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The Deity of Jesus Christ
Scriptural Proof That Jesus Christ is God


As our society rapidly approaches the end- time events of the book of Revelation, Satan and his evil forces are doing everything within their power to deceive humanity and to condition men to worship an individual known as "the beast" or "the Antichrist" (Rev. 13:1-18). Satan has always had a desire to be worshipped as God (Isa. 14:12; Luke 4:7), and he will be worshipped as God in the coming Tribulation Period (II Thes. 2:3-4). In order to bring this about, Satan realizes that he must first DETHRONE the true God in the hearts and minds of people. That is, he must attack the Deity of Jesus Christ.
This attack on the Lord Jesus Christ is being executed in many ways by many different groups. Various cult groups, New Age groups, and even modern Bible translators have their own methods of robbing Jesus Christ of His Deity. Many young men today enter Bible colleges and seminaries believing in the Deity of Christ, and then graduate four years later with less faith than when they enrolled!
What about you, friend? What do you believe about Jesus Christ? Can you support your beliefs with God's word? That's the real issue: what saith the Scripture?
We challenge you to get your Bible (KJV) and check all the references that we are about to give. We are going to offer twelve Scriptural proofs for the Deity of Jesus Christ. That is, you are going to see twelve Bible proofs that Jesus Christ is God. Please do NOT take our word for anything. Our world is filled with deception because too many people believe what they hear without checking the facts. We urge you to search the Scriptures for yourself, and form your own convictions with God's word.

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Is God Incarnate[/SIZE]​
Quoting from Isaiah 7:14, Matthew 1:23 says, "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." According to both of these verses, Jesus was "God with us" when He walked upon this earth. He wasn't merely "God's chosen one with us" or "God's Son with us." As I Timothy 3:16 states, "God was manifest in the flesh." John 1:14 tells us that "the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us..." In Zechariah 12:10, GOD said that HE (God) would be "pierced" by sinners, and Revelation 1:7 states that Jesus Christ Himself fulfilled this prophecy! Friend, the Bible presents Jesus Christ as much more than a great prophet and teacher. God's word presents Jesus Christ as God incarnate.

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Is Eternal[/SIZE]​
In John 10:28, Jesus said, "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." If Jesus Christ isn't eternal, then how does He have the power to give "eternal life"?
Micah 5:2 states that Jesus Christ is "from everlasting", which is exactly what Psalm 93:2 and Isaiah 63:16 say about God!
In John 8:58, Jesus said to the Pharisees, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." The term "I am" is the exact term that God used in Exodus 3:14 in reference to Himself! Jesus professed to be the eternal God of the Bible.

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Has Divine Names[/SIZE]​
Check these references for yourself. In Matthew 22:42-45, Jesus claims to be the "Lord" of Psalm 110:1. He allows Thomas to address Him as "My Lord and my God" in John 20:28.
He is the "everlasting Father" and "The mighty God" of Isaiah 9:6.
According to His own words in John 10:11-14, He is the "shepherd" of Psalm 23:1, Psalm 80:1, and Ezekiel 34:12.
God is the "saviour" in Isaiah 43:3, 43:11, 45:15, 45:21, Hosea 13:4, Luke 1:47, and I Timothy 4:10, yet this same title is given to Jesus Christ in Luke 2:11, Philippians 3:20, II Timothy 1:10, and II Peter 2:20.
God is the "Rock" of Deuteronomy 32:4, 32:15, 32:18, 32:30-31, I Samuel 2:2, and Psalm 18:31, yet this title is given to the Lord Jesus Christ in I Corinthians 10:1-4, I Peter 2:7-8, and Romans 9:33.
God is "light" in Psalm 27:1 and Micah 7:8, and then Jesus is "light" in John 1:4-9 and in John 8:12.
In Isaiah 44:6 God says, "...I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." In Revelation 1:17 Jesus Christ says, "...Fear not; I am the first and the last."
The Scriptures are clear: Jesus Christ is the God of the Old Testament.

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Claimed Equality with God[/SIZE]​
Jesus says in Matthew 28:19, "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" If Jesus Christ isn't Deity, then why did He include Himself in the Holy Trinity?
Jesus says in John 14:9, "...he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" Is the Father someone other than Jesus Christ? No, not according to Jesus Christ.
In John 10:30, Jesus says, "I and my Father are one." Isn't that clear enough?
Philippians 2:6 says that Jesus was in the "form of God", and that he thought it not robbery to be "equal with God"!
The Jesus Christ of the New Testament claimed to be "one" with God and "equal" with God.

