JUDGING VS CORRECTION<THE TOLERANCE DOCTRINE

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kaylagrl

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I've seen here in the discussion forum many times the "judge not lest you be judged Scripture tossed about and taken out of context.It seems to be the new go to phrase for the tolerance generation who dont believe any other verse in the Bible just "judge not".But I've been surprised with Christians saying the same thing.You cant say homosexuality is wrong,or abortion,or the Muslim faith which seems to be one where the liberals scream intolerance when you say it is an evil "religion".So lets look deeper at judging vs correction in the Bible...

[h=1]Matthew 7:1-5 Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.[/h] Matthew is talking about hypocritical judging.Seeing your brothers sin but seeing yourself as perfect.Its talking about spiritual pride. But the Bible does not teach that we should never warn anyone of sin.

[h=1]Ephesians 5:11-12 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 It is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret.

In James....Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and done convert him; 20 Let him know, that ehe which converteth the sinner from the error of his way fshall save ga soul from death, and hshall hide a multitude of sins.

[/h][h=1]2 Timothy 2:24-26 And the Lord's servant[a] must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, 25 CORRECTING his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will.[/h]
[h=1] [/h] John 7:24 says, "Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment."


I’ve spoken of non-judgmentalism mainly as an atheist view, but the language has been adopted by probably most Christians in our day. Without Christians able to identify the fallacies of anti-judgmentalism, atheists are allowed to advance their moral agenda and stop Christians from asserting theirs. The atheist shouts, "The Bible says do not judge," and the Christian is supposed to stop asserting the moral authority of God's word. Ephesians 6 lists the armor of God that Christians are commanded to put on. Every part is defensive except one offensive part, “the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God” (Eph. 6). It’s the sword of God’s word that “judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart” (Heb. 4:12). When Christians are deceived into non-judgmentalism, they have laid aside their only weapon to defeat the enemy. When Christians lay aside the authority of God’s word, in which we are given God’s standards for living and God’s solution to sin through Jesus Christ, the atheists avoid the power of the word of God to convict the heart of sin and to provide the blueprint to build God’s kingdom. Satan’s kingdom, by default, triumphs.

Who are you to judge? You know you will be asked that, and you may have already asked it to yourself. You are an ambassador for Christ (Eph. 6:20), that’s who! Revelation 1:5 says that Jesus Christ is “Ruler of the kings of the earth.” You are an ambassador of the King of the universe, the King of kings. It’s not your word that you bring. It’s God’s word. And no one can escape the judgment of God. And there is no other way of salvation than that which is given in God’s word. Those who say you shouldn’t judge will judge nonetheless. They ask “who are you to judge?” only to substitute the word of man for the word of God as the ultimate authority. But whether they like it or not, you have a duty to proclaim God’s word. As Paul says, it will be the savor of death to those who are perishing, but the savor of life to those who are being saved (2 Cor. 2:16-17). Judge Others. Jesus Said To.
by Michael H. Warren, Jr.


 
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The "you are judging me" squawking is the excuse of religionists that attempt in vane to throw a curve at others who do not agree with them

I practically never see one of the Lord's true ecclesia using the same persecution complex .... because they are grounded in their faith with a solid biblical foundation

When you are eventually confronted with the squawking in conversation just ignore it and continue on with your witness

If it continues, and it most likely will, then the time has come for you to walk away

This step in the witness process is usually a better course to take for the individual involved because it takes away exactly what they are feeding on .... their continued frenzy in the conversation reinforces their own self deception
 
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We are commanded to judge, but judge rightly...the problem lies in how we judge.....

1. If we judge by the word of God then our judgment is true and correct.....
2. If we judge based upon opinion, conjecture, supposition then our judgment is incorrect....
3. If we judge without all of the facts our judgment is incorrect....

Many scriptures on judging and judgment for sure........

Judge not after the flesh....
Judge righteous judgment...
Judge not according to appearance...
Judge yourselves....
Judge nothing before the time....
Why do you judge your brother...
Let us not judge one another...
We shall judge angels...
The Lord shall judge his people...
God shall judge the secrets of men....
Let no man therefore judge you.....

