Did the Reed Sea Crossing Really Happen?

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Karraster

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Excuse me folks....but we walk by faith and not by sight....while these things are cool, they don't move me, because I know who Jesus is by Faith and by revelation.

One should be careful and always follow the word. For example, The shroud of Turin is refuted by John 20.7
What about those with no faith or sight?
 
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Same here but the video was an amazing confirmation and I love showing it to atheists!

praise Yah!
So if I watch this video, it will prove to me that the red sea crossing really happened?
 
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What about those with no faith or sight?
Yes I know and have heard of many people who have come to the Lord through findings like these, including the shroud of Turin. Everybody is brought to the Lord in different ways, and to say one persons way is not proper is not a good way to go about things. The Word is there to strength us in our walk, and many will find that path....But how they get there is by the Lord's doing.......
 
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So if I watch this video, it will prove to me that the red sea crossing really happened?
may or may not. preconceived ideas are like the tiny rope holding an adult elephant in bondage. He tried to get loose from it as a baby, then gave in and was defeated. Now he surely is strong enough to snap that rope, but he won't try cause it didn't work before.
 

Hizikyah

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So if I watch this video, it will prove to me that the red sea crossing really happened?
Maybe watch with an open mind, and do some follow up study, as in more study to see if the dynasty lined up right in the Egyptian records and how the pharoah of the era died? :) (hint hint) :) an Maybe study the "70 weeks" prophecy of Daniyl, that's a real amazing one! JMO. :)
 

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Yes I know and have heard of many people who have come to the Lord through findings like these, including the shroud of Turin. Everybody is brought to the Lord in different ways, and to say one persons way is not proper is not a good way to go about things. The Word is there to strength us in our walk, and many will find that path....But how they get there is by the Lord's doing.......
Proverbs 16:9, "A man's mind plans his way, but Yahweh directs his steps."
 
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So if I watch this video, it will prove to me that the red sea crossing really happened?
One thing I would suggest is to never go into a Biblical study with a preconceived idea. Whether that idea is true or false you will, most of the time, come out with that same idea. Go into a study asking the Holy Spirit to guide you and direct you and He will show you truth.
 
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this is said to be a natural rock formation at the foot of mt sinai.

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Go into a study asking the Holy Spirit to guide you and direct you and He will show you truth.
But isn't that going in with a preconceived idea? A preconcieved idea that god exists?
 

Hizikyah

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If I may?

Yes that would be carrying a preconceived idea in.

IMO, all I ask when I recommend it to people, in this matter particularly atheists, that don't carry any dea in just don't destroy any idea, thought, possibility, etc because you have a prior belief. Just watch what is there in and consider what is there, noting less, nothing more. (Now of course as a believer of the Most High I would say, pray for guidance before watching, but, still carry a open mind, not leaning to one way or the other) JMO.
 

Hizikyah

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Exodus 17:5-6, "
Yahweh said to Mosheh: Go on in front of the people, and take with you some of the elders of Israyl. Take also in your hand the staff with which you struck the Nile, and go. Behold,I will stand there before you upon the rock at Horeb; and you shall strike the rock, and water will come out of it for the people to drink. So Mosheh did this in the sight of the elders of Israyl."






Romans 1:20, "...Yah's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen..."
 

Hizikyah

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Bump so.........................................can be................... :)
"his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen"
 
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Exodus 17:5-6, "
Yahweh said to Mosheh: Go on in front of the people, and take with you some of the elders of Israyl. Take also in your hand the staff with which you struck the Nile, and go. Behold,I will stand there before you upon the rock at Horeb; and you shall strike the rock, and water will come out of it for the people to drink. So Mosheh did this in the sight of the elders of Israyl."






Romans 1:20, "...Yah's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen..."
I'd wager its more likely that this rock formation existed prior to the events described in the bible. Another classic example of someone attaching a meaning or an explanation to something that was already there.
 
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Tintin

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But isn't that going in with a preconceived idea? A preconcieved idea that god exists?
Well, aren't you going into it all with the preconceived idea that God doesn't exist? Don't deny it.
 