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ is Omnipresent[/SIZE]​
Only God has the ability to be everywhere at once, yet Jesus Christ claims this ability.
In Matthew 18:20, He says, "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." How could this be possible if Jesus were not Deity?
The same is true in Matthew 28:20 where Jesus says, "...lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen." How could He be with each individual Christian always and be in Heaven at the same time? He is God, for only God has such attributes!

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Is Omnipotent[/SIZE]​
That is, He is all powerful. He has all power.
Revelation 19:6 states, "...the Lord God omnipotent reigneth." Then I Timothy 6:15 says that Jesus Christ Himself is "...the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;" If Jesus is the ONLY Potentate, then He must be the One of Revelation 19:6, God Almighty!
Also see Colossians 2:9-10, Revelation 2:26, and Matthew 28:18.

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Is Omniscient[/SIZE]​
To be omniscient is to have all knowledge, unlike normal men. The Bible declares that Jesus was indeed omniscient.
Unlike normal men, Jesus Christ had knowledge of specific details about His own death. In Matthew 16:21, Jesus said that He would go to Jerusalem, suffer many things at the hands of the scribes and the elders, be killed, and then be resurrected the third day. He repeats this prophecy in Matthew 20:19.
Matthew 17:27 offers the account of Jesus knowing of a certain coin in a fish's mouth before the fish is caught!
He knew specific details about a woman's life whom He had never met (John 4:16-19). He also had all knowledge about Nathaniel in John 1:47-49.
Friend, Jesus Christ is Deity because He is omniscient.

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Has Creative Powers[/SIZE]​
John 1:1-3 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." The "Word" is the Lord Jesus Christ (John 1:14; I John 1:1-3; 5:7), and John 1:3 says that all things were made by Him!
Colossians 1:16 says, "...by him were all things created..." Consider Hebrews 1:1-3: "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;" You see, by Jesus Christ the worlds were made, and by Jesus Christ all things are upheld. He has the power to create and sustain the universe.

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Has Power Over the Elements of Nature[/SIZE]​
In Matthew 14:25, Jesus literally walks upon the sea, and in Luke 8:24, He rebukes the wind and it obeys Him. How could He perform such tasks if He weren't God? It must be understood that Jesus didn't pray for God to calm the sea; He calmed the sea Himself.
[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Received Worship[/SIZE]​
If we're wrong in teaching that the Lord Jesus Christ is God, then He must have been wrong in allowing people to worship him. Jesus Himself said, "Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." (Mat. 4:10) Why would He say this at the beginning of His ministry and then spend His ministry allowing people to worship HIM?
In Acts 10:25-26, and in Revelation 19:10, worship of anyone other than God Himself is forbidden, yet Jesus willingly received worship throughout His public ministry (John 20:28; Mat. 8:2; 9:18; 15:25; 28:9; John 9:38). If He isn't Deity, then why didn't He correct those who worshipped Him?

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Forgave Sins[/SIZE]​
"And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more." (Jer. 31:34) According to these words, it is GOD Who has the power and right to forgive sins. However, the New Testament says that Jesus Christ has this power.
Please notice Mark 2:5-11: "When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee. But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only? And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts? Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk? But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house."
Jesus Christ is God, because only God can forgive sins. It's true that He took on the form of a man for thirty-three years on this earth, but He was still God. He was God manifest in the flesh (I Tim. 3:16).
[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Had Power Over His Own Life and Death[/SIZE]​
How many people do you know who have the ability to lay down their own life and then take it up again? Jesus had this power.
Consider John 10:17-18: "Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father."
Jesus had the power over His own life and death! When He died, He willingly gave up His own spirit (Luke 23:46).
According to His own words in Revelation 1:18, Jesus Christ has "the keys of hell and of death." How could He possibly have such power if He were not God?
Friend, make no mistake about it: the Lord Jesus Christ is Deity. He came to this earth and suffered in human flesh for thirty-three years. He lived a perfectly sinless life, and then laid that life down as an eternal payment for your sins. Mohammed didn't pay for your sins, because Mohammed wasn't God. Buddha didn't pay for your sins, because Buddha wasn't God. You can't pay for your sins, because you aren't God. Only Jesus Christ is sinless, because only Jesus Christ is God. He Alone can save your soul from the eternal fires of Hell.
"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." (Acts 4:12)
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." (John 14:6)
Friend, do you know the Lord Jesus Christ as your own personal Saviour? Have you been born again? If not, be sure and call or write today for your free copy of Understanding God's Salvation Plan. Nothing in your life is more important than your eternal destiny, and no one can help you more than the Lord Jesus Christ.
Copyright © 1998 James L. Melton
 
