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Is it biblical to call someone a fool ? Why or Why not
 
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Tintin

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Is it biblical to call someone a fool ? Why or Why not
Calling someone a fool was the equivalent of saying to someone, "Go to Hell!" and really meaning it.
 

Blain

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Because you are saying that a person is worthless and God created everything.
Calling someone a fool isn't saying they are worthless. What dictionary are you using?
I don't really know or care if its biblical I can't bring myself to call someone a fool
 
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Fool to me is like calling someone an idiot or moron...in only use it when some hurts someone and make an excuse for it...but I don't use it often though
 

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"O foolish Galatians!"

I think it also depends on the intention behind the words.
 
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Matthew 5:22 "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."
 
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phil112

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Here is what Adam Clarke says about that scripture.

Verse 22. "Whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause" - Æo orgizomenov-eikh, who is vainly incensed. "This translation is literal; and the very objectionable phrase, without a cause, is left out, eikh being more properly translated by that above." What our Lord seems here to prohibit, is not merely that miserable facility which some have of being angry at every trifle, continually taking offense against their best friends; but that anger which leads a man to commit outrages against another, thereby subjecting himself to that punishment which was to be inflicted on those who break the peace. eikh, vainly, or, as in the common translation, without a cause, is wanting in the famous Vatican MS. and two others, the Ethiopic, latter Arabic, Saxon, Vulgate, two copies of the old Itala, J.
Martyr, Ptolomeus, Origen, Tertullian, and by all the ancient copies quoted by St. Jerome. It was probably a marginal gloss originally, which in process of time crept into the text.
"Shall be in danger of the judgment" - enocov estai, shall be liable to the judgment. That is, to have the matter brought before a senate, composed of twenty-three magistrates, whose business it was to judge in cases of murder and other capital crimes. It punished criminals by strangling or beheading; but Dr. Lightfoot supposes the judgment of God to be intended. See at the end of this chapter.
"Raca" - hqyr from the Hebrew qr rak, to be empty. It signifies a vain, empty, worthless fellow, shallow brains, a term of great contempt. Such expressions were punished among the Gentoos by a heavy fine. See all the cases, Code of Gentoo Laws, chap. xv sec. 2.
"The council" - sunedrion, the famous council, known among the Jews by the name of Sanhedrin. It was composed of seventy-two elders, six chosen out of each tribe. This grand Sanhedrin not only received appeals from the inferior Sanhedrins, or court of twenty-three mentioned above; but could alone take cognizance, in the first instance, of the highest crimes, and alone inflict the punishment of stoning.
"Thou fool" - Moreh, probably from hrm marah, to rebel, a rebel against God, apostate from all good. This term implied, among the Jews, the highest enormity, and most aggravated guilt. Among the Gentoos, such an expression was punished by cutting out the tongue, and thrusting a hot iron, of ten fingers breadth, into the mouth of the person who used it.
Code of Gentoo Laws, chap. xv sec. 2. p. 212.
"Shall be in danger of hell fire." - enocov estai eiv thn geennan tou purov, shall be liable to the hell of fire. Our Lord here alludes to the valley of the son of Hinnom, µnh yg Ghi hinom. This place was near Jerusalem, and had been formerly used for those abominable sacrifices, in which the idolatrous Jews had caused their children to pass through the fire to Molech. A particular place in this valley was called Tophet, from tpt tophet, the fire stove, in which some supposed they burnt their children alive to the above idol. See 2 Kings xxiii. 10; 2 Chron. xxviii. 3; Jeremiah vii. 31, 32. From the circumstances of this valley having been the scene of those infernal sacrifices, the Jews, in our saviour's time, used the word for hell, the place of the damned. See the word applied in this sense by the Targum, on Ruth ii. 12; Psa. cxl. 12; Gen. iii. 24; xv. 17. It is very probable that our Lord means no more here than this: if a man charge another with apostasy from the Jewish religion, or rebellion against God, and cannot prove his charge, then he is exposed to that punishment (burning alive) which the other must have suffered, if the charge had been substantiated. There are three kinds of offenses here, which exceed each other in their degrees of guilt. 1st. Anger against a man, accompanied with some injurious act. 2dly. Contempt, expressed by the opprobrious epithet raka, or shallow brains. 3dly. Hatred and mortal enmity, expressed by the term moreh, or apostate, where such apostasy could not be proved. Now, proportioned to these three offenses were three different degrees of punishment, each exceeding the other in its severity, as the offenses exceeded each other in their different degrees of guilt. 1st. The judgment, the council of twenty-three, which could inflict the punishment of strangling. 2dly. The Sanhedrin, or great council, which could inflict the punishment of stoning. And 3dly. The being burnt alive in the valley of the son of Hinnom. This appears to be the meaning of our Lord. Now, if the above offenses were to be so severely punished, which did not immediately affect the life of another, how much sorer must the punishment of murder be! ver. 21. And as there could not be a greater punishment inflicted than death, in the above terrific forms, and this was to be inflicted for minor crimes; then the punishment of murder must not only have death here, but a hell of fire in the eternal world, attached to it. It seems that these different degrees of guilt, and the punishment attached to each, had not been properly distinguished among the Jews. Our Lord here calls their attention back to them, and gives then to understand, that in the coming world there are different degrees of punishment prepared for different degrees of vice; and that not only the outward act of iniquity should be judged and punished by the Lord, but that injurious words, and evil passions, should all meet their just recompense and reward. Murder is the most punishable of all crimes, according to the written law, in respect both of our neighbours and civil society. But he who sees the heart, and judges it by the eternal law, punishes as much a word or a desire, if the hatred whence they proceed be complete and perfected. Dr. Lightfoot has some curious observations on this passage in the preface to his Harmony of the Evangelists. See his works, vol. ii., and the conclusion of this chapter

