Bible study tips

[Malcyboy]

This may be a long shot question... but I really wanna get into my bible and start looking past the face value of it.

I mostly use my AKJV as my main text of choice with others a NKJV study bible should I lack undestanding of what the text is saying. My study bible also has a very very helpful topical study section where it lists a list of scriptures relevant to each subject, and is very full..

I also have a full bible commentary which has been really helpful and expands on the scripture...

Now heres my question...what do I actually do? lol I tend to open up my study bible at a subject, read the scriptures of a subject and then sit there thinking, "what next?" I don't know what I am actually doing... my church doesn't any bible studies, and so I feel like I am in a bit of a rut. Is there any point writing out scriptures in a notebook, since they are all listed in a topical section in my bible? BAH i dunno...

Help is welcome!

 

[Jason0047]

I have recently found it helpful to comment on the Bible with others here online at CC (Christian Chat).

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/100331-study-scriptures-all-stories-bible.html

You're welcome to join in on the study. What I do is when I run into text I am not sure about in what it says, I employ the following methods so as to ascertain what that text is saying:

#1. Ask God for understanding (Jeremiah 33:3).
#2. Research. One way is to search the Internet and read articles and or Bible Commentaries.
#3. Compare Scripture with Scripture (Meaning what other verses say the same thing).
#4. Does such a view of the text fit the context or the surrounding text?
#5. How does this text testify or talk about Jesus Christ? (See John 5:39).

 

[kennethcadwell]

I have recently found it helpful to comment on the Bible with others here online at CC (Christian Chat).

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/100331-study-scriptures-all-stories-bible.html

You're welcome to join in on the study. What I do is when I run into text I am not sure about in what it says, I employ the following methods so as to ascertain what that text is saying:

#1. Ask God for understanding (Jeremiah 33:3).
#2. Research. One way is to search the Internet and read articles and or Bible Commentaries.
#3. Compare Scripture with Scripture (Meaning what other verses say the same thing).
#4. Does such a view of the text fit the context or the surrounding text?
#5. How does this text testify or talk about Jesus Christ? (See John 5:39).

You should also put a #6 on that list.
Talk to others to see how many man hours they have in studying the subject, and in Greek and Hebrew writing to know if they have a more well in-depth knowledge on the subject.
We are here to help each other. Just because somebody may have a different aspect or input then you they may not be wrong. You could be right in some cases, but others could be the one that is right in cases.

One should never have an aspect I am always right, and others are wrong if they don't think the same. The bible is against this way of thinking. He who thinks he is wise, will be made to look foolish.

 

[Jason0047]

I have recently found it helpful to comment on the Bible with others here online at CC (Christian Chat).

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/100331-study-scriptures-all-stories-bible.html

You're welcome to join in on the study. What I do is when I run into text I am not sure about in what it says, I employ the following methods so as to ascertain what that text is saying:

#1. Ask God for understanding (Jeremiah 33:3).
#2. Research. One way is to search the Internet and read articles and or Bible Commentaries.
#3. Compare Scripture with Scripture (Meaning what other verses say the same thing).
#4. Does such a view of the text fit the context or the surrounding text?
#5. How does this text testify or talk about Jesus Christ? (See John 5:39).

Currently, I am doing a study on doves and pigeons and how that relates to Jesus Christ as a part of the text found in Abraham's Story.

 

[Joidevivre]

I like to interact with the Lord as I read.

A verse will either invite me to repent, praise or receive or intercede for someone else. Then I listen for any thoughts He might give me about what I have just read.

Better than a commentary actually. It establishes an intimate relationship.

Some verses, of course, are just information, but it is good not to overlook those scriptures that you can interact with.

 

[yowan]

Hi...
It is indeed a state that happened to me as well..
What i did was...
Just took the bible..
Read..
Mathew completely by keeping a red pen underlining verses that touched me..
Then i moved to chapter Acts..
Then Romans....
Lik this i finished d whole new testament.. now continunin the old testa...
I really luv doing this for jesus speaks everyday through bible to me..
I m an undesreved for all such but gracefully a lucky one..
God bless u too

 

[Seifer5]

Check out this book for some advice Its free online from this website.