Just to name a few........!
 
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There are two wrong extremes on this topic. Some feel we are not allowed to speak out against bad behavior at all. That we should never tell a person that their sin is wrong. However, it is wrong and they need to confess or repent of that sin so as to get right with the Lord. The other wrong extreme is in judging others in such a way that shows you have no heart or that you don't care. The Westboro Baptist Church is a perfect example of this.
 
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There are two wrong extremes on this topic. Some feel we are not allowed to speak out against bad behavior at all. That we should never tell a person that their sin is wrong. However, it is wrong and they need to confess or repent of that sin so as to get right with the Lord. The other wrong extreme is in judging others in such a way that shows you have no heart or that you don't care. The Westboro Baptist Church is a perfect example of this.
No doubt, and the Westboro Baptist Church is only a church in name for sure.....<----oops I judged albeit based upon the facts that no where did God teach in his word to do the things that they have done........didn't that guy who pastored that (group) die?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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The problem we have is in who and how we judge.

It does not good to judge an unbeliever, they could not stop sin to begin with, and all you will do is cause them to through up defenses. We need to win them to Christ not judge them.

the other is a brother or sister in Christ, Scripture tells us how to confront them, not in a judgmental way, but loving way.

I think Jesus said it bes when he said I did not come to judge, I came to save.
 
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The problem we have is in who and how we judge.

It does not good to judge an unbeliever, they could not stop sin to begin with, and all you will do is cause them to through up defenses. We need to win them to Christ not judge them.

the other is a brother or sister in Christ, Scripture tells us how to confront them, not in a judgmental way, but loving way.

I think Jesus said it bes when he said I did not come to judge, I came to save.
amen to that and.....Neither do I judge you...go and sin no more....with application to a particular sin.....thank God for mercy and grace and restoration!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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amen to that and.....Neither do I judge you...go and sin no more....with application to a particular sin.....thank God for mercy and grace and restoration!
amen, these churches like westboro who think they are doing Gods will to try to stop sin in america got it all wrong.

You get america saved, and sin will natural stop. you do not judge the sin and sinner first. God is the only judge

 
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JesusIsAll

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The "judge not" maneuver is a very old and common one, often the straw man of those who can't stand any rebuke, can't stand hearing about sin and repentance, the refuge of scoundrels spreading doctrinal lies, often the cop out for those who just don't want to hear certain "nerve center," uncomfortable truths. Matthew 7:1 is solely about hypocritical judgment, not going through our lives like politically correct cretins, with no discernment and judgment. We have to make proper judgments every day of our lives, and Matthew 7:1 is usually yanked entirely out of context,

Matthew 7:1-5 Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Notice "first cast out the beam out of thine own eye," so that you may have proper judgment, Matthew 7:1 not an admonition against all judgment.
 
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kaylagrl

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There are two wrong extremes on this topic. Some feel we are not allowed to speak out against bad behavior at all. That we should never tell a person that their sin is wrong. However, it is wrong and they need to confess or repent of that sin so as to get right with the Lord. The other wrong extreme is in judging others in such a way that shows you have no heart or that you don't care. The Westboro Baptist Church is a perfect example of this.
Yes you are right there are two extremes.Though lately I see more of the liberal tolerance crowd.The Westboro Baptist crowd is definitely the example of a judgmental, haughty spirit!
 
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kaylagrl

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amen, these churches like westboro who think they are doing Gods will to try to stop sin in america got it all wrong.

You get america saved, and sin will natural stop. you do not judge the sin and sinner first. God is the only judge


I mostly do agree with you.The only problem is that to get someone saved you have to tell they are doing is sin,it is wrong.But many Christians say "judge not" so people are left in sin and darkness and not knowing the way.What is the verse in the OT that talks about sounding a clear call?
 