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Right...Jesus just talked to Himself when praying to the FATHER and He's the SON...He also raised Himself from the dead, was His own Father and Son, etc. etc. too I suppose. Sorry, not the case.
 
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The Deity of Jesus Christ
Scriptural Proof That Jesus Christ is God

As our society rapidly approaches the end- time events of the book of Revelation, Satan and his evil forces are doing everything within their power to deceive humanity and to condition men to worship an individual known as "the beast" or "the Antichrist" (Rev. 13:1-18). Satan has always had a desire to be worshipped as God (Isa. 14:12; Luke 4:7), and he will be worshipped as God in the coming Tribulation Period (II Thes. 2:3-4). In order to bring this about, Satan realizes that he must first DETHRONE the true God in the hearts and minds of people. That is, he must attack the Deity of Jesus Christ.
This attack on the Lord Jesus Christ is being executed in many ways by many different groups. Various cult groups, New Age groups, and even modern Bible translators have their own methods of robbing Jesus Christ of His Deity. Many young men today enter Bible colleges and seminaries believing in the Deity of Christ, and then graduate four years later with less faith than when they enrolled!
What about you, friend? What do you believe about Jesus Christ? Can you support your beliefs with God's word? That's the real issue: what saith the Scripture?
We challenge you to get your Bible (KJV) and check all the references that we are about to give. We are going to offer twelve Scriptural proofs for the Deity of Jesus Christ. That is, you are going to see twelve Bible proofs that Jesus Christ is God. Please do NOT take our word for anything. Our world is filled with deception because too many people believe what they hear without checking the facts. We urge you to search the Scriptures for yourself, and form your own convictions with God's word.

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Is God Incarnate[/SIZE]
Quoting from Isaiah 7:14, Matthew 1:23 says, "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." According to both of these verses, Jesus was "God with us" when He walked upon this earth. He wasn't merely "God's chosen one with us" or "God's Son with us." As I Timothy 3:16 states, "God was manifest in the flesh." John 1:14 tells us that "the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us..." In Zechariah 12:10, GOD said that HE (God) would be "pierced" by sinners, and Revelation 1:7 states that Jesus Christ Himself fulfilled this prophecy! Friend, the Bible presents Jesus Christ as much more than a great prophet and teacher. God's word presents Jesus Christ as God incarnate.

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Is Eternal[/SIZE]
In John 10:28, Jesus said, "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." If Jesus Christ isn't eternal, then how does He have the power to give "eternal life"?
Micah 5:2 states that Jesus Christ is "from everlasting", which is exactly what Psalm 93:2 and Isaiah 63:16 say about God!
In John 8:58, Jesus said to the Pharisees, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." The term "I am" is the exact term that God used in Exodus 3:14 in reference to Himself! Jesus professed to be the eternal God of the Bible.

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Has Divine Names[/SIZE]
Check these references for yourself. In Matthew 22:42-45, Jesus claims to be the "Lord" of Psalm 110:1. He allows Thomas to address Him as "My Lord and my God" in John 20:28.
He is the "everlasting Father" and "The mighty God" of Isaiah 9:6.
According to His own words in John 10:11-14, He is the "shepherd" of Psalm 23:1, Psalm 80:1, and Ezekiel 34:12.
God is the "saviour" in Isaiah 43:3, 43:11, 45:15, 45:21, Hosea 13:4, Luke 1:47, and I Timothy 4:10, yet this same title is given to Jesus Christ in Luke 2:11, Philippians 3:20, II Timothy 1:10, and II Peter 2:20.
God is the "Rock" of Deuteronomy 32:4, 32:15, 32:18, 32:30-31, I Samuel 2:2, and Psalm 18:31, yet this title is given to the Lord Jesus Christ in I Corinthians 10:1-4, I Peter 2:7-8, and Romans 9:33.
God is "light" in Psalm 27:1 and Micah 7:8, and then Jesus is "light" in John 1:4-9 and in John 8:12.
In Isaiah 44:6 God says, "...I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." In Revelation 1:17 Jesus Christ says, "...Fear not; I am the first and the last."
The Scriptures are clear: Jesus Christ is the God of the Old Testament.

