It's the blood of the Lamb

BradC · Nov 19, 2014

This is the message that is never to get old and it is the continual basis for our maturity and perfection in Christ. Christ paid for sin and it is his righteousness that dwells within the believer and not their own. The vision and scene in heaven that the apostle John received was all about the Lamb and the blood of that Lamb. Our priesthood and ability to pray is based upon the blood of that Lamb. God's wrath will be poured out upon the earth because the Lamb was slain and man is without excuse in his unbelief. Our understanding of the law of the New Covenant must be based upon the blood of the Lamb. The new song that will be sung in heaven by all those who were redeemed upon the earth will be about the blood of the Lamb. To serve the living God can only be done through the blood of the Lamb. When we lift up Christ it is because of his shed blood. When we have communion and fellowship with one another, it is solely based upon that shed blood. Our gospel that we are to continually preach in all the world is a gospel of the shed blood of Christ, the Lamb of God that taketh away the sin of the world.

Skinski7 · Nov 19, 2014

BradC said:

Christ paid for sin and it is his righteousness that dwells within the believer and not their own?

Where does the Bible teach that?

The Bible says this...

Pro 11:5 The righteousness of the perfect shall direct his way: but the wicked shall fall by his own wickedness.
Pro 11:6 The righteousness of the upright shall deliver them: but transgressors shall be taken in their own naughtiness.

Righteousness is simply DOING the right thing...

1Jn 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

Jesus DID the right thing and His saints DO the right thing also. Yet what you are proclaiming is some notion that righteousness is some ethereal substance of some kind which can be transferred from one person to another. Have you ever honestly and rationally examined that contention?

Wickedness and righteousness are moral issues. Vice and virtue cannot be transferred from one person to another. One person cannot transfer their vice or virtue to another. That does not make logical sense. Think about it.

In Romans Paul wrote...

Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

God counts FAITH as righteousness. There is no transfer. Faith simply works by love (Gal 5:6) and therefore love works no ill (Rom 13:10).

This notion that the virtue of Jesus is transferred to other people is irrational fantasy and it make those proclaiming it look like fools.

We are made the righteousness of God in Christ because this is the present manifest state of abiding in the Spirit of His life. In other words virtue is produced in those who are wholeheartedly yielded to the leading of God. That is why Paul would claim to be crucified with Christ and that Christ lived through Him.

There is no such thing as a transfer of virtue. Virtue is not transferable. Virtue is a standard of conduct. Virtue is rooted in a pure heart, virtue is rooted in love.

Why is the simplicity of the plain truth so ignored and exchanged with fantastical irrationality?

Here is what the Bible teaches...

Rom_10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

The context of "establishing their own righteousness" is those who IGNORED God's standard and set up their own standard. The will of God is that we ABIDE or YIELD OURSELVES to God's standard and through doing that we are made righteous. No transfer, rather a TRANSFORMATION.

Is that so hard to grasp?

notuptome · Nov 19, 2014

2 Corinthians 5:21 only the righteousness of God is good enough. Mans righteousness is as filthy rags before God.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Skinski7 · Nov 19, 2014

Paul wrote this...

Php 3:8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
Php 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
Php 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

and this...

Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

The righteousness of the law is fulfilled IN us when we WALK after the Spirit. We are made righteous through faith when we fellowship with the sufferings of Christ. In other words this happens...

Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

The service of sin ends and we instead serve righteousness...

Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Rom 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

There is no transfer. The transfer doctrine is a myth. The transfer doctrine is an imagination. The transfer doctrine is an irrational fantasy which people can use to excuse manifest unrighteousness. People can use the transfer doctrine to claim they are "positionally" righteous whilst they are "manifestly" wicked. To buy into the logic of the transfer doctrine is pure foolishness, it is stupidity.

By suffering with Christ through His death we die to sin. This is a picture of repentance and endurance. This is why Peter would write...

1Pe 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
1Pe 4:2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.

