islam and the pope

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Today's Popes are pushers of ecumenicism; the "we all worship the same God" theme

This view is false for many reasons and particularly when it is applied to Isalm

There is no mixing of true bibical Christianity and Koranic Islam

Witnessing to a Muslim with the facts is one thing, but appeasement never works .... one must tell what the Muslim needs to hear, not what they want to hear

The current Pope's "church" is dwindling in numbers ..... Islam on the other hand is growing rapidly

So his adventure is most likely a folly, Catholics and Muslims simply do not mix .... never have, and will not ....oil and water

I doubt that he will make much gain other than attraction by the news media .... let's watch and see
 
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Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them. And authority was given him over all tribes, and peoples and languages, and nations.

 
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The SDA Veith is making up stories .... there is no common ground between his rival RCC and the Muslims

There is a singular advocate of promoting hatred against Israel and defiance of Jesus Christ ... Satan works both sides of the street .... in both subtle and direct ways

When the Muslim Caliph stands up one of His major targets will be the RCC .... evidence of this is already emerging as ISIL demonstrates
 
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Hizikyah

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The SDA Veith is making up stories .... there is no common ground between his rival RCC and the Muslims

There is a singular advocate of promoting hatred against Israel and defiance of Jesus Christ ... Satan works both sides of the street .... in both subtle and direct ways

When the Muslim Caliph stands up one of His major targets will be the RCC .... evidence of this is already emerging as ISIL demonstrates
ISIL was created by...

you silly guy... You need to read
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Hizikyah

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When the Muslim Caliph stands up one of His major targets will be the RCC .... evidence of this is already emerging as ISIL demonstrates
Since ISIL/ISIS/whatever are controlled at the top, this could be possible:

Revelation17:16 "And the ten horns which you saw upon the beast, these will hate the whore, and will make her desolate and naked, and will eat her flesh, and burn her with fire."
 

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Catholic officially said that Muslim God and Catholic God is same.


Lumengentium II/16



16. Finally, those who have not yet received the Gospel are related in various ways to the people of God.(18*) In the first place we must recall the people to whom the testament and the promises were given and from whom Christ was born according to the flesh.(125) On account of their fathers this people remains most dear to God, for God does not repent of the gifts He makes nor of the calls He issues.(126)
But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind. Nor is God far distant from those who in shadows and images seek the unknown God, for it is He who gives to all men life and breath and all things,(127) and as Saviour wills that all men be saved.
 
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There are born agasin catholics, not all hold to the "infallibility" of the Pope, especially the current one. If the catholic church is to be used as a vehicle for the false prophet God will make certain to call His own out of it. We won't win them over with condemnation but with directing them to thier Bible which clearly tells us ONE way-Jesus.
 
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*that would be "false prophet, comma, God...."
 

Hizikyah

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Mattithyah 23:9, ""Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven."

(Ecclesiastical Latin papa from Greek papas, a variant of pappas father, in classical Latin pappas — Juvenal, "Satires" 6:633).


The title pope, once used with far greater latitude (see below, section V), is at present employed solely to denote the Bishop of Rome, who, in virtue of his position as successor of St. Peter, is the chief pastor of the whole Church, the Vicar of Christ upon earth.

Besides the bishopric of the Roman Diocese, certain other dignities are held by the pope as well as the supreme and universal pastorate: he is Archbishop of the Roman Province, Primate of Italy and the adjacent islands, and sole Patriarch of the Western Church. The Church's doctrine as to the pope was authoritatively declared in the Vatican Council in the Constitution "Pastor Aeternus". The four chapters of that Constitution deal respectively with the office of Supreme Head conferred on St. Peter, the perpetuity of this office in the person of the Roman pontiff, the pope's jurisdiction over the faithful, and his supreme authority to define in all questions of faith and morals. This last point has been sufficiently discussed in the article INFALLIBILITY, and will be only incidentally touched on here.

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: The Pope
 
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"There are born again catholics"


Yes there are ... but there is no longer any loyalty to the RCC

I know some

All have walked away from the practices of RCC tradition

So they are really no longer "Catholics"

Typical Catholic bashing is also a ruse in essence because, even thought the organization's teachings are laced with apostasy, the mantel of a Euro-centric end time "antichrist" is bogus

It is the Muslim intransigence that will produce this setting
 

Hizikyah

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1 Timothy 2:[SUP]5 [/SUP]For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,


Yet Catholic claims Mary mediates

from a Catholic site:

"Mary, Mother of Salvation How to Explain the “Co-Redemptrix” to Evangelicals"

"She is the Mediatrix. She wants to help you with your prayers and bring you closer to God."
Mary, Mother of Salvation | Catholic Answers

Scripture says different:

1 Timothy 2:[SUP]5 [/SUP]For One is Yahweh; and One Mediator between Yahweh and men: the Man,Yahshua Messiah