Philologos | How to Enjoy the Bible | E. W. Bullinger

 

[ChristIsGod]

Brother Malcyboy, in my signature is a link. If you download Everything that's free from that site - you'll have everything that you'd ever need. I seldom if ever use Commentaries but have downloaded a number of them into the e-sword anyway.

First you download the main body of it - then you go on what you've downloaded and look at the top for "Download" ... it will take you to any of the categories that you click on.
Have a field day, downloading everything he offers for free into each category and then click 'Download' again to another category - like Dictionaries and Bible versions and be sure to get anything with a "+" after it, under the Bibles category.

Be sure to get 'Treasury of Scripture Knowledge' = 'TSK' into your commentaries and a few like "Robertson's Word Pictures" because as you go along ... with the KJV+ you'll want to look up each word from the original language.
The TSK will give you many 'cross-references' to that one verse - and then when you look at the cross-references - keep up cross-referencing the cross-references given from the TSK.

Under Bibles - download the "GNT-TR+" - "Greek New Testament-Textus Receptus with Strong's numbers" and it'll give the grammar of each word as well.... then under Dictionaries, get Robinson's Morphological Analysis Codes so you can decipher the grammar of that word by the Strong's Concordance numbers and the abbreviations given in the GNT-TR+.

And after you've downloaded all that he offers under Bibles, Dictionaries & Commentaries - you'll have enough there to keep you busy for the rest of your life. Before computers, we had to spread upteen books on the table and most of these had tiny print - like the Strong's Concordance did. Needed plenty of Greek Lexicons, had to know the Grammar ourselves, had to do the cross-referencing by having Torrey's TSK in book form, etc. etc.. It was like washing cloths by hand before washing machines came out but we gladly did it.

Also - under 'Download' that's at the top of the main body that you downloaded already is "Devotions" and "Topic Notes".

"Topic Notes" are actual books that you can download and are Classics ... as from Tozer, Andrew Murray, etc etc. Ya just can't beat the Classics.

One could easily spend 16 hrs a day, just on one topic or study ... like they used to do back before this modern age of distractions from studying and most just refer to commentaries to learn or whomever they listen to.

All this for Free without a dozen or more books spread out on a big table ... who can beat it?

My only disappointment is that many are now switching to little things like their Iphones or Ipads, etc where they can't really download or buy such huge study helps / Bible Programs. That's the downside of technology.

Hope this helps.
Bless you for Wanting to study!!!

 

[Jason0047]

You should also put a #6 on that list.
Talk to others to see how many man hours they have in studying the subject, and in Greek and Hebrew writing to know if they have a more well in-depth knowledge on the subject.
We are here to help each other. Just because somebody may have a different aspect or input then you they may not be wrong. You could be right in some cases, but others could be the one that is right in cases.

One should never have an aspect I am always right, and others are wrong if they don't think the same. The bible is against this way of thinking. He who thinks he is wise, will be made to look foolish.

There are a couple of problems I have in what you said.

#1. "Being Open Minded and Checking God's Word According to Acts 17:11 is Important."
I am open minded to what the Scriptures say as per Acts 17:11 (Comparing Scripture with Scripture to see whether those things be so or not). There have been occasions where I have admitted openly online that I was wrong on a certain interpretation of a text within the Bible. But this was because God revealed such a thing to me by His Word. So no. I am not close minded.

#2. "Should Christians Stand Up For the Truth in God's Word?"
When truth is revealed to someone by the Spirit within His Word, how can any other view be right or acceptable? God is not the business of accepting or promoting false information or not caring if people don't have the correct truth or teachings within His Word. Truth is revealed by God thru His Word for those who are humble and diligent to study it (Seeking not their own truth or agenda, but God's truth and agenda - Whether that truth is something they like or not).

