fallen angels

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Jruiz

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When Angels fell from heaven onto the earth, how did they mate with humans if they were in spirit?
 

oldhermit

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When Angels fell from heaven onto the earth, how did they mate with humans if they were in spirit?
They didn't. Jesus was very clear that angels are not sexual being.
 

Jruiz

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So it's all a "conspiracy",false docterine? What about the giants in the bible?
 

oldhermit

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So it's all a "conspiracy",false docterine? What about the giants in the bible?
There is no conspiracy about it. It is simply a misunderstanding of the passages in Genesis 6:2. That has nothing to do with fallen angels.
 

Jimbone

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There is no conspiracy about it. It is simply a misunderstanding of the passages in Genesis 6:2. That has nothing to do with fallen angels.
So "the sons of God" aren't angels? Let me guess, they are the sons of Seth?
 
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[SUP]Job 1:6 [/SUP]Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.

Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.

Gen. 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

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oldhermit

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Thanks, I was just curious if that was you view.
You are welcome. I think what gives most people so much trouble with this text is the fact that they automatically associate the term "sons of God" with angels. This is not how this term is used else where in scripture.
 
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Jacob_Fitzgerald

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I wonder if these passages have anything to do with the matter:

Jude 6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

2 Peter 2:4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Job 4:18
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly:
 

oldhermit

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I wonder if these passages have anything to do with the matter:

Jude 6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

2 Peter 2:4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Job 4:18
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly:
This is a good question. I think one would first have to prove from scripture that when these angels were cast out that they were cast out upon the earth rather than being consigned to the unseen world.
 
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Gen. 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

The Bible says that the sons of God saw the daughters of the children of men and took them wives,which sounds like the never encountered women before which seems to not apply to the sons of Seth for they knew of women for years.

Also if it is the sons of Seth and they are sons of God why woyuld they mingle with the wicked.

Also if it the sons of Seth then why did it produce people that were of old,people of reknown,and were terribly wicked,which sounds like it produced people that were not on earth until the time of Adam until then,which sounds like there were people before Adam and Eve and the fallen angels disrupted them.

It could be that the fallen angels possessed people and that is why they were terribly wicked.
 

oldhermit

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Also if it is the sons of Seth and they are sons of God why would they mingle with the wicked.
This precisely the point. The marrying of the descendents of Seth with the descendents of Cain resulted in the moral decline of humanity. As chapter six progresses we see that only one man was still recognized as righteous among all humanity.

Also if it the sons of Seth then why did it produce people that were of old,people of reknown,and were terribly wicked,which sounds like it produced people that were not on earth until the time of Adam until then,which sounds like there were people before Adam and Eve and the fallen angels disrupted them.
This was simply a matter of human genetics, nothing more. There is nothing in scripture to suggest that angels can reproduce after any fashion much less reproduce the human gene code. In fact, Jesus tells us that angels neither marry nor are they given in marriage. Since this is true it is quite contradictory to read Gen. 6:2 and draw a conclusion that angels did precisely what Jesus said they do not do. The term sons of God must be understood according to the pattern of its usage in scripture. Every other time this phrase is used (with one possible exception) it refers to man. That being true, by what rule of interpretation does one assign to this term some other definition - angels?

It could be that the fallen angels possessed people and that is why they were terribly wicked
There is nothing in the text to even suggest this notion.
 

Hizikyah

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I wonder if these passages have anything to do with the matter:

Jude 6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

2 Peter 2:4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Job 4:18
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly:
Thank you for consulting the word!
 

jb

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They didn't. Jesus was very clear that angels are not sexual being.
They did, for it is so recorded in Gen 6v1-12, hence the existence of Goliath! 1Sam 17
 

oldhermit

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They did, for it is so recorded in Gen 6v1-12, hence the existence of Goliath! 1Sam 17
Is Jesus correct or is you interpretation of "sons of God" in Gen. 6 correct. You say they did, Jesus said they don't. Which one is right?
 

jb

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Is Jesus correct or is you interpretation of "sons of God" in Gen. 6 correct. You say they did, Jesus said they don't. Which one is right?
You need to have a look at Job chapters 1 & 2!
 

jb

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I now those passage quite well. What makes you think "sons of God" in these passage means angels?
Because the context of this particular Scripture doesn't give any other meaning than that the "sons of God" are angels, now if you can't or won't see that then that's fine and I'm sure you can live with that!

However, maybe you should try doing a bit of a study on how the term "son/s of God" is used in Scripture!

Yahweh Shalom