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Claimed Equality with God[/SIZE]
Jesus says in Matthew 28:19, "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" If Jesus Christ isn't Deity, then why did He include Himself in the Holy Trinity?
Jesus says in John 14:9, "...he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" Is the Father someone other than Jesus Christ? No, not according to Jesus Christ.
In John 10:30, Jesus says, "I and my Father are one." Isn't that clear enough?
Philippians 2:6 says that Jesus was in the "form of God", and that he thought it not robbery to be "equal with God"!
The Jesus Christ of the New Testament claimed to be "one" with God and "equal" with God.

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ is Omnipresent[/SIZE]
Only God has the ability to be everywhere at once, yet Jesus Christ claims this ability.
In Matthew 18:20, He says, "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." How could this be possible if Jesus were not Deity?
The same is true in Matthew 28:20 where Jesus says, "...lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen." How could He be with each individual Christian always and be in Heaven at the same time? He is God, for only God has such attributes!

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Is Omnipotent[/SIZE]
That is, He is all powerful. He has all power.
Revelation 19:6 states, "...the Lord God omnipotent reigneth." Then I Timothy 6:15 says that Jesus Christ Himself is "...the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;" If Jesus is the ONLY Potentate, then He must be the One of Revelation 19:6, God Almighty!
Also see Colossians 2:9-10, Revelation 2:26, and Matthew 28:18.

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Is Omniscient[/SIZE]
To be omniscient is to have all knowledge, unlike normal men. The Bible declares that Jesus was indeed omniscient.
Unlike normal men, Jesus Christ had knowledge of specific details about His own death. In Matthew 16:21, Jesus said that He would go to Jerusalem, suffer many things at the hands of the scribes and the elders, be killed, and then be resurrected the third day. He repeats this prophecy in Matthew 20:19.
Matthew 17:27 offers the account of Jesus knowing of a certain coin in a fish's mouth before the fish is caught!
He knew specific details about a woman's life whom He had never met (John 4:16-19). He also had all knowledge about Nathaniel in John 1:47-49.
Friend, Jesus Christ is Deity because He is omniscient.

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Has Creative Powers[/SIZE]
John 1:1-3 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." The "Word" is the Lord Jesus Christ (John 1:14; I John 1:1-3; 5:7), and John 1:3 says that all things were made by Him!
Colossians 1:16 says, "...by him were all things created..." Consider Hebrews 1:1-3: "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;" You see, by Jesus Christ the worlds were made, and by Jesus Christ all things are upheld. He has the power to create and sustain the universe.

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Has Power Over the Elements of Nature[/SIZE]
In Matthew 14:25, Jesus literally walks upon the sea, and in Luke 8:24, He rebukes the wind and it obeys Him. How could He perform such tasks if He weren't God? It must be understood that Jesus didn't pray for God to calm the sea; He calmed the sea Himself.
[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Received Worship[/SIZE]
If we're wrong in teaching that the Lord Jesus Christ is God, then He must have been wrong in allowing people to worship him. Jesus Himself said, "Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." (Mat. 4:10) Why would He say this at the beginning of His ministry and then spend His ministry allowing people to worship HIM?
In Acts 10:25-26, and in Revelation 19:10, worship of anyone other than God Himself is forbidden, yet Jesus willingly received worship throughout His public ministry (John 20:28; Mat. 8:2; 9:18; 15:25; 28:9; John 9:38). If He isn't Deity, then why didn't He correct those who worshipped Him?

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Forgave Sins[/SIZE]
"And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more." (Jer. 31:34) According to these words, it is GOD Who has the power and right to forgive sins. However, the New Testament says that Jesus Christ has this power.
Please notice Mark 2:5-11: "When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee. But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only? And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts? Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk? But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house."
Jesus Christ is God, because only God can forgive sins. It's true that He took on the form of a man for thirty-three years on this earth, but He was still God. He was God manifest in the flesh (I Tim. 3:16).

