100 Percent Proof that there is No Rapture

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I know that this is a big controversy but if you read this pdf file with understanding, you will know one hundred percent with no doubt that there is no rapture. You will also be able to easily prove it to anyone.
 

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Prove it to me and that's a canned answer because you cannot, I'm not that stupid.
 
At least read it without making decision before you read it. Then, if you still believe in a rapture, show me in scripture where it says that there is a rapture.
 
While the word rapture is not found the word PAROUSIA is and context dictates that JESUS will come and gather the saints of God at the end of the age prior to the ORGE of God being poured out upon an unbelieving world.....You could post 999999999 pdf files and it will not change my mind concerning the body presence of Christ, that is to say our gathering together unto him.... 2nd Thessalonians 2, 1st Thessalonians 4, 1st Corinthians 15, The parable of the wheat and tares, Matthew 24, Luke 21, Mark 13, Etc.
 
But what does 2 Thessalonians 2 say? Does it not state clearly that satan will be here on earth claiming to be GOD before we gather back to CHRIST? If so, then that means we are not going anywhere until the end of this age.

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
 
veryelect said:
But what does 2 Thessalonians 2 say? Does it not state clearly that satan will be here on earth claiming to be GOD before we gather back to CHRIST? If so, then that means we are not going anywhere until the end of this age.

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
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1st It does not teach that there is no gathering together of the saints (rapture so called)
2nd All it teaches is that these two things must OCCUR before the gathering together of the saints
3rd I do not ascribe to the imminent return of Jesus and the imminent (rapture) of the Lord's churches
4th If that is what you are getting at you should add the word IMMINENT

The body presence of Christ and our gathering together unto him (rapture) is a reality...just not in the imminent sense!
 
veryelect said:
But what does 2 Thessalonians 2 say? Does it not state clearly that satan will be here on earth claiming to be GOD before we gather back to CHRIST? If so, then that means we are not going anywhere until the end of this age.

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
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Many believe that the church will be taken out of the world before the Tribulation, however, the Scripture say no such thing.
 
veryelect said:
I know that this is a big controversy but if you read this pdf file with understanding, you will know one hundred percent with no doubt that there is no rapture. You will also be able to easily prove it to anyone.
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many have made the exact same claim but trying to disprove scripture.... It cannot be done
 
I do not believe in a rapture, because it is not a word that appears in the Bible. To say nothing of the tortorous twistings of pre-mill dispensationalists.

But you lost me at "Scholars all believe that Paul wrote Hebrews!" NOT! While several hundred years ago, Paul was thought to have written Hebrews no one believes that in the academic world these days.

For one, Paul consistently identified himself at the introduction to his letters, and Hebrews does not do that.

The second thing is that the writing is very inconsistent and different from Pauls' writing style and language. Even an amanenuesis would not make as big a difference as the difference between Paul's known letters and Hebrews.

And sorry, Strong's is over 100 years old. Try to find a newer source for you word studies.

But thanks for trying to debunk this recent myth of the rapture.
 
Good point, but you should not use the word rapture then. You see, there are millions of people out there that believe we are gathered back to CHRIST before the tribulation and they call that 'Rapture'. If those people believe that, then when satan comes pretending to be CHRIST, they will fall for the deception and worship satan.

Eze 13:20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.

The problem with Ezekiel 13 is that those souls may not get torn from their arms until the Millennium. And as you know, the Millennium is a tough road to go on.
 
veryelect said:
Good point, but you should not use the word rapture then. You see, there are millions of people out there that believe we are gathered back to CHRIST before the tribulation and they call that 'Rapture'. If those people believe that, then when satan comes pretending to be CHRIST, they will fall for the deception and worship satan.

Eze 13:20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.

The problem with Ezekiel 13 is that those souls may not get torn from their arms until the Millennium. And as you know, the Millennium is a tough road to go on.
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The word rapture is nothing but a man made word for the gathering of the saints, how can using a word for the event make it where we will fall for the deception and worship satan? I have already been tested by a false Christ and I knew who Christ really is.
 
If you are using a newer source for your WORD studies, you are setting yourself up for the end time deception. Changes in words here and there result in hiding the true meaning in scripture. You see, the original manuscripts have not changed, but some modern tools use modernized words, which end up changing the meaning in scripture. This is conveniently timed to the end time.
 
While the word "rapture" is not found in the Word of Elohim, what the word "rapture" means by implication is found in the Word of Elohim.

Wikipedia
Rapture is a term in Christian eschatology which refers to the "being caught up" discussed in 1 Thessalonians 4:16, when the "dead in Christ" and "we who are alive and remain" will be "caught up in the clouds" to meet "the Lord in the air".[SUP][1][/SUP]
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What the real issue is those that claim there is a pre-tribulation "rapture", which we can clearly see right from the quote is not possible.
 
A man made word can cause someone to fall for the deception because most Christians never actually study the Bible. They listen to a preacher that says they will be raptured out before the tribulation. For example, the Left Behind movies. When satan comes claiming to be GOD, they will think he is going to rapture them out.
 
Okay so ya'll gonna make it about that, Then why didn't God make Lot go through the destruction?
 
You see, that is a problem right there.
Lot didn't go through the destruction because he was a righteous man. The same as the elect. If you fall for satan because you believe he is JESUS, then you will go through the destruction. That destruction is GOD'S Wrath. You will end up in the Millennium. If you are raptured out of here before satan comes, then how are you going to stand against him?

Who would get delivered up to give a testimony against satan?

Mar 13:9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
Mar 13:10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.
Mar 13:11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

GOD isn't going to use someone left behind as rapture believers believe in. It's the elect that stand against satan and it is the elect that know Truth.
 
veryelect said:
A man made word can cause someone to fall for the deception because most Christians never actually study the Bible. They listen to a preacher that says they will be raptured out before the tribulation. For example, the Left Behind movies. When satan comes claiming to be GOD, they will think he is going to rapture them out.
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buddy I hope you have your seat belt on because this topic is one crazy ride, I have been in many rapture debates and I learned there is simply no debating it ppl will believe what they believe and good luck changing their minds
 
Butch5 said:
Many believe that the church will be taken out of the world before the Tribulation, however, the Scripture say no such thing.
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Unless you choose to take just one verse and bend it enough times while reading it out of context
 
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