If Man Has No Role In His Own Salvation......
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Well, your premise is wrong.
Salvation has existed from the beginning of time, long before humans were created by God. To assume that a mortal has any role in salvation when such mortal was not even a created being is a faulty premise.
For example, just because a Teen drives a Ford, doesn't mean that Teen had a "role" in the design and manufacturing of the vehicle. Furthermore, if I chose never to drive any vehicle, that decision has no bearing upon, and is completely irrelevant to, the car industry, does it?
Chuck Swindoll once said "Anything under God's control is never out-of-control."
Chuck also said, "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me, and 90% how I react to it, and so it is with you... we are in charge of our attitudes."
That's all.
Our response to God's salvation is the extend of our attitude: we either agree with God 100%, or we don't. To God be the glory, for great things He has done.
Salvation has existed from the beginning of time, long before humans were created by God. To assume that a mortal has any role in salvation when such mortal was not even a created being is a faulty premise.
For example, just because a Teen drives a Ford, doesn't mean that Teen had a "role" in the design and manufacturing of the vehicle. Furthermore, if I chose never to drive any vehicle, that decision has no bearing upon, and is completely irrelevant to, the car industry, does it?
Chuck Swindoll once said "Anything under God's control is never out-of-control."
Chuck also said, "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me, and 90% how I react to it, and so it is with you... we are in charge of our attitudes."
That's all.
Our response to God's salvation is the extend of our attitude: we either agree with God 100%, or we don't. To God be the glory, for great things He has done.
"God does as he pleases with the powers of heaven and the peoples of the earth.
No one can hold back his had or say to him: 'What have you done?' " (Da 4:35)
God commanded Pharoah to obey him, and also foretold Moses that he would harden Pharoah's heart
so that (intention/purpose) he would not obey him (Ex 4:21).
Yet, repentance is a gift of God (2Tim 2:25 Ac 11:18, 5:31) which he does not give to every one.
"Man" is not in the Greek text and has been added in your translation.
If one is to add a word to Heb 2:9, it must agree with the whole counsel of God.
The word "son" agrees with the whole counsel of God.
Christ died for every son of God.
Your conclusion is based on an incomplete and, therefore, faulty premise.
Because you have not included the whole counsel of God.
No one can hold back his had or say to him: 'What have you done?' " (Da 4:35)
God commanded Pharoah to obey him, and also foretold Moses that he would harden Pharoah's heart
so that (intention/purpose) he would not obey him (Ex 4:21).
Yet, repentance is a gift of God (2Tim 2:25 Ac 11:18, 5:31) which he does not give to every one.
"Man" is not in the Greek text and has been added in your translation.
If one is to add a word to Heb 2:9, it must agree with the whole counsel of God.
The word "son" agrees with the whole counsel of God.
Christ died for every son of God.
Your conclusion is based on an incomplete and, therefore, faulty premise.
Because you have not included the whole counsel of God.
You forgot few....
The grace of God that brings salvation has shined down upon ALL mankind.....
God has dealt to everyman a MEASURE of faith<---of God
Faith is a spiritual gift<----of God
Jesus died on the cross to fulfill the will of the Father<---of God
The Father saves dia Jesus<---of God
God forgives sin dia Jesus<-----Of God
Holy Spirit seals unto the day of redemption<---Of God
Blood of Christ paid the price<---Of God
It is all OF/FROM GOD and until you lay down your own abilities, the picture of water and Campbellite doctrine you will never understand the simplicity that is in Christ.......!
You will never understand that it is God that
1. Calls men
2. Convicts men
3. Enlightens men
4. Saves men
5. Justifies men
6. Sanctifies men
7. Eternally seals men
8. Transposes men into his SPIRITUAL KINGDOM
through the SIMPLE act of faith......!
Now read carefully........and slowly......IT PLEASED GOD BY THE FOOLISHNESS OF PREACHING TO SAVE THEM THAT BELIEVE!
GOD is the one who SPIRITUALLY GIVES the ability to BELIEVE as FAITH IS A GIFT!
The grace of God that brings salvation has shined down upon ALL mankind.....