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I've seen here in the discussion forum many times the "judge not lest you be judged Scripture tossed about and taken out of context.It seems to be the new go to phrase for the tolerance generation who dont believe any other verse in the Bible just "judge not".But I've been surprised with Christians saying the same thing.You cant say homosexuality is wrong,or abortion,or the Muslim faith which seems to be one where the liberals scream intolerance when you say it is an evil "religion".So lets look deeper at judging vs correction in the Bible...

Matthew 7:1-5 Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

Matthew is talking about hypocritical judging.Seeing your brothers sin but seeing yourself as perfect.Its talking about spiritual pride. But the Bible does not teach that we should never warn anyone of sin.

Ephesians 5:11-12 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 It is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret.

In James....Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and done convert him; 20 Let him know, that ehe which converteth the sinner from the error of his way fshall save ga soul from death, and hshall hide a multitude of sins.



2 Timothy 2:24-26 And the Lord's servant[a] must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, 25 CORRECTING his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will.


John 7:24 says, "Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment."


I’ve spoken of non-judgmentalism mainly as an atheist view, but the language has been adopted by probably most Christians in our day.Without Christians able to identify the fallacies of anti-judgmentalism, atheists are allowed to advance their moral agenda and stop Christians from asserting theirs.The atheist shouts, "The Bible says do not judge," and the Christian is supposed to stop asserting the moral authority of God's word. Ephesians 6 lists the armor of God that Christians are commanded to put on.Every part is defensive except one offensive part, “the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God” (Eph. 6).It’s the sword of God’s word that “judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart” (Heb. 4:12).When Christians are deceived into non-judgmentalism, they have laid aside their only weapon to defeat the enemy.When Christians lay aside the authority of God’s word, in which we are given God’s standards for living and God’s solution to sin through Jesus Christ, the atheists avoid the power of the word of God to convict the heart of sin and to provide the blueprint to build God’s kingdom.Satan’s kingdom, by default, triumphs.

Who are you to judge?You know you will be asked that, and you may have already asked it to yourself.You are an ambassador for Christ (Eph. 6:20), that’s who!Revelation 1:5 says that Jesus Christ is “Ruler of the kings of the earth.”You are an ambassador of the King of the universe, the King of kings.It’s not your word that you bring.It’s God’s word.And no one can escape the judgment of God.And there is no other way of salvation than that which is given in God’s word.Those who say you shouldn’t judge will judge nonetheless.They ask “who are you to judge?” only to substitute the word of man for the word of God as the ultimate authority.But whether they like it or not, you have a duty to proclaim God’s word. As Paul says, it will be the savor of death to those who are perishing, but the savor of life to those who are being saved (2 Cor. 2:16-17). Judge Others. Jesus Said To.
by Michael H. Warren, Jr.


Witnessing lambs and sheep of GOD of the New Covenant sound doctrine knowledge by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, that we need not turn to the 'left' or 'right', to what has been posted, you are given to CHRIST, Please witness a sad 'lawless' one, still have chance to 'repent' from ignorance.

Please forgive her and pray for her, to come out of her ignorance, being still in the flesh/carnality, as babes in CHRIST in order to understand Spirituality sound doctrine knowledge of the New Covenant, of act in 'selfish feelings and desires', to make a come back to 'bite' the LORD JESUS CHRIST of the New Covenant sound doctrine knowledge, 'author and finisher of our faith', taught to you and me, by GOD's will, by the HOLY SPIRIT, in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.

Please witness and distinguish between the 'spirit of error' and the 'spirit of truth' and do not fail her in love of being one of us, for the deception is 'real' and is working in men and women of the New Covenant, in lack of add/supplement to their 'faith' of sound doctrine knowledge of the New Covenant.

How do we judge in 'fair and right', as a gifted Spiritual 'counselor', unworthy servant to the 'truth' written 'COUNSELOR' in Heaven, given to us as men and women to 'abide' and bear fruit and by in love and help to someone in our own family, who need Spiritual sound doctrine knowledge 'counseling', not to oppose the Living GOD's written 'every Word that proceeded of HIS mouth' that is CHRIST of the New Covenant?