[SIZE=+2]Jesus Christ Had Power Over His Own Life and Death[/SIZE]
How many people do you know who have the ability to lay down their own life and then take it up again? Jesus had this power.
Consider John 10:17-18: "Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father."
Jesus had the power over His own life and death! When He died, He willingly gave up His own spirit (Luke 23:46).
According to His own words in Revelation 1:18, Jesus Christ has "the keys of hell and of death." How could He possibly have such power if He were not God?
Friend, make no mistake about it: the Lord Jesus Christ is Deity. He came to this earth and suffered in human flesh for thirty-three years. He lived a perfectly sinless life, and then laid that life down as an eternal payment for your sins. Mohammed didn't pay for your sins, because Mohammed wasn't God. Buddha didn't pay for your sins, because Buddha wasn't God. You can't pay for your sins, because you aren't God. Only Jesus Christ is sinless, because only Jesus Christ is God. He Alone can save your soul from the eternal fires of Hell.
"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." (Acts 4:12)
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." (John 14:6)
Friend, do you know the Lord Jesus Christ as your own personal Saviour? Have you been born again? If not, be sure and call or write today for your free copy of Understanding God's Salvation Plan. Nothing in your life is more important than your eternal destiny, and no one can help you more than the Lord Jesus Christ.
Copyright © 1998 James L. Melton


There Is No Way To Have A Trinity Without First Separating Each Of The Three Things Indivdually To Declare Then A Trinity . By That I Mean , You Have To First Establish That There Is A Father One Thing And A Son Another Thing And A Holy Ghost The Thrid Thing , In order For These Things To Totally Mix And Become One Thing . They Would Have To Start Off Equal In Rank , Quantity . Space , Density , Authority , Or Existence . In Admitting That The Son Came From The Father , Time Make The Difference , The Father Would Have To Had Been First , Before The Son . This Would Make Them Unequal And Incapable Of Becoming A Balanced Triad . No It Did Not Mean That When It Said God The Father ,,, God The Son , And God The Holy Ghost = One God .. Because Three Cannot Go Into One .
 
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There Is No Way To Have A Trinity Without First Separating Each Of The Three Things Indivdually To Declare Then A Trinity . By That I Mean , You Have To First Establish That There Is A Father One Thing And A Son Another Thing And A Holy Ghost The Thrid Thing , In order For These Things To Totally Mix And Become One Thing . They Would Have To Start Off Equal In Rank , Quantity . Space , Density , Authority , Or Existence . In Admitting That The Son Came From The Father , Time Make The Difference , The Father Would Have To Had Been First , Before The Son . This Would Make Them Unequal And Incapable Of Becoming A Balanced Triad . No It Did Not Mean That When It Said God The Father ,,, God The Son , And God The Holy Ghost = One God .. Because Three Cannot Go Into One .
So, you see three books sitting on a desk. You assume that the one on the bottom was there first. Stucturally, it makes sense. But what if all three were put on the desk at the same time. Now you have structure that does not require precedence. Regarding three being one, we are trying to describe the eternal relationship between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Three omnipotent omniscience and omnipresent persons must of neccesity be unified in will and purpose. When God the Father spoke, there was no need for the Son and the Spirit to echo Him as they are in perfect agreement. The doctrine of the Trinity is an attempt to express the relationship as it functions and as it was revealed in scripture.
 
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I do not believe in the trinity.
 
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I WHOLE HEARTEDLY AND SPIRITUALLY AGREE 1000%


GOD IS A SPIRIT
A HOLY SPIRIT
THAT BECAME FLESH
TO SAVE US FROM AN ETERNITY OF SIN
THUS
HE IS STILL
THE TRUE ONE GOD


WE HAVE ONE GOD
ONE THAT SITS UPON THE ONLY THRONE OF GOD
IN THE LIKENESS OF A MAN (EZEKIEL 1:26)
HIS NAME IS JESUS


HAVE NO OTHER gods BEFORE ME
WHEN YOU TAKE THE ONE TRUE GOD
AND SPLIT HIM INTO 3 SO-CALLED EQUAL GODS
YOU HAVE CREATED A TRI-UNE GOD
NOW
YOU JUST BROKE
THE VERY FIRST COMMANDMENT OF THE ONE TRUE GOD
BY
HAVING OTHER gods BEFORE THE ONE TRUE GOD

IN JESUS
WHO IS GOD
WE FIND IN HIM THE COMPLETE GODHEAD BODY (FATHER - WORD - HOLY GHOST)..........
COLOSSIANS 2:9 / 1 JOHN 5:6-7
WHICH MEANS
JESUS CHRIST
IS THE ONE TRUE GOD
 
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How can Yeshua be G-d when he sits at the right hand of G-d? Does he have MPD? Serious question.
 