We identify ourselves with the mind of Christ and WALK in the same manner. It is in doing that that the sin stops for we no longer walk according to the lusts of the flesh like we used to. We rule over the lusts of the flesh by walking according to the Spirit.

Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

This is what the Galatians lost their focus on when they were entertaining physical circumcision as being necessary. They were substituting the letter of the law in place of the spirit. This is why Paul would write...

Gal 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
Gal 5:2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
Gal 5:3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Gal 5:5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
Gal 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
Gal 5:7 Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth?

The Galatians were moving into a state where it would be "rules and regulations" which governed their conduct as opposed to a "faith that works by love."

Genuine righteousness (or genuine right conduct) flows from a heart that loves.

Jesus taught...

Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

Jesus taught...

Luk 10:25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
Luk 10:26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
Luk 10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
Luk 10:28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

Mar 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?
Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mar 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

The standard of God is LOVE. God doesn't transfer that standard to us by some irrational and fantastical credit. No! We meet that standard by abiding IN Him. The fantastical transfer doctrine is pretend, it is a farce, it would be funny if people were not being damned through buying into it.

Jesus said...

Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Jesus didn't say "His righteousness" but "OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS." Jesus then immediately then went on to teach about inward righteousness verses a mere outward form by using the examples of hate in the heart being murder and lust in the heart being adultery. Our hearts must be pure.

Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

Jesus didn't die to "pay for our sins" either. Jesus died to present a means by which we would die with Him and be made the righteousness of God through abiding in the Spirit of His life, which we are raised up into following repentance. Peter wrote...

1Pe 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
1Pe 2:22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
1Pe 2:23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:
1Pe 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Jesus bore our sins that we might die to sin and therefore live unto righteousness. The blood of Jesus Christ is what enjoins us into covenant with God (Heb 9:20) IF we approach God in the correct manner through repentance and faith. It is the means of being granted a fresh start. A fresh start where we ARE actually righteous because we DO the will of God because we are no longer in rebellion. When we approach God we present ourselves as living sacrifices and therefore we place ourselves on the altar and the blood of Christ is poured onto the mercy seat and onto us and we are cleansed from all sin. That is what the Bible teaches.

All this wrath substitution stuff and transferable righteousness is an evil deception utlilised as a means to convince an individual that they can keep sinning and not surely die because they can take comfort that some kind of transfer took place. Don't buy it. That doctrine will condemn you to hell for it neutralises the true teachings of the Bible in the mind of those who believe it.

We must study to show ourselves approved. We must diligently seek God. We must treat the words of Jesus seriously and not blow them off.

dcontroversal · Nov 19, 2014

Skinski7 said:

Romans 3:21-26

Maybe if you trusted Christ and his righteousness instead of your own you would see the truth of what is asked in your question....

ALL of our RIGHTEOUSNESSES are as FILTHY RAGS and our INIQUITIES like the wind have TAKEN US AWAY!

GracethroughfaithinChrist · Nov 19, 2014

Job 9:20
If I justify myself, mine own mouth shall condemn me: if I say, I am perfect, it shall also prove me perverse.
21 Though I were perfect, yet would I not know my soul: I would despise my life.

Is that so hard to grasp?

Joidevivre · Nov 19, 2014

How fast this turned away from the blood of Jesus and all it represents to "works" again. Oh but the blood, let us not forget it cleanses us of all our unrighteousness (making me righteous in the eyes of God) - it defeats the enemy - it protects us - it purifies it.

Thank you so much Brad, for starting a thread on the awesomeness and power of the blood of Christ. May we all partake of His blood with joy.

JesusIsAll · Nov 19, 2014

Blood of the Lamb
Words by Woody Guthrie, Music by Jeff Tweedy

Are your garments all spotless?
Are they white as the snow?
Are you washed in the blood of the lamb?
Is your soul all spotless?
Is it clean as the snow?
Are you washed in the blood of the lamb?

