Cain and Nathan = 666

[granpa]

Qayin = get
u = and
Nathan = give

Hebrew_alphabet#Numeric_values_of_letters

Qayin u Nathan = 666

Shorten it to

Qayin u Than = 616

From this we get Jonathan = Jonah Than

Jonah = wine or dove
Than = shark

Be wise like Than's but be harmless like doves

 

[oldhermit]

Qayin = get
u = and
Nathan = give

Qayin u Nathan = 666

Shorten it to

Qayin u Than = 616

From this we get Jonathan = Jonah Than

Be wise like Than's but the harmless like doves

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[kennethcadwell]

So what are you trying to say by this ?

Is this another false attempt to try and claim the antichrist / man of sin has already came ?

 

[Reborn]

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You forgot "???????????????????????????????" X 3
Just wondering?

 

[Tintin]

This is grasping at straws, even for you, Granpa.

 

[sealabeag]

The oblivious troll is the greatest troll.

 

[granpa]

At-a-glance/The Bible - Religion-wiki

666 years after the birth of Cain is the birth of Nimrod.

let he who has wisdom count the Nimrod of the beast

 

[Tintin]

At-a-glance/The Bible - Religion-wiki

666 years after the birth of Cain is the birth of Nimrod.

let he who has wisdom count the Nimrod of the beast

We don't know when Nimrod was born and the time-span between the two men is closer to 2,000 years than 666 years. What version of the Bible do you read? It's rather unorthodox.

 

[granpa]

let he who has wisdom count the Nimrod of the beast for it is the number of an Enosh (Anshar/Ashur)

Ashur (god) - Religion-wiki

When Assyria conquered Babylon in the Sargonid period (8th-7th centuries BCE), Assyrian scribes began to write the name of Ashur with the cuneiform signs AN.SHAR, literally "whole heaven" in Akkadian, the language of Babylon. The intention seems to have been to put Ashur at the head of the Babylonian pantheon, where Anshar and his counterpart Kishar ("whole earth") preceded even Enlil and Ninlil

 

[oldhermit]

let he who has wisdom count the Nimrod of the beast for it is the number of an Enosh (Anshar/Ashur)

Ashur (god) - Religion-wiki

When Assyria conquered Babylon in the Sargonid period (8th-7th centuries BCE), Assyrian scribes began to write the name of Ashur with the cuneiform signs AN.SHAR, literally "whole heaven" in Akkadian, the language of Babylon. The intention seems to have been to put Ashur at the head of the Babylonian pantheon, where Anshar and his counterpart Kishar ("whole earth") preceded even Enlil and Ninlil

Let he who has wisdom learn to read the scriptures and leave all this other nonsense alone.

 

[granpa]

it sounds like you are saying that we shouldn't study the Word of God

 

[oldhermit]

it sounds like you are saying that we shouldn't study the Word of God

You need to read my post again.

 

[Tintin]

it sounds like you are saying that we shouldn't study the Word of God

Yes, we should but not in the manner that you erm... 'study' the Bible.

 

[granpa]

At-a-glance/The Bible - Religion-wiki

Cush begot Nimrod; he began to be a gibbor on the earth.
And he began to be a gibbor hunter before YHWH.

The unfallen were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the gibborim who were of Elam, men of Shem.

 

[dcontroversal]

This is grasping at straws, even for you, Granpa.

Ummmm, I was thinking he hit the medical Maryjane store in Denver.........whaaaaaaaattttt!

 

[Tintin]

At-a-glance/The Bible - Religion-wiki

Cush begot Nimrod; he began to be a gibbor on the earth.
And he began to be a gibbor hunter before YHWH.

The unfallen were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the gibborim who were of Elam, men of Shem.

You can't combine a pre-Flood verse with a post-Flood verse like that. Also, gibbor? What Bible are you reading?

 

[kennethcadwell]

At-a-glance/The Bible - Religion-wiki

Cush begot Nimrod; he began to be a gibbor on the earth.
And he began to be a gibbor hunter before YHWH.

The unfallen were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the gibborim who were of Elam, men of Shem.

Where do you get unfallen at in this scripture. The actual scripture says this;


Genesis 6:4
There were giants ( Nephilim ) in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.


These were angels that left there abode in heaven and took on human women as brides, and had children with them. The outcome was a race of very tall people, which Goliath came from. If you look it up you will even find reports of groups of human races, their skeletons found ranging from 6 to 9 feet tall.

 

[Tintin]

Where do you get unfallen at in this scripture. The actual scripture says this;


Genesis 6:4
There were giants ( Nephilim ) in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.


These were angels that left there abode in heaven and took on human women as brides, and had children with them. The outcome was a race of very tall people, which Goliath came from. If you look it up you will even find reports of groups of human races, their skeletons found ranging from 6 to 9 feet tall.

Yes, the Nephilim were 'fallen', not 'unfallen' beings.

 

[SoulWeaver]

Lol I saw a response in my feedback and instantly knew who was the thread starter, lol xD ... forgive me granpa - I really like you - but how are you coming up with all this stuff, and plus when you word it so mysteriously, it makes it so funny
You're commendable for the research you're doing and persistance to share knowledge, one just must like you for that, but I think you're digging for knowledge on a wrong place.
God's wisdom is given to the babes and to the humble.
Things of God are not a super top secret puzzle to be figured out, they are plain as day to those who truly believe.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

 

[JesusLives]

Blond here....just wondering grandpa....just how many people have you brought to a saving knowledge of Jesus with this particular information you are trying to share here? If the count is -0- then maybe you need to try a new approach as sharing the gospel of Jesus is much more profitable. Jesus Saves......