#3. "The Tower of Babel all over again."
I find the whole idea that you must know Hebrew and Greek in order to understand the Bible to be a false premise. God is simple. Nowhere in His Word does He ever command us to look to a dead language to understand His Word. Yes, I am not denying that Hebrew and Greek studies can be helpful at times. But one has to understand that the Hebrew and Greek is not in conflict with the perfect preserved Word of God (i.e. the KJV) within our world language today. For you either believe God's Word or.... You believe men who had created the Lexicons. However, the creator's behind the Lexicons are not infallible interpreters of truth and they never claimed their work to be inspired by God. They are men. Just like you and me. In fact, Jesus said beware of the Scribes. Scribes are those who had transcribed the Scriptures and or had written out legal documents, etc. There are many verses that say that God's Word is perfect and that it would be preserved for us. See, preserving God's Word in a language that you don't really understand without the code key of a Lexicon (invented by a man who is infallible) is not a preservation of God's Word because nobody speaks Hebrew and Greek anymore. They are dead languages. Can you understand them? Yes, based on what we know what the text says in English (Within the preserved Word of God today). But if I were to speak or write to you in Hebrew or Greek, it would be like you were at the Tower of Babel all over again (Having no real clue as to what I am saying). However, God is not the author of confusion. God is simple. When God communicates to us, we do not need a code key or some magical interpretation machine or a Lexicon, or some other revelation or book to understand His Word.

#4. "Public Online Discussion and Comment on the Bible is Open and Not Closed"
The purpose of the Online Bible Study (Regarding the Stories of the Bible) IS to openly discuss it with other believers. So to suggest that I am not being open to discussing the Scriptures with other believers (Who might know Hebrew and Greek) is something I am not against. They are more than welcome to join in on the Study here at CC. But you have to understand, that most Christians I have run into who referred to Scripture heavily in the Hebrew and Greek, I disagreed with most times because they disregard the English Translation for our day (i.e. the KJV). They trust in Lexicons and not in what the Scriptures say always at face value plainly. In other words, I do not believe the Hebrew and Greek are in conflict with the English. For not one jot or tittle shall pass away, until all will be fulfilled, my friend. Anyways, the Online Bible Study I created is open for all believers to discuss. It is not limited to just what I want to say. I created so that believers can also double check what I am saying (With Scripture), as well. For I am concerned about the truth of God's Word and what it says and I am not concerned about what your church teaches, or what some Bible College pushes, or what you personally believe. I am concerned about what the Scriptures say. I am concerned about what God would say to me, when I face Him some day.


While I love you in Christ Jesus, I think this is why we disagree a lot on Scripture.

Anyways, peace, love, and blessings be unto you.

 

[Jason0047]

Personal Studies can be challenging. You have to discipline yourself more to a set time every day without fail. However, I found making that study as a commitment with other believers gives you a strength to continue the study. That is why I chose to do an Online Bible Study this time around.

Hope this helps.

And may God bless you greatly today.

Side Note:

If an online study is not for you, I would encourage you to redouble your efforts in either finding a Bible Study Group (At another church) and or to create your own.

 

[ChristIsGod]

I only differ with your post Jason because - When We Stand Before GOD - HE Will Ask Us 'WHY We Believed What We Did About What He Has Written, And He Won't Take The Answer That "Well LORD, so & so taught me this. You know ________ , LORD ... Why - wasn't he a 'good' teacher?"

We are accountable before Him to study ourselves - to show ourselves approved because when we stand before Him He'll say - "But I left you My Word and My Spirit of Truth that I promised would lead 'you' into all truth ... but what did you do with both?"


jmo

 

[kennethcadwell]

There are a couple of problems I have in what you said.

#1. "Being Open Minded and Checking God's Word According to Acts 17:11 is Important."
I am open minded to what the Scriptures say as per Acts 17:11 (Comparing Scripture with Scripture to see whether those things be so or not). There have been occasions where I have admitted openly online that I was wrong on a certain interpretation of a text within the Bible. But this was because God revealed such a thing to me by His Word. So no. I am not close minded.