As it is written to ignorant women remain in carnality/flesh and 'not' continue to 'practice' 'lawlessness', because of GOD's grace is granted upon us that;

"Women are to remain silent in church(a gathering of believers), and learn like men too, from the LORD of the New Covenant. They are not allowed to teach and practice authority over men."

You sadly beloved ignorant 'fox', i forgive you in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST and may GOD, the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST forgive you and bless, since HE is in favor to 'Help' you to grow Spiritually wise, and it is written, you are the 'weaker vessel' that we must love and not allow you to continue in ignorance, like the once who support you in 'self righteousness'.

As it is also written in the Proverbs, in order for believers, men and women to become New Covenant Spiritual sound doctrine knowledge taught and practice 'wiser', excellent than unbelievers that;

"Men(and mankind, women with them) make plans, but only GOD(CHRIST) decides."

Please 'do not' conspire against an unworthy and least important servant of CHRIST.

As it is written;

"You are only accumulating trouble for your 'self' on judgement day."

As it is also written;

"i AM here to serve and not to be served."


Those who post 'likes' to this correction of GOD to HIS beloved in reply, will be also accountable to the same 'beforehand' written judgement.

This is 'not' facebook 'pattern' forum to 'slumber' in and 'watch a match'.

This is the 'HOLY BIBLE DISCUSSION FORUM', where the Kingdom of GOD's lambs and sheep of our LORD JESUS CHRIST, are gathered, in 'A Gathering', meaning 'Church/Body of CHRIST'.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I mostly do agree with you.The only problem is that to get someone saved you have to tell they are doing is sin,it is wrong.But many Christians say "judge not" so people are left in sin and darkness and not knowing the way.What is the verse in the OT that talks about sounding a clear call?
actually I disagree with you.

Romans 1 states everyone knows they are a sinner, I do not have to judge someone they are commiting some select personal sin, that is judging, I have to convince them they are sinners, and righteously judged because they are a sinner like everyone else. But jesus came to save them.

After they get saved, when they are indwelt and sealed by the spirit. then God will work on their personal sin, and may use me to help him overcome that sin.
 
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elf3

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"Judge not lest you be judged" has become the politically correct catch phrase. Political correctness is nothing but going against God's Word. Aww we have to be nice to everyone accept everyone and accept their god's. Hey I know let's candy coat the Word of God so no one gets left out. Come pray to your false god as I sit beside you and pray to the real God. Hey, being homosexual is a sin but let me marry you two guys or gals. Oh? Yeah sure I'm sure God's fine with it. All you have to do is do good stuff and God will let you into heaven. What? Oh yeah Jesus died on the cross for you but that's fine just do good.

I will not play the "be happy, all is good" Christian. I will not bend God's Word just to make someone "feel good". If you don't like the truth then go write your own "book" to follow. Let's see where that gets ya.

Call me judgemental or whatever I don't care because I will stand not behind or beside God...I will stand in front of him defending Him till I die or Jesus returns whatever comes first. (Yeah as if God needs me in the front)

Three men didn't bow, they trusted God no matter what the outcome was. Their names? Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego (the names given them by the chief official, by which we know them best).
 
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elf3

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Oh and I know a couple people on here who will stand right beside me.
 
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kaylagrl

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actually I disagree with you.

Romans 1 states everyone knows they are a sinner, I do not have to judge someone they are commiting some select personal sin, that is judging, I have to convince them they are sinners, and righteously judged because they are a sinner like everyone else. But jesus came to save them.

After they get saved, when they are indwelt and sealed by the spirit. then God will work on their personal sin, and may use me to help him overcome that sin.

Yes I agree that God does the inner work and changes us from sinners to saints. But to say sin is wrong is not judging a person.As you said sin has been judged already.For Christians to stand and say "this is wrong" is not judgment as God has judged sin already.I say this because there are some churches that dont teach that homosexuality is wrong,or living together,or drinking to excess {I dont drink myself} and other sins.Some have said to me "well I didn't know that was wrong".So I dont think judging and correction are the same thing.Yes God does the work but we still are salt and light to the world.We should sound the call.
 

