Living by the Law vs Living Righteous

[iwant2serve]

It has come to my attention when discussions about living righteous comes up (obeying God's Word/Laws) people call this living under the Law. If God says we have to live a certian way to be his child and this lifestyle is promoted how can this be called legalism or works based salvation and not grace? I think its time we learn what law and grace really mean. Living by a works based salvation simply means you don't need the sacrifice of Jesus but by your own works of doing good will get you to heaven. Living by grace means you have received Jesus as your sacrifice for sin yet you live to please him by obeying his Word/Laws.
I speak a lot of times concerning the kingdom of God and all kingdoms have laws (rules and regulations) that must be obeyed. If there is no law in place or enforced then there is anarchy (a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority or lack of obedience to authority). As for Grace I see it as unmerrited favor and the removal of immediate punishment for disobedience (mercy- an act of kindness, compassion or favor). Please chime in with your thoughts on this subject.

For by grace ye are saved through faith, not of yourselfs, it is a gift from God. Not of works least any man should boast. Eph 2:8-9
Hereby we know that we know him if we keep His commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.1 John 2:3-5

 

[Hizikyah]

How do you view these verses in the light of being subject/not being subject to the Creator's Law?

Mattithyah 7:23, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."

iniquity is:#0458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459

Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness

Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."

Mattithyah 22:36-40, "Teacher, what is the greatest commandment in the Law? Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."

King James Bible
Revelation 22:12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

 

[john832]

It has come to my attention when discussions about living righteous comes up (obeying God's Word/Laws) people call this living under the Law. If God says we have to live a certian way to be his child and this lifestyle is promoted how can this be called legalism or works based salvation and not grace? I think its time we learn what law and grace really mean. Living by a works based salvation simply means you don't need the sacrifice of Jesus but by your own works of doing good will get you to heaven. Living by grace means you have received Jesus as your sacrifice for sin yet you live to please him by obeying his Word/Laws.
I speak a lot of times concerning the kingdom of God and all kingdoms have laws (rules and regulations) that must be obeyed. If there is no law in place or enforced then there is anarchy (a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority or lack of obedience to authority). As for Grace I see it as unmerrited favor and the removal of immediate punishment for disobedience (mercy- an act of kindness, compassion or favor). Please chime in with your thoughts on this subject.

For by grace ye are saved through faith, not of yourselfs, it is a gift from God. Not of works least any man should boast. Eph 2:8-9
Hereby we know that we know him if we keep His commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.1 John 2:3-5

You and Hizikyah have left little to say, very good summation indeed!