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Because Jesus is the Son of God not God the Father. The Son prays to the Father and sits at the FAtheres rights hand but the Son is not the Father and the Son and the Father are both God.
 
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The Bible clearly states, that Jesus Christ, the SON of God, the FATHER, sits on the right hand side, and makes intercession for us. It clearly explains the Trinity, and I respect everyone's right to believe what they want, I respect that they believe whatever they want...however, it doesn't make them, or anyone else right or wrong simply because they believe it. Jesus didn't pray to Himself, He prayed to God the Father on our behalf, His own behalf, for direction and so on,He prayed about all things. God the Father raised Jesus from the dead. Jesus came to represent, okay represent means to be an example of, and so on...of God the Father, because we can't see God. However in Bible times and all, they did see Jesus. Think of ''doubting Thomas'' he said he would never believe until he saw Jesus himself, and could see and touch the wounds and all. Jesus made it happen. Anyhow, I respect your beliefs, but I respectfully disagree. I shall agree to disagree here. God bless.
 
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Because Jesus is the Son of God not God the Father. The Son prays to the Father and sits at the FAtheres rights hand but the Son is not the Father and the Son and the Father are both God.
So then Christianity is polytheistic?
 
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The Bible clearly states, that Jesus Christ, the SON of God, the FATHER, sits on the right hand side, and makes intercession for us. It clearly explains the Trinity, and I respect everyone's right to believe what they want, I respect that they believe whatever they want...however, it doesn't make them, or anyone else right or wrong simply because they believe it. Jesus didn't pray to Himself, He prayed to God the Father on our behalf, His own behalf, for direction and so on,He prayed about all things. God the Father raised Jesus from the dead. Jesus came to represent, okay represent means to be an example of, and so on...of God the Father, because we can't see God. However in Bible times and all, they did see Jesus. Think of ''doubting Thomas'' he said he would never believe until he saw Jesus himself, and could see and touch the wounds and all. Jesus made it happen. Anyhow, I respect your beliefs, but I respectfully disagree. I shall agree to disagree here. God bless.


The Above Is Funny Just Like When Some Christians Say Yashu'a Is The Way To His ( Father ) , If Yashu'a Is The Way To His ( Father ) And Some ( Christians ) Call Him The Father , My Question Where Is Yashu'a Takeing These People . ????????
 
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The Above Is Funny Just Like When Some Christians Say Yashu'a Is The Way To His ( Father ) , If Yashu'a Is The Way To His ( Father ) And Some ( Christians ) Call Him The Father , My Question Where Is Yashu'a Takeing These People . ????????
Well, I'm not Jewish, only they go by this ''Yashua'' I'm a Christian, we simply go by Jesus Christ. The Jews don't even type out God, they put G-d or something like that...which I don't understand. The thing is, when people pass from the physical life, they don't just die out and nothing is left. Their spirit and soul goes on. Jesus refers to them as ''sleeping'' as they shall be raised up again one day. I'm sorry I can't answer your question about ''Yashua'' because I do not know or understand that belief, I'm not Jewish, I never have been Jewish, and doubt I ever will be. However, the Bible does say that the Jews are God's chosen people, that some day they shall come back to Him and everything. I take it you aren't a Christian, based on how you refer to us...that's okay though...I don't mind. Maybe you'll learn something, and God will speak to you, and you'll find your way to Him :). At any rate, welcome to the site, and God bless you.
 
