PRAY THAT GOD DESTROY OUR ENEMIES

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ELECT

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#21
It's not that I am unable there are plenty of scriptures to use in fact there is one scripture in the bible that disproves your whole thing but if you don't know then maybe read the gospels again. it doesn't make sense to you and that's fine but I don't use scripture like you do i use to help others not prove i am right and you are wrong.
please post the verse thank you i thought you are her to help those that may feel they are right but they may be wrong ?
 
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#22
There are times when you must pray that God will take away your anger, and accept that vindication will be paid in full on the Last Day.

Let God be Judge, and pray FOR (not against) your enemies, that they would repent and turn to Christ.
will all persons repent ?
Do you believe that their are persons that will never change from their wicked ways ?
 

SoulWeaver

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I thought devils were our and God's enemies?
 
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ELECT

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I thought our enemies were devils?
how reathest thou ? Was Paul wrong do indirectly ask God to do this ? does not the devil have children ?

[h=1]Acts 13:8-12King James Version (KJV)[/h]8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith.
9 Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him.
10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?
11 And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand.
12 Then the deputy, when he saw what was done, believed, being astonished at the doctrine of the Lord.
 

posthuman

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How readesth Thou ?


in this manner do i read:

Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
in which findest thou faith? the judge who feared nuisance above God? the widow whose hope wast satisfied by neither God nor her first petition? sir, i read that we ought entreat in faith!

how readest thou?

Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth,
and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:
Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him.
Fret not thyself because of evil men,
neither be thou envious at the wicked;
For there shall be no reward to the evil man; the candle of the wicked shall be put out.

(Proverbs 24:17-20)


:)

 

SoulWeaver

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ELECT, I mixed up my sentence in what you quoted (not a native speaker). I edited later to say what I intended it to say.
Idk about all that which you bring up. I pray against the devils and demons because I'm sure that's the right thing to do... for "people enemies" I am not so sure it would be what God wants me to do, so I pray for them to come to the knowledge of the truth.
 
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ELECT

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in this manner do i read:



in which findest thou faith? the judge who feared nuisance above God? the widow whose hope wast satisfied by neither God nor her first petition? sir, i read that we ought entreat in faith!

how readest thou?

Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth,
and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:
Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him.
Fret not thyself because of evil men,
neither be thou envious at the wicked;
For there shall be no reward to the evil man; the candle of the wicked shall be put out.

(Proverbs 24:17-20)


:)

how readesth thou ?

[h=1]Proverbs 25:21-22King James Version (KJV)[/h]21 If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink:
22 For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the Lord shall reward thee.


 
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ELECT, I mixed up my sentence in what you quoted (not a native speaker). I edited later to say what I intended it to say.
Idk about all that which you bring up. I pray against the devils and demons because I'm sure that's the right thing to do... for "people enemies" I am not so sure it would be what God wants me to do, so I pray for them to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Do you believe that their are some that will never come to the truth ?
 

posthuman

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how readesth thou ?

Proverbs 25:21-22King James Version (KJV)

21 If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink:
22 For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the Lord shall reward thee.


loving mercy, and believing the Lord is just :)
 
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ELECT

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in this manner do i read:



in which findest thou faith? the judge who feared nuisance above God? the widow whose hope wast satisfied by neither God nor her first petition? sir, i read that we ought entreat in faith!

how readest thou?

Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth,
and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:
Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him.
Fret not thyself because of evil men,
neither be thou envious at the wicked;
For there shall be no reward to the evil man; the candle of the wicked shall be put out.

(Proverbs 24:17-20)


:)

o well then the verse helps me to understand the widow was indeed satified by God in the present and not only will be in the future

you should try reading it again shall not God avenge His elect who cry day and night though He bears with them avenge speedily not future long time get it
 

Blain

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please post the verse thank you i thought you are her to help those that may feel they are right but they may be wrong ?
So you don't recall Jesus specifically saying to pray for our enemies?
 
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ELECT

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loving mercy, and believing the Lord is just :)
interesting that this what many say is in the new was in the old God say s a time to love a time to hate

many christians cannot dicern that time time



Moses was the meekest man yet He prayed for Israel yet he pray that God will destroy the rebels

I not He a model for us also ?
 

djness

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This is ridiculous and it's no wonder the author of Hebrews had to write

[h=1]Hebrews 6:1King James Version (KJV)[/h]6 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

How is this even a real question that anyone who has been saved more then one day would even ask?

 

Blain

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Mathew 5:44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
 
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ELECT

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So you don't recall Jesus specifically saying to pray for our enemies?
So did paul disobey God ?

Why did not paul pray for him
[h=1]2 Timothy 4:14King James Version (KJV)[/h]14 Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:
 

SoulWeaver

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ELECT, whether somebody will come to the truth or not or repent maybe on their deathbed, it is not given to me to know. (Maybe some are given and know this for every individual... but I really dont) I pray for everyone who doesnt know God to come to Jesus. God bless
 

posthuman

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o well then the verse helps me to understand the widow was indeed satified by God in the present and not only will be in the future

you should try reading it again shall not God avenge His elect who cry day and night though He bears with them avenge speedily not future long time get it
how much more just is our Father than the unjust judge! :D

6 And the Lord said, Hear what the unjust judge saith.
7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
8I tell you that he will avenge them speedily.

He will indeed avenge His own elect -- but He doth bear long with them, because His mercy is great in longsuffering patience (!) :)

i read that the saints cry "how long?" -- knowing the time is appointed.

They cried out with a loud voice,
“O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”

(Revelation 6:10)
 

Blain

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So did paul disobey God ?

Why did not paul pray for him
[h=1]2 Timothy 4:14King James Version (KJV)[/h]14 Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:
your kidding right? this scripture says nothing about paul praying that God would harm his enemies, God is the righteous judge and only he has a say in who to be punished. what on earth gave you the idea to pray God punish your enemies from this verse?
 
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Mathew 5:44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
was this written in the old ?
 
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your kidding right? this scripture says nothing about paul praying that God would harm his enemies, God is the righteous judge and only he has a say in who to be punished. what on earth gave you the idea to pray God punish your enemies from this verse?
i asked why did not paul pray for him God says love your enemies right