Hizikyah

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To OP.

It is not my position to say if one will enter eternal life or damnation.

However I am to put a difference between righteousness and evil. AND DO RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Leviticus 19:17, "You shall not hate your neighbor in your heart. Rebuke your brother (or your sister) frankly, so you will not share in his (or her) guilt."

Titus 1:9, "Holding fast the teaching according to the faithful word in order that he may be able, by sound doctrine, both to exhort and to refute those who contradict."

1 Yahchanan 2:4, "He who says: I know Him, but does not keep His Law, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."

2 Timothy 4:2-3, "Preach the word Be instant; ready to take your positions in season, out of season. Reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts they will heap to themselves teachers, who will tickle their ears."


Leviticus 19:17, "You shall not hate your neighbor in your heart. Rebuke your brother (or your sister) frankly, so you will not share in his (or her) guilt."

Luke 17:3-4, "So be on your guard! If your brother trespasses against you, rebuke him! But if he repents, forgive him! And if he trespasses against you seven times in one day, and seven times in that day turns to you, and says; I repent; then you must forgive him."

Proverbs 10:17, "He who keeps instruction is in the way of life, but he who refuses reproof goes astray."

Proverbs 12:1, "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, but he who hates correction is brutish"

Proverbs 15:12, "A scorner has no love for one who would reprove him, so he will not go near the wise."

Proverbs 10:16, "The wages of the righteous is life; but the fruit of wickedness is sin and death."

Proverbs 27:5-6, "Open rebuke is better than concealed love. Faithful are the wounds from a friend, but the kisses from an enemy are deceitful."

Modern teaching says dont rebuke, allow your brother to continue in his sin!

Yaaqob 5:20, "Let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way, will save his soul from death and cover a multitude of sins."

Hosheyah 4:6, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you will be no priest to Me. Because you have forgotten the Law of Yahweh, I will also forget your children."
 
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kaylagrl

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Witnessing lambs and sheep of GOD of the New Covenant sound doctrine knowledge by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, that we need not turn to the 'left' or 'right', to what has been posted, you are given to CHRIST, Please witness a sad 'lawless' one, still have chance to 'repent' from ignorance.

Please forgive her and pray for her, to come out of her ignorance, being still in the flesh/carnality, as babes in CHRIST in order to understand Spirituality sound doctrine knowledge of the New Covenant, of act in 'selfish feelings and desires', to make a come back to 'bite' the LORD JESUS CHRIST of the New Covenant sound doctrine knowledge, 'author and finisher of our faith', taught to you and me, by GOD's will, by the HOLY SPIRIT, in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.

Please witness and distinguish between the 'spirit of error' and the 'spirit of truth' and do not fail her in love of being one of us, for the deception is 'real' and is working in men and women of the New Covenant, in lack of add/supplement to their 'faith' of sound doctrine knowledge of the New Covenant.

How do we judge in 'fair and right', as a gifted Spiritual 'counselor', unworthy servant to the 'truth' written 'COUNSELOR' in Heaven, given to us as men and women to 'abide' and bear fruit and by in love and help to someone in our own family, who need Spiritual sound doctrine knowledge 'counseling', not to oppose the Living GOD's written 'every Word that proceeded of HIS mouth' that is CHRIST of the New Covenant?

As it is written to ignorant women remain in carnality/flesh and 'not' continue to 'practice' 'lawlessness', because of GOD's grace is granted upon us that;

"Women are to remain silent in church(a gathering of believers), and learn like men too, from the LORD of the New Covenant. They are not allowed to teach and practice authority over men."

You sadly beloved ignorant 'fox', i forgive you in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST and may GOD, the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST forgive you and bless, since HE is in favor to 'Help' you to grow Spiritually wise, and it is written, you are the 'weaker vessel' that we must love and not allow you to continue in ignorance, like the once who support you in 'self righteousness'.

As it is also written in the Proverbs, in order for believers, men and women to become New Covenant Spiritual sound doctrine knowledge taught and practice 'wiser', excellent than unbelievers that;

"Men(and mankind, women with them) make plans, but only GOD(CHRIST) decides."

