the purpose of the law

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thefightinglamb

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I am going to write this post well knowing the lack of perception that is going on in many other threads...and also well knowing how 'useless' it might seem to point out to either side what they are missing...

The law still has its place...for example, Christians first coming to Christ still feel in themselves, very strongly, what Paul says 'what he will he does not, and what he hates he keeps doing.' (this can be taken another way as well which I will show later) Here, the Christian truly seeking God is also somewhat still affected or should-I-say loves sin. The flesh fights against the spirit most ardently as the soul tries to bring itself into full submission to God's will. For some insane reason parts of oneself seem to seek to hide in the former darkness, and it is only by relying on the law that one can bring these areas into the light of Christ...these are everything from emotions, the flesh, glances, the mind, words, and the heart...it would be devastating to tell anyone who is in this light that he is a slave to the law, because he would repond as Paul says, you have a choice to be a slave to sin or a slave to the law (note that he would say a slave to the law and not righteousness), and I was a slave but now I am free to follow the law and this law has become a blessing to me...

Later on, the law also has its place...but it becomes much different...after Christ shows himself, the soul yearns for him "even as a deer pants for streams of water." That is the soul feeds on God alone and no longer are any of the higher parts of the soul in slavery to sin...it is as if the soul feeds on light and that light illumines and frees the heart for partakes of the rummage heaps like the prodigal son and returning to the Father...what do you care for a life of sin, of death, when you truly see the Lord? The fetters fall away and one stands mesmerized and perplexed...and loving.

Now that the soul loves Jesus Christ, the expression 'that what I will I do not and that what I hate I keep doing takes on a whole new depth.' Any sin now that the person commits is truly and honestly against what he is fighting to do--that is no matter what the sin is he wants it not.

God often uses the analogy of marriage for our relationship with Him....so here, may the Lord give light through this analogy...A person who loves his wife/husband does not look for adultry because s/he loves him/her not because he can't or there is a law. For some reason I am reminded of that scene in dumb and dumber where Jim Carrey is asked to comment on a girl and he reponds "yeah he must work out" because he truly was in love with the girl he was chasing to Aspen...pretty bad analogy sorry...

Think about it...Its the difference between saying I can't because I love her...or loving her and so that thought never crossing your mind...which way is better?

God bless all who love the Lord and the light of his presence, marveling at him and him alone

tony

ps...I was going to write one more important idea but I forgot what it was hopefully I will remember later so this thread doesn't go in circles like all the other ones...please pray to the Lord before just assuming what you believe is right...and yes may God open all of our ears and minds who trust in Him.
 
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Very good points fightinglamb...Why should anyone who has truly trusted Jesus as their Savior even want to sin? But we still do, because we still have the carnal flesh....Paul speaks of this BATTLE that is going on inside in the verses you alluded to...a battle with the flesh and spiritual warfare(Ephesians 6:11-17)

"Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith." Galatians 3:24

Those that turn to Christ because they realize their condemnation under the law, turn to the Savior for the forgiveness of sins and salvation(Romans 3:19-20)....Those that turn to Jesus because they were told it was a commitment they had to make(without the consciousness of their sinful state) were led like sheep to the slaughter....Because if one was never convicted of their sins by the law, then they would think good works were good enough(even adding those works to the finished work that Christ completed)! See verse below:

"For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief." —Proverb 24:16

We can never become fully like Christ until we meet Him...(see 1 John 3:2, Psalm 17:15)...But we are called to live Godly lives as Christians(Romans 12:1-2)

As believers when we fall short, we can be chastised by God(Like a father chastises their son when the son disobeys)...(See Hebrews 12:5-7)
 
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