Muhammad or Jesus?

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twotwo

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How much do you love Jesus?
White recounted the recent incident when ISIS militants beheaded four kids, all of whom were under the age of 15, when the kids refused to say that they would follow the Prophet Muhammad and told the ISIS fighters that they will always "love" and "follow" Jesus.

"ISIS turned up and they said to the children, 'you say the words that you will follow Muhammad.' The Children, all under 15, four of them, they said, 'no, we love Yasua [Jesus]. We have always loved Yasua. We have always followed Yasua. Yasua has always been with us.'" White said. "[The Militants] said, 'say the words!' [The Children] said, 'no, we can't do that.' They chopped all their heads off."

http://www.christianpost.com/news/vicar-of-baghdad-four-iraqi-christian-kids-beheaded-after-refusing-to-convert-to-islam-telling-isis-militants-no-we-love-jesus-130553


Really impressive for 15 year old children!
 

wattie

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There is the ultimate test.. when faced with the possibility of death for professing Jesus as our Saviour, do we still profess?
This really gets to the base of your convictions about Jesus.

I would hope at that moment I would continue to profess His name, but in the heat of the moment, would I?

Genuine faith in Jesus- it's rare.
 

Blain

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When I became saved I knew that I might have to suffer greatly for his name sake, I knew I might face death and I knew that cost could indeed be great. But I accepted all this from the start. I do not fear death and on more than one occasion I have faced it. There is no doubt in my mind that if the situation was reversed and I was in one of those kids place I would never renounce his name. But the thing is we all might say that however I wonder if the situation actually happened how much of it is true.
 
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When I became saved I knew that I might have to suffer greatly for his name sake, I knew I might face death and I knew that cost could indeed be great.
Why would you face persecution and possible death in the United States for being a Christians? Perhaps this would be true if your were a professing homosexual Christian.
 
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This has to be the ultimate in ignorance for parties on BOTH sides.

The Koranic 'Muhammad' is, in fact, an epithet representing the Biblical Jesus Christ!

Thus...if put in that situation, it is entirely appropriate to profess 'Muhammad'!

This is the quintessential example of where ignorance kills.

It is an absolute atrocity for loss of life at the hands of ignorant Islamic tards, when they can easily be overcome with just a little bit of knowledge.

Come on people....
 

crossnote

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This has to be the ultimate in ignorance for parties on BOTH sides.

The Koranic 'Muhammad' is, in fact, an epithet representing the Biblical Jesus Christ!

Thus...if put in that situation, it is entirely appropriate to profess 'Muhammad'!

This is the quintessential example of where ignorance kills.

It is an absolute atrocity for loss of life at the hands of ignorant Islamic tards, when they can easily be overcome with just a little bit of knowledge.

Come on people....
noun:epithet1.any word or phrase applied to a person or thing to describe an actual or attributed quality:

Maybe in some secret hieroglyphic, but in common parlance...nope.
 

crossnote

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How much do you love Jesus?
White recounted the recent incident when ISIS militants beheaded four kids, all of whom were under the age of 15, when the kids refused to say that they would follow the Prophet Muhammad and told the ISIS fighters that they will always "love" and "follow" Jesus.

"ISIS turned up and they said to the children, 'you say the words that you will follow Muhammad.' The Children, all under 15, four of them, they said, 'no, we love Yasua [Jesus]. We have always loved Yasua. We have always followed Yasua. Yasua has always been with us.'" White said. "[The Militants] said, 'say the words!' [The Children] said, 'no, we can't do that.' They chopped all their heads off."

http://www.christianpost.com/news/vicar-of-baghdad-four-iraqi-christian-kids-beheaded-after-refusing-to-convert-to-islam-telling-isis-militants-no-we-love-jesus-130553


Really impressive for 15 year old children!
Puts most of us 'theological toodily doos' to shame.
 

Joidevivre

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Those little kids knew that Muhammad was not Jesus.
 