Adam Clarke's Bible Commentary - Matthew 5
 
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Matthew 5:22 "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."

Was just about to post that...
 
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Calling someone a fool isn't saying they are worthless. What dictionary are you using?
I don't really know or care if its biblical I can't bring myself to call someone a fool
Think of the phrase," You worthless old fool" or " You are worthless as a old fool", you are considering that person of being worthless as you would a fool.

Matthew 5:22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca (Aramaic word reka)’ is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.

James 1:5 If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you.



  1. Foolishness

  2. Foolishness is the lack or failure of wisdom and of making proper careful choices. In this sense, it differs from stupidity, which is the lack of intelligence. An act of foolishness is called folly. Foolish talk is called stultiloquence.

    Raca [N] [H]
    vain, empty, worthless, only found in Matthew 5:22 . The Jews used it as a word of contempt. It is derived from a root
    meaning "to spit."


    “He who thinks half-heartedly will not believe in God; but he who really thinks has to believe in God.”





 
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Is it biblical to call someone a fool ? Why or Why not
Galatians 3:3
Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

Psalm 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
 
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psychomom

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in the context i'm guessing the OP means...

it's murder, ain't it?
:confused:
 

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Is it biblical to call someone a fool ? Why or Why not
It is biblical to do most anything but not everything is profitable. Calling someone a fool is passing a judgment on someone. The bible warns against doing this as it would be a foolish thing to do.
 
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sassylady

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We don't need to call anybody a fool, God already did for reasons in the scripture it pertains to.
 

Blain

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Think of the phrase," You worthless old fool" or " You are worthless as a old fool", you are considering that person of being worthless as you would a fool.

Matthew 5:22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca (Aramaic word reka)’ is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.

James 1:5 If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you.



  1. Foolishness

  2. Foolishness is the lack or failure of wisdom and of making proper careful choices. In this sense, it differs from stupidity, which is the lack of intelligence. An act of foolishness is called folly. Foolish talk is called stultiloquence.

    Raca [N] [H]
    vain, empty, worthless, only found in Matthew 5:22 . The Jews used it as a word of contempt. It is derived from a root
    meaning "to spit."


    “He who thinks half-heartedly will not believe in God; but he who really thinks has to believe in God.”





your kidding right? the definition of fool that you posted said nothing about being worthless and you can call someone a worthless fool but if fool meant worthless why did you have to say worthless fool?
 
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Calling someone a fool isn't saying they are worthless. What dictionary are you using?
I don't really know or care if its biblical I can't bring myself to call someone a fool
Why did Jesus call people fools ?:confused:
[h=1]Matthew 23:16-17King James Version (KJV)[/h]16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
 
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ELECT

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We don't need to call anybody a fool, God already did for reasons in the scripture it pertains to.
so if someone acts according to the scriptures are we justified to call them fools ?
 
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psychomom

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expanding on Phil's thought...

Mt 5:21-22

You have heard that the ancients were told, ‘YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER’ and ‘Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.’

But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.

Jesus is making a direct correlation between murder...and anger.
between murder...and calling someone a fool.

He's saying it all deserves the same judgement.

 
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ELECT

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expanding on Phil's thought...

Mt 5:21-22

You have heard that the ancients were told, ‘YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER’ and ‘Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.’

But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.

Jesus is making a direct correlation between murder...and anger.
between murder...and calling someone a fool.

He's saying it all deserves the same judgement.

[h=1]Luke 24:25King James Version (KJV)[/h]25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
 
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psychomom

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Luke 24:25King James Version (KJV)

25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
'k...well, there's a difference between calling someone a name (the point of the Mt verses),
and Christ's accurate description of someone as 'foolish', which is the
actual Greek word used there.

Greek word used in Mt 5:
Strong's--
rhaka: empty (an expression of contempt)

Greek word used in Luke 24:
Strong's--
anoétos: not understanding