#2. "Should Christians Stand Up For the Truth in God's Word?"
When truth is revealed to someone by the Spirit within His Word, how can any other view be right or acceptable? God is not the business of accepting or promoting false information or not caring if people don't have the correct truth or teachings within His Word. Truth is revealed by God thru His Word for those who are humble and diligent to study it (Seeking not their own truth or agenda, but God's truth and agenda - Whether that truth is something they like or not).

#3. "The Tower of Babel all over again."
I find the whole idea that you must know Hebrew and Greek in order to understand the Bible to be a false premise. God is simple. Nowhere in His Word does He ever command us to look to a dead language to understand His Word. Yes, I am not denying that Hebrew and Greek studies can be helpful at times. But one has to understand that the Hebrew and Greek is not in conflict with the perfect preserved Word of God (i.e. the KJV) within our world language today. For you either believe God's Word or.... You believe men who had created the Lexicons. However, the creator's behind the Lexicons are not infallible interpreters of truth and they never claimed their work to be inspired by God. They are men. Just like you and me. In fact, Jesus said beware of the Scribes. Scribes are those who had transcribed the Scriptures and or had written out legal documents, etc. There are many verses that say that God's Word is perfect and that it would be preserved for us. See, preserving God's Word in a language that you don't really understand without the code key of a Lexicon (invented by a man who is infallible) is not a preservation of God's Word because nobody speaks Hebrew and Greek anymore. They are dead languages. Can you understand them? Yes, based on what we know what the text says in English (Within the preserved Word of God today). But if I were to speak or write to you in Hebrew or Greek, it would be like you were at the Tower of Babel all over again (Having no real clue as to what I am saying). However, God is not the author of confusion. God is simple. When God communicates to us, we do not need a code key or some magical interpretation machine or a Lexicon, or some other revelation or book to understand His Word.

#4. "Public Online Discussion and Comment on the Bible is Open and Not Closed"
The purpose of the Online Bible Study (Regarding the Stories of the Bible) IS to openly discuss it with other believers. So to suggest that I am not being open to discussing the Scriptures with other believers (Who might know Hebrew and Greek) is something I am not against. They are more than welcome to join in on the Study here at CC. But you have to understand, that most Christians I have run into who referred to Scripture heavily in the Hebrew and Greek, I disagreed with most times because they disregard the English Translation for our day (i.e. the KJV). They trust in Lexicons and not in what the Scriptures say always at face value plainly. In other words, I do not believe the Hebrew and Greek are in conflict with the English. For not one jot or tittle shall pass away, until all will be fulfilled, my friend. Anyways, the Online Bible Study I created is open for all believers to discuss. It is not limited to just what I want to say. I created so that believers can also double check what I am saying (With Scripture), as well. For I am concerned about the truth of God's Word and what it says and I am not concerned about what your church teaches, or what some Bible College pushes, or what you personally believe. I am concerned about what the Scriptures say. I am concerned about what God would say to me, when I face Him some day.


While I love you in Christ Jesus, I think this is why we disagree a lot on Scripture.

Anyways, peace, love, and blessings be unto you.

What did I say that disagrees with anything you just posted.
I am all for taking and matching up what is said to scripture, and an open mind is always needed in study.
We are to stand up for the truth in God's word, that is no doubt, but just because you may have 100's of hours in study lessons that does not mean you have the 100% true meaning. I know well known preachers that have 1,000's and 1,000's of man hours in study and are still leaning new things every day.

I myself have been corrected in areas in my studies, and went and took and study more and recognized my error and corrected the teaching. You say you are open minded, but me and others have caught you in error's in your understanding of scripture and when we point blank pointed it out to you, you still refused the correction and debated your stance and would not budge. Open minded means to take what others say to you, and study and realize they maybe correct on the issue and you were wrong.

I don't like to make it sound as though I am putting you down, or even others when I respond because I love all my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. In that love and understanding we must realize that we are not perfect, which is the part of the repentance process. Even Solomon who was considered to be very wise, made mistakes.

