christians, but also for all other living.

but i think that is a good idea to remember what are my dreams or the things I like to find out the gift or gifts I have

Originally Posted by Thaddaeus

a parable is where God uses an earthly thing or situation to explain a spiritual situation or thing, so that they that are spiritual can understand it better I did not make a mistake by saying that matt 25 , was trying to teach us about our spiritual gifts, for even the womanlovesTx acknowledges that this is a parable about gifts so do most, if not all Christians do, so you are just showing your ignorance of scripture, so if I knew how to start a poll thread in here, I would and see how many people believe that matt 25 about where God gave some ten talents and some one talent , if all agree if this was referring to the Gifts that he bestrows on His Children,


Mt 13:31Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:


I guess your argument here would be that this can't be referring to heaven for evryone knows that the kingdom of heaven would have to be much larger than a Grain of mustard seed??

Just because we have parables we don't change the meaning of the words that are used in the parables. In Mt 13 the kingdom of heaven is likened unto ... the following. It does not say that the kingdom of heaven is the same as but is likened unto. That is a major difference compared to what you are referring to when you use it. More importantly, in Mt 25 the talents are not likened unto gifts in any way, shape or form as you have suggested. No one is being exercised in a gift for the edification of another. Two of the three servants are increasing their talents but the servant who has only one talent has buried it without usury (increase or interest). The conclusion of the parable is stated in verse 25-30 and I quote ...

* the blue lettering is my add in conjunction with your assertion

25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent (a gift of the Holy Spirit) in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.
26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money (a gift of the Holy Spirit) to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
28 Take therefore the talent (a gift of the Holy Spirit) from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents (gifts).
29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


Does this sound like it has anything to do with the gifts of the Holy Spirit? Am I suppose to believe that if I don't exercise myself in the single gift that the Holy Spirit has given me that God will take away my gift which I had and cast me as an unprofitable servant into outer darkness / verse 29,30? Is that what you believe this parable of the talents is teaching? You just have it wrong and you need to humble yourself and correct it for the body's sake. I know that you don't live unto yourself so do it unto God and for the Lord's sake. No one will judge you and you will have peace.

[MahogonySnail]

It's easy to tell a gift you received when at some point in your life you get something that makes you able to do something beyond your natural ability. Most gifts are given contrary to the natural ability of the receiver for that very reason - so that it can be God's supernatural ability rather than the person's learned or natural ability,..that's why many timid people super-naturally become great preachers, like Benny Hinn as one example.

[WomanLovesTX]

Romans 12

Serve God with Spiritual Gifts


3 For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith. 4 For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, 5 so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another. 6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them:

Does this in anyway imply that "us" excludes any member of the body?

Originally Posted by WomanLovesTX

Romans 12

Serve God with Spiritual Gifts


3 For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith. 4 For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, 5 so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another. 6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them:

Does this in anyway imply that "us" excludes any member of the body?

No. I think that it is God's will for all believers to use their natural giftings for His glory and to be willing to be used beyond the natural for His glory.

[Thaddaeus]

Originally Posted by shad

Just because we have parables we don't change the meaning of the words that are used in the parables. In Mt 13 the kingdom of heaven is likened unto ... the following. It does not say that the kingdom of heaven is the same as but is likened unto. That is a major difference compared to what you are referring to when you use it. More importantly, in Mt 25 the talents are not likened unto gifts in any way, shape or form as you have suggested. No one is being exercised in a gift for the edification of another. Two of the three servants are increasing their talents but the servant who has only one talent has buried it without usury (increase or interest). The conclusion of the parable is stated in verse 25-30 and I quote ...

* the blue lettering is my add in conjunction with your assertion

25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent (a gift of the Holy Spirit) in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.
26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money (a gift of the Holy Spirit) to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
28 Take therefore the talent (a gift of the Holy Spirit) from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents (gifts).
29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


Does this sound like it has anything to do with the gifts of the Holy Spirit? Am I suppose to believe that if I don't exercise myself in the single gift that the Holy Spirit has given me that God will take away my gift which I had and cast me as an unprofitable servant into outer darkness / verse 29,30? Is that what you believe this parable of the talents is teaching? You just have it wrong and you need to humble yourself and correct it for the body's sake. I know that you don't live unto yourself so do it unto God and for the Lord's sake. No one will judge you and you will have peace.

Ok back to my first example a lady had ten coins and lost one and spent all her time trying to found the lost coin, another had a hundred sheep and lost one and they left the 90 and 9 and looked for the one, these parables are about someone leaving fellowship of believers/ or a church, nothing to do with a lady and her money the lost coin could not be a person as a talent can not be a spiritual gift , but this is what God Used In His word, and A lost sheep is not and never will be aperson , But this and the story of the Talent was A PARABLE. the item( talent) was used to represent something else. can someone tell me how to start a poll thread or will someone else please tell Shad that the story of the talents could, just could be about spiritual gifts .

Originally Posted by Thaddaeus

Ok back to my first example a lady had ten coins and lost one and spent all her time trying to found the lost coin, another had a hundred sheep and lost one and they left the 90 and 9 and looked for the one, these parables are about someone leaving fellowship of believers/ or a church, nothing to do with a lady and her money the lost coin could not be a person as a talent can not be a spiritual gift , but this is what God Used In His word, and A lost sheep is not and never will be aperson , But this and the story of the Talent was A PARABLE. the item( talent) was used to represent something else. can someone tell me how to start a poll thread or will someone else please tell Shad that the story of the talents could, just could be about spiritual gifts .

The parable of the talents is a lesson in using all that He has given us for His purpose until His return, this would include natural and supernatural giftings and many other things, in fact everything.