The Angels and Archangels

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ELECT

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resurrection33 said:
I am at work and can’t go study the Scripture (something from out of the book of Jude?). I would say, though, that Satan wants to force us to worship him. None of us want that.
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How was satan able to withstood gabriel an Holy angel of God for 21 days Dan 10 ?
 
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o_O..lol this reminds me of the movie Noah.... I don't believe they can though idk..
 
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AbbeyJoy said:
o_O..lol this reminds me of the movie Noah.... I don't believe they can though idk..
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Oh you don't think they can?

Dan 10:12 Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.
Dan 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
Dan 10:14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.

Sure they can.
 
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Straightshot said:
The Lord's angels that have remained loyal to Him have no sin

However, the one called Satan [a cherub of the highest order] rebelled against the Lord and managed to draw off 1/3 of the created angels to follow

These reprobate angels will never repent and they will all ultimately be destroyed
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Everyone has sinned, except Jesus.
 
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GuessWho said:
I think the op is more focused on repentance than on angels and archangels.

Can fallen angels repent? I always thought they can't.
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Anybody can repent. Until we do, life can be unpleasant, if not brutal.
 
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Straightshot said:
"This may be true as the bible certainly indicates this but I find it sad nevertheless. If it were possible Satan should tell God that he is sorry and this whole drama that has been played during the ages could have a happy conclusion"


Yes, but the story is already finished

The Lord forces an angel and a human to make a choice .... and for good reason

He wants no part of a one sided relationship

It must be mutual

This is His testing
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I suspect the story has a happy ending.
 
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For the one who makes the right choice .... but not for the other guys, fire time for them


You said "Everyone has sinned, except Jesus."

I will entertain you for a bit .... but not long

Read Revelation 12 and tell me how many angel's have sinned
 
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ELECT said:
How was satan able to withstood gabriel an Holy angel of God for 21 days Dan 10 ?
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I don’t have the Scripture in front of me, but angels and archangels are not Gods. They have limitations.
 
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Straightshot said:
For the one who makes the right choice .... but not for the other guys, fire time for them


You said "Everyone has sinned, except Jesus."

I will entertain you for a bit .... but not long

Read Revelation 12 and tell me how many angel's have sinned
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I’m at work and can’t read Revelation 12. Whenever a person sins, they are disciplined. After the discipline is complete, the person is forgiven.
 
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Straightshot said:
For the one who makes the right choice .... but not for the other guys, fire time for them


You said "Everyone has sinned, except Jesus."

I will entertain you for a bit .... but not long

Read Revelation 12 and tell me how many angel's have sinned
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Okay, I just quickly read Revelation 12, but I didn’t see anything there that said angels have never sinned. Did I miss something?
 
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