God has dealt to everyman a MEASURE of faith<---of God
Faith is a spiritual gift<----of God
Jesus died on the cross to fulfill the will of the Father<---of God
The Father saves dia Jesus<---of God
God forgives sin dia Jesus<-----Of God
Holy Spirit seals unto the day of redemption<---Of God
Blood of Christ paid the price<---Of God
It is all OF/FROM GOD and until you lay down your own abilities, the picture of water and Campbellite doctrine you will never understand the simplicity that is in Christ.......!
You will never understand that it is God that
1. Calls men
2. Convicts men
3. Enlightens men
4. Saves men
5. Justifies men
6. Sanctifies men
7. Eternally seals men
8. Transposes men into his SPIRITUAL KINGDOM
through the SIMPLE act of faith......!
Now read carefully........and slowly......IT PLEASED GOD BY THE FOOLISHNESS OF PREACHING TO SAVE THEM THAT BELIEVE!
GOD is the one who SPIRITUALLY GIVES the ability to BELIEVE as FAITH IS A GIFT!
all that is required of man is obedience.....
Romans 16:26
But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
James 2:20
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
James 1:22
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.Acts 5:32
And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
Hebrews 5:9
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Romans 16:26
But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
James 2:20
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
James 1:22
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.Acts 5:32
And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
Hebrews 5:9
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
O
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Judgment = 3,000 were slain.
Mercy = 3,000 were saved
EXODUS 32:28.
So the sons of Levi did according to the word of Moses. And about 3,000 men of the people fell that day.
ACTS 2:41.
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
EZ.18:25.
Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel;
Is not My way equal? are not your ways unequal?
Judgment = 3,000 were slain.
Mercy = 3,000 were saved
EXODUS 32:28.
So the sons of Levi did according to the word of Moses. And about 3,000 men of the people fell that day.
ACTS 2:41.
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
EZ.18:25.
Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel;
Is not My way equal? are not your ways unequal?
Enter into what? The kingdom of heaven! Why do they enter into the kingdom of heaven by the broad path of destruction? Because they do not believe that if no man has a role in his own salvation, then all men will be saved.
Jesus is risen never to die again. We therefore are the children who enter in by destruction. I've been advocating the riddance of money for a whole now as the first step in us finding the narrow path, but we love bills, debt and death.
Jesus is risen never to die again. We therefore are the children who enter in by destruction. I've been advocating the riddance of money for a whole now as the first step in us finding the narrow path, but we love bills, debt and death.
If man has no role in his own salvation then God is at fault, culpable for those that are lost and saved. God causes men to be saved or lost against man's own will. Yet in my OP I showed God does not cause men to be lost against his own will but God desires the wicked to repent and live, all men come to repentance. So if man has no role in his own salvation then God will save all men > Universalism.
Well, your premise is wrong.
Salvation has existed from the beginning of time, long before humans were created by God. To assume that a mortal has any role in salvation when such mortal was not even a created being is a faulty premise.
For example, just because a Teen drives a Ford, doesn't mean that Teen had a "role" in the design and manufacturing of the vehicle. Furthermore, if I chose never to drive any vehicle, that decision has no bearing upon, and is completely irrelevant to, the car industry, does it?
Chuck Swindoll once said "Anything under God's control is never out-of-control."
Chuck also said, "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me, and 90% how I react to it, and so it is with you... we are in charge of our attitudes."
That's all.
Our response to God's salvation is the extend of our attitude: we either agree with God 100%, or we don't. To God be the glory, for great things He has done.
Salvation has existed from the beginning of time, long before humans were created by God. To assume that a mortal has any role in salvation when such mortal was not even a created being is a faulty premise.
For example, just because a Teen drives a Ford, doesn't mean that Teen had a "role" in the design and manufacturing of the vehicle. Furthermore, if I chose never to drive any vehicle, that decision has no bearing upon, and is completely irrelevant to, the car industry, does it?
Chuck Swindoll once said "Anything under God's control is never out-of-control."
Chuck also said, "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me, and 90% how I react to it, and so it is with you... we are in charge of our attitudes."
That's all.
Our response to God's salvation is the extend of our attitude: we either agree with God 100%, or we don't. To God be the glory, for great things He has done.
SInce salvation is "out of man's control" and God desires all men to be saved (see my OP) the GOd will saved all men, Universalism.