The Apostles to, mainly pointed out with Peter, constantly still made mistakes even though they had the Word directly from the Lord. We have to go by studies that are hampered by miss translations, writing errors, traditions and philosophies, and personal moral values corrupting the Word of God.

Love to you always, and the Lord ever with you.

 

[Jason0047]

I only differ with your post Jason because - When We Stand Before GOD - HE Will Ask Us 'WHY We Believed What We Did About What He Has Written, And He Won't Take The Answer That "Well LORD, so & so taught me this. You know ________ , LORD ... Why - wasn't he a 'good' teacher?"

We are accountable before Him to study ourselves - to show ourselves approved because when we stand before Him He'll say - "But I left you My Word and My Spirit of Truth that I promised would lead 'you' into all truth ... but what did you do with both?"


jmo

Not sure you understood what I wrote. I believe we as believers need to study to show ourselves approved unto God. A Bible Study Online or in person is not in conflict with one's study of God's Word. For it would include you in DOING RESEARCH on your own time as a part of that Bible Study with others. For surely you know of the Scriptures that talk about how the Israelite was to teach their child in the way of the Scriptures.

 

[Jason0047]

Not sure you understood what I wrote. I believe we as believers need to study to show ourselves approved unto God. A Bible Study Online or in person is not in conflict with one's study of God's Word. For it would include you in DOING RESEARCH on your own time as a part of that Bible Study with others. For surely you know of the Scriptures that talk about how the Israelite was to teach their child in the way of the Scriptures.

For you will note that in my list of 1-5 (in my post above) that "Research" is on it.

 

[SoulWeaver]

@OP:
I found out that searching the Bible for keywords and phrases - instead of only reading verse by verse - can bring amazing discoveries, especially to connect the Old and the New testament. It can also help with people who like to pull only the verses they like about something, usually to push some idea of their own. Search for the keyword and you have all the Bible says about it.

 

[ChristIsGod]

Not sure you understood what I wrote. I believe we as believers need to study to show ourselves approved unto God. A Bible Study Online or in person is not in conflict with one's study of God's Word. For it would include you in DOING RESEARCH on your own time as a part of that Bible Study with others. For surely you know of the Scriptures that talk about how the Israelite was to teach their child in the way of the Scriptures.

Just saying, that is not always the case. Not all are Berean types. Some just answer with opinions gained from some other man or just their own opinion and not His Word.

No one is omniscient but some teachers come off as if they feel that they are.

I still believe that God will ask us those questions when we see Him and one of the "books" that are open when we stand before Him will be the book we now have complete access to.

Shalom

 

[ChristIsGod]

#3. "The Tower of Babel all over again."
I find the whole idea that you must know Hebrew and Greek in order to understand the Bible to be a false premise. God is simple. Nowhere in His Word does He ever command us to look to a dead language to understand His Word. Yes, I am not denying that Hebrew and Greek studies can be helpful at times. But one has to understand that the Hebrew and Greek is not in conflict with the perfect preserved Word of God (i.e. the KJV) within our world language today. For you either believe God's Word or.... You believe men who had created the Lexicons. However, the creator's behind the Lexicons are not infallible interpreters of truth and they never claimed their work to be inspired by God. They are men. Just like you and me. In fact, Jesus said beware of the Scribes. Scribes are those who had transcribed the Scriptures and or had written out legal documents, etc. There are many verses that say that God's Word is perfect and that it would be preserved for us. See, preserving God's Word in a language that you don't really understand without the code key of a Lexicon (invented by a man who is infallible) is not a preservation of God's Word because nobody speaks Hebrew and Greek anymore. They are dead languages. Can you understand them? Yes, based on what we know what the text says in English (Within the preserved Word of God today). But if I were to speak or write to you in Hebrew or Greek, it would be like you were at the Tower of Babel all over again (Having no real clue as to what I am saying). However, God is not the author of confusion. God is simple. When God communicates to us, we do not need a code key or some magical interpretation machine or a Lexicon, or some other revelation or book to understand His Word.