Please 'do not' conspire against an unworthy and least important servant of CHRIST.

As it is written;

"You are only accumulating trouble for your 'self' on judgement day."

As it is also written;

"i AM here to serve and not to be served."


Those who post 'likes' to this correction of GOD to HIS beloved in reply, will be also accountable to the same 'beforehand' written judgement.

This is 'not' facebook 'pattern' forum to 'slumber' in and 'watch a match'.

This is the 'HOLY BIBLE DISCUSSION FORUM', where the Kingdom of GOD's lambs and sheep of our LORD JESUS CHRIST, are gathered, in 'A Gathering', meaning 'Church/Body of CHRIST'.

FredJames you are once again out of line.You rebuke before you listen.Please take care of your own spiritual life and allow others to do the same.You either dont understand what I am saying or refuse to understand.Either way the verses above in the OP prove my point.If you dont like that take it up with God,dont rebuke me,I'm repeating what Scripture says.I'm not about to get into another circular argument with you.You dont answer my posts just continue with nonsense.Please answer the post.
 
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Witnessing lambs and sheep of GOD of the New Covenant sound doctrine knowledge by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, that we need not turn to the 'left' or 'right', to what has been posted, you are given to CHRIST, Please witness a sad 'lawless' one, still have chance to 'repent' from ignorance.

Please forgive her and pray for her, to come out of her ignorance, being still in the flesh/carnality, as babes in CHRIST in order to understand Spirituality sound doctrine knowledge of the New Covenant, of act in 'selfish feelings and desires', to make a come back to 'bite' the LORD JESUS CHRIST of the New Covenant sound doctrine knowledge, 'author and finisher of our faith', taught to you and me, by GOD's will, by the HOLY SPIRIT, in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.

Please witness and distinguish between the 'spirit of error' and the 'spirit of truth' and do not fail her in love of being one of us, for the deception is 'real' and is working in men and women of the New Covenant, in lack of add/supplement to their 'faith' of sound doctrine knowledge of the New Covenant.

How do we judge in 'fair and right', as a gifted Spiritual 'counselor', unworthy servant to the 'truth' written 'COUNSELOR' in Heaven, given to us as men and women to 'abide' and bear fruit and by in love and help to someone in our own family, who need Spiritual sound doctrine knowledge 'counseling', not to oppose the Living GOD's written 'every Word that proceeded of HIS mouth' that is CHRIST of the New Covenant?

As it is written to ignorant women remain in carnality/flesh and 'not' continue to 'practice' 'lawlessness', because of GOD's grace is granted upon us that;

"Women are to remain silent in church(a gathering of believers), and learn like men too, from the LORD of the New Covenant. They are not allowed to teach and practice authority over men."

You sadly beloved ignorant 'fox', i forgive you in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST and may GOD, the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST forgive you and bless, since HE is in favor to 'Help' you to grow Spiritually wise, and it is written, you are the 'weaker vessel' that we must love and not allow you to continue in ignorance, like the once who support you in 'self righteousness'.

As it is also written in the Proverbs, in order for believers, men and women to become New Covenant Spiritual sound doctrine knowledge taught and practice 'wiser', excellent than unbelievers that;

"Men(and mankind, women with them) make plans, but only GOD(CHRIST) decides."

Please 'do not' conspire against an unworthy and least important servant of CHRIST.

As it is written;

"You are only accumulating trouble for your 'self' on judgement day."

As it is also written;

"i AM here to serve and not to be served."


Those who post 'likes' to this correction of GOD to HIS beloved in reply, will be also accountable to the same 'beforehand' written judgement.

This is 'not' facebook 'pattern' forum to 'slumber' in and 'watch a match'.

This is the 'HOLY BIBLE DISCUSSION FORUM', where the Kingdom of GOD's lambs and sheep of our LORD JESUS CHRIST, are gathered, in 'A Gathering', meaning 'Church/Body of CHRIST'.
I agree with kayla's response dude.