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Kaycie

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Wow, what strength and maturity at such a young age! I hope and pray that if I am ever put to that test that I will not shrink back or lose my courage. I know my heart will never deny my Lord. I have been close to being completely murdered before, and have experienced pain- but not that much pain- of being beheaded like my brother John the baptist- for whom i've shed tears. My confidence that I could die for my Lord is strong, but I wish it was even stronger yet. "God pleeease help me pass every test that You put before me."
 
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How much do you love Jesus?
White recounted the recent incident when ISIS militants beheaded four kids, all of whom were under the age of 15, when the kids refused to say that they would follow the Prophet Muhammad and told the ISIS fighters that they will always "love" and "follow" Jesus.

"ISIS turned up and they said to the children, 'you say the words that you will follow Muhammad.' The Children, all under 15, four of them, they said, 'no, we love Yasua [Jesus]. We have always loved Yasua. We have always followed Yasua. Yasua has always been with us.'" White said. "[The Militants] said, 'say the words!' [The Children] said, 'no, we can't do that.' They chopped all their heads off."​

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


 

clarkthompson

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If we have to die for Jesus it is a honor He died for us.
 

Blain

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Why would you face persecution and possible death in the United States for being a Christians? Perhaps this would be true if your were a professing homosexual Christian.
Because according to the bible that time will come and judging by the signs of the end times that time is coming soon
 
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noun:epithet1.any word or phrase applied to a person or thing to describe an actual or attributed quality:

Maybe in some secret hieroglyphic, but in common parlance...nope.

It is the only logical conclusion to draw after a serious study of the Holy Bible as compared to the Koran.

Semantics is most assuredly NOT worth dying over...
 
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hopesprings

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Jesus...all the way
 

crossnote

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It is the only logical conclusion to draw after a serious study of the Holy Bible as compared to the Koran.

Semantics is most assuredly NOT worth dying over...
So the author of the Koran had special revelation? Or did he plagiarize? Or was it a failed attempt to write a record about Jesus? Or what?

Never mind, the story of the 15 year olds bravery in choosing Jesus over Mohammed far surpasses a moot point about the Koran.
 
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So the author of the Koran had special revelation? Or did he plagiarize? Or was it a failed attempt to write a record about Jesus? Or what?

Never mind, the story of the 15 year olds bravery in choosing Jesus over Mohammed far surpasses a moot point about the Koran.

The Koran never claims to be divine. It does, however, claim that it merely paraphrased Biblical scripture and converted it into Arabic for consumption by its intended audience.

Not rocket science.

Nothing to be afraid of.

Now you know why the two books contain the same stories.

One is just a 'Cliff Notes' for the other.

Until people study both The Holy Bible and the Koran side by side, the ignorant stereotypes will continue....and hate and killing that go along with it...
 

crossnote

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No hatred, I feel sorry for those who have bought into such a lie.
What I've read of the Koran in English I find little similarity to the Bible.
 
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No hatred, I feel sorry for those who have bought into such a lie.
What I've read of the Koran in English I find little similarity to the Bible.

Like I said....for those that STUDY both books....
 
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servantotehmosthigh

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This has to be the ultimate in ignorance for parties on BOTH sides.

The Koranic 'Muhammad' is, in fact, an epithet representing the Biblical Jesus Christ!

Thus...if put in that situation, it is entirely appropriate to profess 'Muhammad'!

This is the quintessential example of where ignorance kills.

It is an absolute atrocity for loss of life at the hands of ignorant Islamic tards, when they can easily be overcome with just a little bit of knowledge.

Come on people....
How can we state that because " Muhammad is a epithet of 'Jesus' Christ, we should acknowledge him and profess him to be a prophet without really studying the true biblical history and genealogy of Muhammad? Christ's blood line is an offshoot to the line of David, who is from the tribe of Judah. Therefore , he cam from the offshoot of Jacob and Isaac. However Mohammed's bloodline is traced to Ishmael. This is a problem because ONLY the SEED of Issac was only blessed with prophet hood which would claim Mohammed's prophet hood to be null and void. GOD does not instill a promise and blessing and then change the rules. Ishmael was only blessed with a great land hos seed will be princes , 12 princes to be exact to come from him and to be fruitful (many children)