Oh my, this one is so far off the mark that it almost screams out. Lexicons are merely Greek Dictionaries --- the language that GOD chose to write His Word in for a very distinct reason -- because unlike any other native tongue of our times - it was / is the most EXACT language in all of history.

Just what I posted to our brother about just one of the many computer programs that are out there - makes translating the Greek as easy as looking up any word & it's grammar and where used and how it's used and so forth - as easy as looking up any English language book. Lexicons will have up to 10 or more volumes with countless pages of the history of the word, how it was used in every case in history.

God sent Jesus "in the fullness of time" and when Koine Greek was the international language during that time was one of the fulfillments of that "fullness of time" because it was the most exact language in history and to fight heresy, as the Apostles did in the Greek NT and as men have since then - they've Had To go to the original language and the language was what preserved sound doctrine for these 2000+ yrs - as the OT was also put into that international language approx 300 BC ... and that's what the people of Israel of read - the Septuagint.

The e-sword is sufficient enough for any student of the Word and to dissuade anyone from studying in the original language is to say that GOD chose to use the wrong language to write His Word in.

Sorry - but on this I have to very strongly disagree.

 

[Jason0047]

What did I say that disagrees with anything you just posted.
I am all for taking and matching up what is said to scripture, and an open mind is always needed in study.
We are to stand up for the truth in God's word, that is no doubt, but just because you may have 100's of hours in study lessons that does not mean you have the 100% true meaning. I know well known preachers that have 1,000's and 1,000's of man hours in study and are still leaning new things every day.

I myself have been corrected in areas in my studies, and went and took and study more and recognized my error and corrected the teaching. You say you are open minded, but me and others have caught you in error's in your understanding of scripture and when we point blank pointed it out to you, you still refused the correction and debated your stance and would not budge. Open minded means to take what others say to you, and study and realize they maybe correct on the issue and you were wrong.

First, you act like you and others (that you agree with) have the Truth and I do not. I shared the idea in joining in an online Bible Study and you had to start acting all high and mighty about knowing more than me (By what you said). See, that is the difference between us. If our roles were reversed, I would never do that to you (Even though we disagree strongly on a wide variety of topics concerning the Bible).

Anyways, to clarify what I believe for our other readers here:

I believe in the Trinity.
I believe Jesus is God Almighty in the flesh.
I believe the Bible is perfect & the divinely inspired Word of God (i.e. the Englisn (in the KJV), Latin (Not the Catholic Latin Bible), Greek, and Hebrew).
I believe Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins, was placed within a tomb, was resurrected 3 days later, and then ascended up to the Father to obtain eternal redemption for us (After having told Mary to touch Him not).
I believe Christians must live righteously (i.e. Meaning a Christian cannot abide in unrepentant sin and be saved).
I believe we are saved by God's grace and not by works (Ephesians 2:8-9). Meaning, I am not justiifed by Law keeping but in trusting in Jesus Christ as my Savior. If one slips up into sin, they confess their sin and get their heart right with God. We are not saved by works because God does the work within a person. For Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith.
I believe the New Testament replaces the Old Testament as far as Commands (or Law).
I believe we are justified by faith and not Law keeping. Law keeping is merely the proof or evidence that you have been saved.
Salvation is a person named Jesus Christ.
Salvation is not a "To Do List."
God will naturally convict a believer who is born again to abide in Him (Who is the source of salvation).
I believe in walking by faith and not by sight. Meaning, I strive not base decisions on external circumstances but I strive to make my life line up with what the Word of God says.

Second, instead of using Scripture to refute the points I made, you just spout off your opinion (Which doesn't hold any weight unless there is some kind of Scripture involved).

I don't like to make it sound as though I am putting you down,

I am sorry, my friend. That is exactly what you are doing. You are putting me down.

or even others when I respond because I love all my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. In that love and understanding we must realize that we are not perfect, which is the part of the repentance process. Even Solomon who was considered to be very wise, made mistakes.

Yes, we are not perfect. But with God's help, we can be made perfect and or conformed to Christ's image (So as to give Him all the glory). For you have to realize that I do not seek my own church, or glory, or anything like that. I seek to glorify Jesus Christ when I study His Word.