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Kerry

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Well, aren't you going into it all with the preconceived idea that God doesn't exist? Don't deny it.

Especially with documents going back over 4,000 years against guesses.
 

Hizikyah

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An Extraordinary Find A secret room filled with ancient objects had just been discovered. Dr. Barkay explains the excitement:
In one chamber more than a thousand objects were found. They included 125 objects of silver, 40 iron arrowheads, gold, ivory, glass, bone and 150 semi-precious stones. There was 60 centimeters [two feet] of accumulation filled with objects and skeletal remains. There was a lot of dust and a lack of oxygen.
It was very hot. We had to change teams every few hours. There was a lady who was in charge of coffee and sandwiches. Everyone was sworn to secrecy – they weren’t allowed to tell parents, spouses, or friends. If word got around Jerusalem that there was such a treasure, the California gold rush would be nothing compared to what would happen here.
The contents of the tomb were able to be dated to the end of the seventh and beginning of the sixth centuries BC, the time of Jeremiah the prophet.



Judy Hadley, a girl from Toledo, Ohio, walked up to Dr. Barkay with something very small in her hand. It was purplish in color and looked a lot like a cigarette butt. It was just about an inch long. Dr. Barkay, who has spent a lifetime discovering amazing artifacts, says this little item is, “the most important find of my life.”
The little item was thought to be an amulet scroll. It was believed to be a rolled up piece of pure silver, possibly containing writing on the inside.
The discovery prompted a huge question, “Can you unroll a nearly 2,500 year old silver scroll without totally destroying it? Should it even be attempted?” There was a real possibility the scroll would never be opened. Adding even more drama a second little rolled up scroll was eventually found when the excavators sifted all the dirt removed from the burial chamber.

Can They Be Opened?



The scrolls were first sent to the University of Leeds in Britain, where some of the most experienced restorers of ancient artifacts and metal experts were available for such delicate work. The British experts felt, however, that the danger of destroying the scrolls was too great. They refused to work on the scrolls.
The scrolls were then sent to Germany. The German team similarly refused, sending the scrolls back to Israel. Technicians at the Israel Museum decided to attempt the procedure themselves. For three years the contents of the scrolls remained a secret. After many difficulties the Israeli technicians developed a special process allowing the scrolls to be unrolled without being destroyed. To everyone’s astonishment both of the scrolls contained ancient writing!
What did they say? Well, to everyone’s further astonishment both of the scrolls contained portions of the exact same writing. Both of the scrolls contained verses from the Bible!

The larger scroll contained more verses than the smaller scroll but both of them contained Numbers 6:24-26. The verse is one of the central passages of Scripture known as the “Priestly” or “Aaronic” benediction saying, “May Yahweh bless you and keep you; May Yahweh cause his face to Shine upon you and grant you Peace
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Significance



These two little scrolls pack a powerful punch. They are significant on several different levels. First, they are the oldest copy we have of Scripture. The Dead Sea Scrolls rocked the archaeological world in 1946 by finding Scripture written around 200BC. The amulet scroll is older than the Dead Sea Scrolls by more than 400 years.
Second, many scholars have surmised the Old Testament to be a late creation. It speaks of things happening a long time ago but was written post-exilic (after the exile of 580BC) in order to create a nationalistic history for those returning from Babylon. The amulet scroll powerfully shows the Old Testament being used before, not after, the exile. The amulet scroll disproves decades of liberal biblical studies in one small discovery.
Third, the scroll is the oldest mention of the name Yahweh outside of the Bible. Yahweh is being worshiped by the owner of this amulet while the temple of (YHWH) Solomon stood nearby. The Bible confidently explains all these things in a particular time and place. It’s refreshing to find an item which helps to support time, places and events which so many scholars had long thought to be fictitious.
 