I am washed, yes I'm washed
I am washed in the blood
I'm all washed in the blood of the lamb
I'm all clean I'm all spotless
I'm pure like the snows
I'm all washed in the blood of the lamb

Have you laid down your burdens?
Have you found peace and rest?
Are you washed in the blood of the lamb?
I've laid down all my troubles
I've found peace and rest
I'm all washed in the blood of the lamb

Have you learnt to love your neighbors?
Of all colors, creeds and kinds?
Are you washed in the blood of the lamb?
I've learnt to love my peoples
Of all colors, creeds and kinds
I'm all washed in that blood of that lamb

Joidevivre · Nov 19, 2014

And... unless you drink His blood, you have no life in you...John 6:53

He that eats my flesh and drinks my blood dwells in me and I in him...John 6:56

Has made of one blood all nations (by His blood) Acts 17:26

Purchased the church with His own blood Acts 20:28

We receive propitiation through faith in His blood - Ro 3:25

Justified by His blood - Ro. 5:9

Are made close to God by the blood of Christ Eph 2:13

How much more shall the blood of Christ cleanse us from sin Heb. 9:14

Sanctified us with His blood - Heb. 13:12

Cleanses us from ALL unrighteousness I John 1:7

Washed us from our sins by His blood - Rev. 1:5

We overcome the enemy by the blood of the lamb Rev. 12:11

When we begin talking about the blood, it just gets me started on my favorite subject.

Skinski7 · Nov 19, 2014

notuptome said:

It is so sad as to how predictable those like you actually are.

You ignore the whole counsel of God and simply fall back onto your pet isolated proof texts. You don't have many.

Is it reasonable to use an isolated proof text to cancel out the very words of Jesus?

This following verse is speaking of the DYNAMIC OF TRANSFORMATION not an IRRATIONAL TRANSFER

2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Vice and virtue are not transferable properties. We are MADE the righteousness of God IN Him through COOPERATING with the lead of God. In other words it is through the dynamic of WORKING TOGETHER WITH GOD that God's grace effectually transforms us from the inside out. This is why Paul wrote this statement IMMEDIATELY after 2Cor 5:21...

2Co 6:1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.

The grace of God is what leads us...

Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

We work together with God by yielding ourselves to that grace and walking according to it. Jesus gave Himself for us that He might redeem us from all iniquity and purify us through this dynamic. Here is more evidence of that...

Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 8:3 and 8:4 are a parallel to 2Cor 5:21-6:1.

2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
2Co 6:1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.

Here is another parallel passage teaching the same thing...

Joh 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Joh 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
Joh 15:7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

Here is another parallel...

Jas 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

All these passages speak of the WORKING DYNAMIC which produces TRANSFORMATION OF THE HEART. The false "transfer of righteousness" doctrine is designed to destroy the ability of one being able to grasp the genuine "working dynamic" in the mind. Satan immunises people to the Gospel by destroying the truth in the mind.

You folks who are totally deceived ignore what is plainly right in front of you by emotionally attaching yourself to your pet proof text verses. You are self deceived by doing this.

Here is the other proof text you allude to...

Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

You ignore the context of that verse. Isaiah is identifying himself with Israel as whole who have rebelled against God. It is THEIR righteousness which is as filthy rags. Here is that verse in its full context...

Isa 64:1 Oh that thou wouldest rend the heavens, that thou wouldest come down, that the mountains might flow down at thy presence,
Isa 64:2 As when the melting fire burneth, the fire causeth the waters to boil, to make thy name known to thine adversaries, that the nations may tremble at thy presence!
Isa 64:3 When thou didst terrible things which we looked not for, thou camest down, the mountains flowed down at thy presence.
Isa 64:4 For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.
Isa 64:5 Thou meetest him that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, those that remember thee in thy ways: behold, thou art wroth; for we have sinned: in those is continuance, and we shall be saved.
Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Isa 64:7 And there is none that calleth upon thy name, that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee: for thou hast hid thy face from us, and hast consumed us, because of our iniquities.
Isa 64:8 But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.
Isa 64:9 Be not wroth very sore, O LORD, neither remember iniquity for ever: behold, see, we beseech thee, we are all thy people.
Isa 64:10 Thy holy cities are a wilderness, Zion is a wilderness, Jerusalem a desolation.
Isa 64:11 Our holy and our beautiful house, where our fathers praised thee, is burned up with fire: and all our pleasant things are laid waste.
Isa 64:12 Wilt thou refrain thyself for these things, O LORD? wilt thou hold thy peace, and afflict us very sore?