The Apostles to, mainly pointed out with Peter, constantly still made mistakes even though they had the Word directly from the Lord. We have to go by studies that are hampered by miss translations, writing errors, traditions and philosophies, and personal moral values corrupting the Word of God.

Love to you always, and the Lord ever with you.

Personal...Moral....Values. I know what you are probably referring to. You believe it is okay for God to tell Hosea to marry a prostitute, when the Word of God (KJV) doesn't even say that (And despite the fact that it would be a violation of God's own Law). You believe it is okay to kill in self defense, when Jesus gave us no indication that we could really do so.

As for Mistranslations: There is no such thing as mistranslations in God's divinely inspired Word (KJV). You either believe it is God's Holy Word or you don't believe it it is Holy. Something that is Holy is perfect and free of error. You can't call it Holy and then turn it around and say it is not. That is double talk. God's Word claims that it is perfect. I believe that and take it by faith (like one would take every word of God by faith). We are not to correct the Word of God, we are to let God's Word correct us.

As for Traditions: That is exactly what I believe most Christians today are being influenced by. That is why it is important to study to show yourself approved unto God on your own time and not just believe whatever our Pastor, or churches, Bible Colleges, Lexicons teach just because they say so.

 

[ChristIsGod]

Adding to this post - http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/102424-bible-study-tips.html#post1760267



The KJV is not "perfect" but it's what I use and read. The KJV is not in the perfect language that GOD used to write the Scriptures.

Yes, He can speak through any version of our native tongue, whatever language that may be - but all DOCTRINE since Christ and His Apostles had to be delivered through the Greek and is derived from that language that HE chose, because it is the most EXACT language in history and chose the times when it was to send His Son for a omniscient reason.

This #3 of your post should truly be re-thought-out, as it borders on a questioning of GOD's Omniscience like none that I've seen elsewhere.

 

[Jason0047]

Oh my, this one is so far off the mark that it almost screams out. Lexicons are merely Greek Dictionaries --- the language that GOD chose to write His Word in for a very distinct reason -- because unlike any other native tongue of our times - it was / is the most EXACT language in all of history.

Just what I posted to our brother about just one of the many computer programs that are out there - makes translating the Greek as easy as looking up any word & it's grammar and where used and how it's used and so forth - as easy as looking up any English language book. Lexicons will have up to 10 or more volumes with countless pages of the history of the word, how it was used in every case in history.

God sent Jesus "in the fullness of time" and when Koine Greek was the international language during that time was one of the fulfillments of that "fullness of time" because it was the most exact language in history and to fight heresy, as the Apostles did in the Greek NT and as men have since then - they've Had To go to the original language and the language was what preserved sound doctrine for these 2000+ yrs - as the OT was also put into that international language approx 300 BC ... and that's what the people of Israel of read - the Septuagint.

The e-sword is sufficient enough for any student of the Word and to dissuade anyone from studying in the original language is to say that GOD chose to use the wrong language to write His Word in.

Sorry - but on this I have to very strongly disagree.[/COLOR]

#1. "Lexicons are not perfect like God's Word."
I used to be a big fan of Lexicons. But you have to understand they are NOT divinely inspired & perfect like God's Word (KJV).

#2. "Lexicons are imperfect tools that can sometimes be helpful."
I am not against the use of Lexicons on rare occasion. They can at times be helpful.

#3. "You did not repent hearing the Word in Hebrew or Greek."
While I am not against Hebrew and Greek studies, I am against the popular idea that one MUST learn Hebrew and Greek in order to understand God's Word. So while I do look up Hebrew and Greek words on occasion, I don't always find them to be reliable in every case or instance. While I may use Lexicons, I do NOT believe the Hebrew and Greek conflicts with the English (KJV).


I believe God is simple and He doesn't make things complicated for us whereby we need to jump thru a bunch of hoops to understand what He is saying. Every Word of God is pure and can be understood if we study.