TO FORGIVE OR NOT TO FORGIVE

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ELECT

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Since God withhold forgiveness should we also withhold forgiveness ? Why or Why Not
 
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21Then Peter came and said to Him, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times?" 22Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.
 

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Forgive as he has forgiven us.
 

JesusLives

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Since God withhold forgiveness should we also withhold forgiveness ? Why or Why Not
Since when did God withhold forgiveness?

He gave Jesus to die for our sins the whole world is who Jesus died for the whole world won't choose Jesus, but the way I see it God has NEVER withheld forgiveness. Please explain what you mean.
 

Angela53510

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"Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you." Ephesians 4:32
 
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Forgive that you may be forgiven.....quite simple....not always easy....but is required...........!
 
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Since when did God withhold forgiveness?

He gave Jesus to die for our sins the whole world is who Jesus died for the whole world won't choose Jesus, but the way I see it God has NEVER withheld forgiveness. Please explain what you mean.
Matthew 6:14-15? Neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.....If you cannot forgive men their trespasses.........!
 
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21Then Peter came and said to Him, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times?" 22Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.
does that mean 490 time ?
 
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does that mean 490 time ?
It's a parable... Jesus is saying to always forgive your brothers and sisters, ALWAYS, 490 ? if your counting, I guess so, I would just part ways after a 100,000 or so. I'm human...
 
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Powemm

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Good question to ask elect as others may be asking it as well... I struggled with this issue for a while... okay so honestly about forty years..... I was like "WHAT???? You want "me" to forgive THAT????) I was baffled for a long time and wrestled with god over it (AND LOST by the way ) for quite some time... I had to come to the place of understanding exactly "how much" ive been forgiven for to really be able to apply it... forgiveness is like getting a steak now.. once you try it it becomes the only staple that will satisfy your appetite..nothing short of it will do...
 

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God forgives if we confess and repent.

If we follow God's model and someone sins against you but doesn't confess or repent - then what?

Flipside - Christ on the cross; "forgive them for they know not what they do."

I struggle with this.
 
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Kaycie

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Revenge of any kind or of any level, including holding a grudge, simply does not belong to us. WE must always forgive. Whether God forgives or not is up to Him- He is the Judge, the only judge. I feel bad for anyone who would attempt to throw this Judge off the judgement seat and take over! We are not the Judge but are the ones being judged, so if we attempt to take over God's job we will be judged for our disobedience. Just because you forgive someone does not mean they get away with it, it just means that judging their soul is God's job- not yours. He says if YOU don't forgive that you won't be forgiven.
 
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Revenge of any kind or of any level, including holding a grudge, simply does not belong to us. WE must always forgive. Whether God forgives or not is up to Him- He is the Judge, the only judge. I feel bad for anyone who would attempt to throw this Judge off the judgement seat and take over! We are not the Judge but are the ones being judged, so if we attempt to take over God's job we will be judged for our disobedience. Just because you forgive someone does not mean they get away with it, it just means that judging their soul is God's job- not yours. He says if YOU don't forgive that you won't be forgiven.
Also, who wants to carry the burden of regret, revenge, or hate with them... It's just not healthy for us.
 
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God does not withhold forgiveness we should forgive also.
 
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ELECT

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Revenge of any kind or of any level, including holding a grudge, simply does not belong to us. WE must always forgive. Whether God forgives or not is up to Him- He is the Judge, the only judge. I feel bad for anyone who would attempt to throw this Judge off the judgement seat and take over! We are not the Judge but are the ones being judged, so if we attempt to take over God's job we will be judged for our disobedience. Just because you forgive someone does not mean they get away with it, it just means that judging their soul is God's job- not yours. He says if YOU don't forgive that you won't be forgiven.
So if God does not forgive does that means He holds grudge also ?
 

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I look at forgiveness as extending God's mercy to the one who needs it the most. To do this, I have to forget my feelings and give what I feel Christ would give them - His mercy. And the only people who can really feel mercy are the ones who know they have hurt you and would not expect it.
 

Dan58

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Since God withhold forgiveness should we also withhold forgiveness ? Why or Why Not
To my knowledge, there's not a verse in the bible that says to "Forgive your enemies". If someone doesn't want forgiveness, and if someone doesn't repent, I don't believe we are expected to forgive them unless their offense is one of ignorance (unknowing transgression). Both the Baptist and Jesus preached that forgiveness requires repentance. "If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him" (Luke 17:3). So forgiveness is qualified by repentance. We are suppose to forgive others as our Father forgives us, and God doesn't forgive the unrepentant sinner. All sin is not automatically forgiven, a person needs to confess their transgression; "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins" (1 John 1:9). We are taught not to seek vengeance or return evil for evil against our enemies. We are also taught to love and pray for our enemies (Matthew 5:44), but no where does it say to forgive them. God forgave King David because he repented, but God did not forgive King Saul because he never truly repented. "Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head" (Romans 12:20). jmo

 
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It does not matter if my brother/neighbor/enemy repents to me or to God or not, if I don't want anything hindering my perfect peace in Christ Jesus and my clear communication with the Lord, I must relinquish my right to myself and forgive them. Not only does that set me free from being shackled to hurt, anger & vengeance but it sets the person free whom you forgave. They no longer are indebted to you. That may not sound fair, right?

Jesus died for us while we were yet sinners and He was sinless. He took our debt away. How is that fair to Him? It may not appear to be fair, but it is the miracle of grace: unmerited favor. Unconditional love.

To forgive someone like Jesus forgives verifies that His Spirit abides in you. Jesus said on the Cross, "Father, forgive them because they don't know what they're doing."