who was here before adam and eve

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And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

If God told them to replenish ..that means the earth was full of beings before them,
Replenish= repopulate

Let's hear your thoughts

Genesis 1:28
 

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And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

If God told them to replenish ..that means the earth was full of beings before them,
Replenish= repopulate

Let's hear your thoughts

Genesis 1:28
Not a particularly good translation...

replenish...

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מָלָא מָלֵא
mâlê' mâlâ'
maw-lay', maw-law'
A primitive root, to fill or (intransitively) be full of, in a wide application (literally and figuratively): - accomplish, confirm, + consecrate, be at an end, be expired, be fenced, fill, fulfil, (be, become, X draw, give in, go) fully (-ly, -ly set, tale), [over-] flow, fulness, furnish, gather (selves, together), presume, replenish, satisfy, set, space, take a [hand-] full, + have wholly.
Total KJV occurrences: 251

To fill.
 
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And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

If God told them to replenish ..that means the earth was full of beings before them,
Replenish= repopulate

Let's hear your thoughts

Genesis 1:28
God created the animals and plants before He made man. And to replenish mean to fill the land with life, and which back it was the fruits of their loins.
 
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Replenish means to*make*full*or*complete*again"
 

john832

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Replenish means to*make*full*or*complete*again"
The English word replenish is not the Hebrew word here, the Hebrew word simply means to fill up or make full.
 
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-_________- genesis 9:1. And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish" the earth.

So replenish there is wrong as well ?
 
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Hey nice to see you again Simiel, hope you are well.

As far as replenishment, it does not always mean to repopulate. Replenishing can also mean to give supply to something that is lacking (ie: to simply populate). So in this verse it would seem to me to imply the earth was somewhat empty of human life, therefore to replenish the earth be to supply it with more humans. This coincides well with the line before of "be fruitful and multiply." As well as the lines afterwards to subdue the earth and dominate everything living in it.
 
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Heyy G.I.S hope all is well with you.. It's been a long time
 

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In some ancient English dictionary from the 1700s, it shows the word replenish once meant to fill. The word replenish had a different meaning than what it does today.
 
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-_________- genesis 9:1. And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish" the earth.

So replenish there is wrong as well ?
Basically this verse is saying that He told them to start getting busy and make babies to fill the earth to make it complete, sowing.
 

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The ESV has a much better translation of Gen. 1:28 than the KJV. It is much closer to the Hebrew, which John has already explained!

"And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” Gen. 1:18
 

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-_________- genesis 9:1. And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish" the earth.

So replenish there is wrong as well ?
Do you know what Strong's concordance is?
 

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And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. If God told them to replenish ..that means the earth was full of beings before them, Replenish= repopulate Let's hear your thoughts Genesis 1:28
Simiel, greetings.

Let me urge you to take a few hours of a few days & learn the Greek & Hebrew fonts. I say fonts because Greek & Hebrew basically have mostly the same alphabet that English has, though the shapes of the letters can be as different as a cursive f is from a printed f.

With Greek, a great number of the letters are virtually the same even in shape as English letters. A is A. E is E, etc., though the spoken names of the letters are a bit different.

With Hebrew the letter shapes are even more different, but it is no big task to learn to write out the Hebrew alphabet. Probably you can memorize it in 2 hours.

So after you learn the letters and what sounds they make, you can then use Greek & Hebrew lexicons, which can be a big step above Strong's.

Then you get you an interlinear translation or access it free at Biblehub.com. Learn to look up words in Greek & Hebrew, as English words in English versions often do not have the precise meaning of the original (though generally they are close enough for reading).

You might invest in a simple edition of a Bible computer program which will let you click on a Hebrew or Greek word & bring up the lexicon definition. I think you can do this for $100.

That will save you from posting replenish = repopulate.

I don't know of any Bible evidence for any pre-Adamic race of humanoids on earth. Man is a race descended from Adam.

I don't know whether or not the angels did things on earth before earth was made for man. Some may think so from reading Ezekiel 28 & Isaiah 14, which they take to refer to satan. If satan is the subject, when was he in Eden?
 
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So according the the strong concordance since you like using that.
Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness*was*upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Genesis1:2 should say and the earth "became" "a desolation" and waste....

Was = has yaw = became
With out form = too-hoo = desolation
Void = bohoo = waste

So what was the earth before it became a desolation and a waste / ruin?
 

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So according the the strong concordance since you like using that.
Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness*was*upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Genesis1:2 should say and the earth "became" "a desolation" and waste....

Was = has yaw = became
With out form = too-hoo = desolation
Void = bohoo = waste

So what was the earth before it became a desolation and a waste / ruin?
You can find a ton of stuff on the Gap Theory by searching the internet. I think you will find that most Hebrew scholars who write on it rule it out grammatically. IMHO I think it is possible that there is a gap between 1:1 & 1:2 (not translating "became" though in 1:2). I don't tie the possibility of a gap to a theory of pre-Adamic race though.

I am pretty sure that "became" is at least an unnecessary, if not an impossible translation for verse 2.

Another possibility is that The Lord made the universe, he first produced it in a tohu & bohu condition, then fashioned it in 6 days to be fit for man.

If he first created it perfect, then later it became tohu & bohu, that suggested some catastrophe, and the only possibility I know of for a catastrophe would be the fall of satan & his angels.
 

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And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

If God told them to replenish ..that means the earth was full of beings before them,
Replenish= repopulate

Let's hear your thoughts

Genesis 1:28
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Adam and Eve were first. Be fruitful and multiply was instructed to them in the garden after they were created to populate the earth for the first time. Bible is pretty self explanatory in Genesis just read it.
 
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Many times understanding the Hebrew can resolve a lot of confusion about understanding scripture.
 

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To the best of my knowledge the only pre-existent one would be God.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

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And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

If God told them to replenish ..that means the earth was full of beings before them,
Replenish= repopulate

Let's hear your thoughts

Genesis 1:28
First, there was a creation event prior to the foundations of the earth being laid. The angels were created beings. Second, the "Sons of God" rejoiced WHEN those foundations were laid. That'd be the angels rejoicing. Third, Satan walked in the original garden of Eden which was a ton different than the one listed in Genesis.

Here's a hypothesis. God has destroyed the earth due to the sins of men, and has said that He will do so again. When Satan and a third of the host of heaven "sinned" Satan WAS ON THE EARTH. Why were the angels rejoicing when the earth was first created? Why is it that Satan, pre fall is walking in a different Garden of Eden from Adam and Eve? Let's assume that when sin on the earth grows rampant, God destroys the earth. It is a theory that seems to fit.


So does replenish work? if the original group on the earth was angels, which we have Satan walking on it, in the garden, in a much different state, then everything seems to fit. This is the only way I can see having a prefill Satan in such a different Garden. Obviously the fall of the angels was prior to when Adam and Eve were created.
 
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If satan and his kind had already fallen to Earth, why then does God declare the completion of creation as 'very good'? They would've marred creation with sin and its consequences. The simplest and most logical explanation is that they were kicked from Heaven after God created man and woman but prior to the serpent tempting Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.
Some of you needlessly complicate the Scriptures. There was no new creation between the first two verses of Genesis, there was no Great Flood prior to Noah, there was no second Garden of Eden. Only one.