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Well, I'm not Jewish, only they go by this ''Yashua'' I'm a Christian, we simply go by Jesus Christ. The Jews don't even type out God, they put G-d or something like that...which I don't understand. The thing is, when people pass from the physical life, they don't just die out and nothing is left. Their spirit and soul goes on. Jesus refers to them as ''sleeping'' as they shall be raised up again one day. I'm sorry I can't answer your question about ''Yashua'' because I do not know or understand that belief, I'm not Jewish, I never have been Jewish, and doubt I ever will be. However, the Bible does say that the Jews are God's chosen people, that some day they shall come back to Him and everything. I take it you aren't a Christian, based on how you refer to us...that's okay though...I don't mind. Maybe you'll learn something, and God will speak to you, and you'll find your way to Him :). At any rate, welcome to the site, and God bless you.
"Yashua" is a bit incorrect, it's actually "Yeshua", and is the true name of Jesus. He was a Jew, after all, and had a Hebrew name :)

Not that calling him Jesus Christ is bad either, certainly not. It's the same name. Just saying, Yeshua is just the Hebrew name for Jesus :) I use it, personally, because it holds more meaning for me - "Jesus" is just a Greek name, just a translation with no meaning. "Yeshua", on the other hand, is the same as the Hebrew word for "salvation", "yeshu'ah". That is what Yeshua is, no? :)

As to why we write G-d's Name the way we do, it is so as not to take His Name over lightly. In fact, there's even a Scripture about not writing G-d's name on something that can be thrown away/deleted.
 
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So then Christianity is polytheistic?
No, Trinity. Going back to basic definitions...the difference between polytheism and trinitarianism is this. Polytheists believe in multiple but independent , seperate and distinct gods. Monotheists believe in one God. Trinitarians believe in one God (monotheistic), who is made up of three persons..that's why we say God the Son, God the Father..etc...we are referring to the one God, and then by the title of Son, Father or Spirit, we are referring to that particularly person and/or function.
 
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No, Trinity. Going back to basic definitions...the difference between polytheism and trinitarianism is this. Polytheists believe in multiple but independent , seperate and distinct gods. Monotheists believe in one God. Trinitarians believe in one God (monotheistic), who is made up of three persons..that's why we say God the Son, God the Father..etc.
So G-d is one G-d. Great.

Yet He is also three people.

So, again - does He have MPD? Serious question. I don't see how Yeshua could be being baptised while G-d says FROM HEAVEN that He is pleased with His Son, while the Spirit comes down like a dove. That shows three clear, distinct beings. So if there are three clear distinct beings and all three are G-d, either trinitarians are polytheists or G-d has MPD.
 
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Here's a thought, if God were not made up of separate people, why would God always need to emphasis the fact that "I Am One". It implies that He continually reinforces the fact that although we may see Him in different forms (remember the old testament saints also experienced God in different ways, a voice from heaven, an angel, the Spirit indwelling them, a burning bush etc)...He wants us to remember He is not three separate Gods but One God. I have no issue believing God can be three distinct beings in one, just as I have a body, soul and spirit in one. Also, we have to remember that when God says He is One, He is one in thought, will and purpose, not substance. In substance He is three- Father, Son, H.S. So Jesus's baptism was not a display of three separate God's, but three person's who make up the One God.
 
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So then Christianity is polytheistic?
Don't you understand that the Sh'ma teaches God is echad? If God is echad and we have Scriptural evidence to prove echad is more than ONE PERSON the deity of the Messiah is valid?

Genesis 2:24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

בראשית 2:24
עַל־כֵּן֙ יַֽעֲזָב־אִ֔ישׁ אֶת־אָבִ֖יו וְאֶת־אִמֹּ֑ו וְדָבַ֣ק בְּאִשְׁתֹּ֔ו וְהָי֖וּ לְבָשָׂ֥ר אֶחָֽד

אֶחָֽד= echad

A married man and woman are ECHAD?

HaShem is ECHAD ?

Echad simply means "united one"

What??????

Isaiah 44:6
“ Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel,
And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts:
‘ I am the First and I am the Last;
Besides Me there is no God.


Revelation 1
17 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me,“Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last.
18 I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.

I can show you all day that the belief or the foundation for the trinity is valid throughout the ancient Hebrew Scripture without even touching the New Testament.
 
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Is it not possible that He was reinforcing the idea that He is One as a warning against doctrines such as the trinity?

The Hebrew word used when He says He is One is "echad", which means a singular one. Not one bunch like grapes, or one herd, but ONE.
 
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