Notice in verse 5 it speaks of those who "work righteousness," those who "remember God's ways," and THEN Isaiah contrasts it to Israel as a WHOLE who has rebelled against God.

Yet you take that verse, you isolate that verse from its context, and then you use it as a proof text to support the false notion that ANYTHING we do is as filthy rags before God.

The Bible teaches...

Rev 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

Is the fine linen filthy rags to God?

David understood the truth...

1Sa 26:23 The LORD render to every man his righteousness and his faithfulness: for the LORD delivered thee into my hand to day, but I would not stretch forth mine hand against the LORD'S anointed.

Likewise Job understood as well...

Job 27:5 God forbid that I should justify you: till I die I will not remove mine integrity from me.
Job 27:6 My righteousness I hold fast, and will not let it go: my heart shall not reproach me so long as I live.

Job was a righteous man before God and God most certainly did not view his righteousness as filthy rags...

Job 1:1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.

Job 1:8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

Filthy rags indeed. How can you cling to such a thing when you base it off one single verse which you isolate out of its true context? Can you not examine the truth of such a matter with an honest heart? Let God be true and all men liars, what does the Bible actually teach?

Was Abel's righteousness as filthy rags before God?

Heb 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.

What we DO is what bears witness as to whether we are righteous or wicked. Ezekial wrote this...

Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Eze 18:21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
Eze 18:22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.
Eze 18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?
Eze 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

I could go on and on. The Bible is very clear.

The doctrine of the imputed righteousness of Christ is a satanic counterfeit for the real thing, the real thing being that we are made righteous simply through yielding ourselves wholeheartedly to God.

Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Rom 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

dcontroversal · Nov 19, 2014

Joidevivre said:

I agree...all I know is the simple truth that the PASSOVER is a BIG painting of JESUS and it quit simply teaches...

When I see the BLOOD, I will PASS OVER YOU......

It amazes me how many will add works, water, church membership or affiliation etc. to the simple truth of the blood being applied and how the blood applied = salvation, justification and sanctification of a true believer......!

eternally-gratefull · Nov 19, 2014

Joidevivre said:

just ignore mr skinski, He is nothing but a modern day pharisee who wants to puff himself up. been here for along time, nothing will change his mind. So do not bother trying, it is a waste of time.

Skinski7 · Nov 19, 2014

dcontroversal said:

You are just as predictable as the other guy.

You throw reason out the window and allude to a verse in Isaiah as a proof text. You completely ignore the context of that verse and also ignore the clear sentiment expressed in the Bible as a whole.

The righteousness that is as filthy rags is the perceived righteousness of wicked people, not the servants of God.

elf3 · Nov 19, 2014

Joidevivre said:

I agree such a good post. Only by the blood of Christ are we justified before God and redeemed to God.

Skinski7 · Nov 19, 2014

Also regarding this passage...

Rom 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
Rom 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

There is no transfer of righteousness taught there. It is a wonderful passage which again describes the dynamic of transformation. We read "the redemption that is IN Christ Jesus" which is a parallel to...

Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Redemption literally means to be set free by payment of a ransom. The ransom is not a payment in coin but rather a payment by example where Christ gave Himself for us that He might redeem us literally from all iniquity and make us pure.

Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Jesus condemned sin in the flesh by overcoming it whilst being tempted in all points as we are.

Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

Thus it is through approaching God in the correct manner (through repentance and faith) that we obtain mercy and find the grace that aids us in our time of need for God does not allow us to be tempted above that we are able.

1Co 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

The righteousness of God which is by faith is upon all those whom believe because it is those whom believe who do the will of God via a faith that works by love, love that works no ill, love which fulfills the righteousness of the law in us. It is faith which purifies the heart (Act 15:9).