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The Tel Dan Inscription: The First Historical Evidence of King David from the Bible

Tel Dan inscription references the “House of David”

Biblical Archaeology Society Staff • 09/17/2014
This Bible History Daily feature was originally published in 2011. It has been updated.—Ed.
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The fragmentary Tel Dan stela, containing the Tel Dan inscription (or “House of David” inscription) provided the first historical evidence of King David from the Bible. The Aramean king who erected the stela in the mid-eighth century B.C. claims to have defeated the “king of Israel” and the “king of the House of David.” Photo: The Israel Museum, Jerusalem/Israel Antiquities Authority (photograph by Meidad Suchowolski).

Few modern Biblical archaeology discoveries have caused as much excitement as the Tel Dan inscription—writing on a ninth-century B.C. stone slab (or stela) that furnished the first historical evidence of King David from the Bible. The Tel Dan inscription, or “House of David” inscription, was discovered in 1993 at the site of Tel Dan in northern Israel in an excavation directed by Israeli archaeologist Avraham Biran.
The broken and fragmentary inscription commemorates the victory of an Aramean king over his two southern neighbors: the “king of Israel” and the “king of the House of David.” In the carefully incised text written in neat Aramaic characters, the Aramean king boasts that he, under the divine guidance of the god Hadad, vanquished several thousand Israelite and Judahite horsemen and charioteers before personally dispatching both of his royal opponents. Unfortunately, the recovered fragments of the “House of David” inscription do not preserve the names of the specific kings involved in this brutal encounter, but most scholars believe the stela recounts a campaign of Hazael of Damascus in which he defeated both Jehoram of Israel and Ahaziah of Judah.

Our free eBook Ten Top Biblical Archaeology Discoveries brings together the exciting worlds of archaeology and the Bible! Learn the fascinating insights gained from artifacts and ruins, like the Pool of Siloam in Jerusalem, where the Gospel of John says Jesus miraculously restored the sight of the blind man, and the Tel Dan inscription—the first historical evidence of King David outside the Bible.

What made the Tel Dan inscription one of the most exciting Biblical archaeology discoveries for scholars and the broader public was its unprecedented reference to the “House of David.” The stela’s fragmented inscription, first read and translated by the renowned epigrapher Joseph Naveh, proved that King David from the Bible was a genuine historical figure and not simply the fantastic literary creation of later Biblical writers and editors. Perhaps more important, the stela, set up by one of ancient Israel’s fiercest enemies more than a century after David’s death, still recognized David as the founder of the kingdom of Judah. The “House of David” inscription had its skeptics, however, especially the so-called Biblical minimalists, who attempted to dismiss the “House of David” reading as implausible and even sensationalistic. In a famous BAR article, Philip Davies argued that the Hebrew term bytdwd referred to a specific place (akin to bytlhm for Bethlehem) rather than the ancestral dynasty of David. Such skepticism aside, however, most Biblical scholars and archaeologists readily accepted that the Tel Dan stela had supplied the first concrete proof of a historical King David from the Bible, making it one of the top Biblical archaeology discoveries reported in BAR.
Even though the “House of David” inscription has confirmed the essential historicity of King David from the Bible, scholars have reached little consensus about the nature and extent of his rule. Was David the great king of Biblical lore who founded his royal capital at Jerusalem and established an Israelite kingdom? Or was David a ruler of only a tribal chiefdom, as Israel Finkelstein of Tel Aviv University contends? Questions like these often arise from Biblical archaeology discoveries and lie at the heart of the complex relationships among archaeology, history and the Bible.
Based on “Issue 200: Ten Top Discoveries,” Biblical Archaeology Review, July/August September/October 2009.
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Why heck yes it happened and I have seen these evidences before on a video put out by Michael Rood a few years past, but even though there is physical evidence I believe it because the word of God states that it happened.... :)
 

Hizikyah

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Why heck yes it happened and I have seen these evidences before on a video put out by Michael Rood a few years past, but even though there is physical evidence I believe it because the word of God states that it happened.... :)
I agree, as I also believed it was true before I watched the vid, He created all that is, why could He not move some water! :)

But I just thought the video is so amazing, strengthening in conformation what believers believe and possibly showing some non-believers that our Hope is a reality!
 
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Well, aren't you going into it all with the preconceived idea that God doesn't exist? Don't deny it.
So your countering my post which was countering another post that said the exact same thing that your countering with?