Now notice this. No-one who responds to my posts will touch the issue of heart purity in salvation. That is the forbidden topic because to address it reveals the fallacies of deception. It is much easier to simply parrot the limited number of out of context proof texts which the deceived continually allude to.

Joidevivre · Nov 19, 2014

The LAST thing the enemy wants us to look at is the blood the Christ. For it is the power of God to all who believe. And He uses people to distract us away from this. And they all have other scripture to take us to. But it does trample underfoot the blood of Christ.

It was so important to Jesus that he took up the cup and said to "drink of his blood" often. Drink also in the sense of really taking it in and meditating on it - participating in the forgiveness it offered - the freedom - the healing.

Skinski7 · Nov 19, 2014

eternally-gratefull said:

I am perceived as a puffed up modern day Pharisee because I continually allude to the fact that Jesus taught that it is the pure in heart who will see God.

I am perceived as a puffed up modern day Pharisee because I continually allude to the fact that we have to forsake our rebellion to God through godly sorrow working repentance unto salvation.

I am perceived as a puffed up Pharisee because I continually contend against the notion that God reckons an individual righteous when in fact they are still inwardly wicked because of some positional transfer of the virtue of Jesus being credited to their account.

I am perceived as a puffed up Pharisee because I continually contend against and expose the twisting of select verses used as proof texts by the proponents of the false gospel message. I clearly quote those verses and show the surrounding context.

The issue with the real Pharisees in Jesus day is that they were INWARDLY WICKED and only had a FORM of OUTWARD RIGHTEOUSNESS. This is why Jesus said to them...

Mat 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
Mat 23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
Mat 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
Mat 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

The Pharisees took comfort in their religion and refused to come to God in truth.

The modern day Pharisees are not much different. Instead a legalistic "works of the law" theology, they adhere to a fantastical "trust in the provision." In both cases the hearts remain wicked and they even boast in that wickedness with their allusion to filthy rags and always having sin in them.

It is a tragedy that so many people so easily buy into the lie instead of simply accepting what Jesus plainly taught in the Sermon on the Mount and elsewhere.

Mat 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
Mat 6:23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

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SeaBass · Nov 19, 2014

Skinski7 said:

If Christ's perfect righteousness was in the believer then the believer would be as perfectly sinless as Christ.....but that's not the case, 1 Jn 1:8,10.

elf3 · Nov 19, 2014

I believe one of the most powerful words in the Bible is the Word "propitiation". This word means more than just sacrifice. It means the only acceptable sacrifice. By the grace of God he gave Himself as our sacrifice for our sins. Jesus being fully God and fully man gave His blood for us. But not only that, He rose from the dead and ascended to Heaven so that we could come back into the relationship with God we were intended for. Jesus, by His blood, conquered sin and death so we can be united with Him for eternity.

Skinski7 · Nov 19, 2014

Joidevivre said:

The blood of Christ is for this...

Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Heb 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
Heb 9:18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
Heb 9:19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
Heb 9:20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.

The blood of Christ is for this...

Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Which we enter into through this manner...

Heb 10:19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
Heb 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
Heb 10:21 And having an high priest over the house of God;
Heb 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

The entire purpose of Jesus dying is to effect a total transformation of the heart of those who approach God in the correct manner. It brings a former sinner into state of purity in which reconciliation with God may take place. God cannot be reconciled to those who remain in rebellion to Him and thus God effected a means to purge the rebellion once and for all.

This truth has been subverted by the "package salvation" deception. A deception that teaches that people can be reconciled to God whilst they are still evil and in rebellion. A deception which teaches them that they can sin and live. A deception which presents the work of Christ as effecting a mere legal transaction where the virtue of Jesus is credited to the wicked and that the wickedness of the wicked is credited to Jesus who was punished in their stead. Thus people who buy into this deception are immunised against the notion of genuine purity of heart and instead contend for ongoing wickedness and a transfer.

It's the blood of the Lamb

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