Is the "Mind of Christ" Mortal or Immortal?

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I Corinthians 2:16 states "We have the mind of Christ".

There should be no irrational resistance in the assumption that the King Immortal (I Tim 1:17), has an Immortal Mind.

If the Body of Christ is the Body of the King Immortal, who should be putting on the Mind of Christ, why is it the vast majority of "christians" are still bowing down to death?

Jesus said in John 8:51 He that keeps my sayings shall never see death.

Most will say, that just means "spiritual death".

So if there is no Spiritual Death, that means we would be Filled with the Spirit, and would not die. Which you see as you read all of Romans chapter 8 - provided here for your convenience:

[h=1]Romans 8 King James Version (KJV)[/h]8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 

Jon4TheCross

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He understands both, and can communicate with both. The mind of God does not die though, and of course is not dead.
 
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People talk about christ and don't no what christ means or where the word christ comes from and they think there enlightened.
 

Joidevivre

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Here we go again and for what purpose?
 

SoulWeaver

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Here we go again and for what purpose?
Agreed and why people like so much to pull and discuss all these high and abstract things? Daily bread is a wonder above our heads already.
 

Jon4TheCross

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Again? Is this a controversy with a known title? Let me guess...word definitions again.

So the only controversy I can even think of is regarding what the word mind means.
Yes when Jesus walked the earth He had a mind made of the substance of earth, fire, water, and wind. Both spiritually speaking and according to the perspective of an earthen vessel.
 

breno785au

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Socrates, in a nutshell do you believe you will never die? Is that what your saying?
 
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If you don't no what the word Christ means or where the word Christ comes from then I will leave you to it, why do people get mad when your trying to get people to see, I'm not saying your eye sights not all there and you can't see I'm trying to tell you something so you see what I mean, just like Jesus done he told people things and made them see as they was blind of the truth.
Anyways sorry if I offened anyone will let you get on with your post
 
Jan 18, 2015
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Socrates, in a nutshell do you believe you will never die? Is that what your saying?
Read the scripture provided you in first post - and ask yourself that question. Specifically Rom 8:13
 
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greatest STORY ever told
 
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Ok, so you believe your not going to die.
What does the Bible say? You are accountable to Jesus Christ.

Here is another one for you -

GALATIANS 6:
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap the Life of the Ages (Zoe Aionious).
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
 
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You do understand the difference between the flesh and the spirit...right? Socrates? You do understand that the flesh is mortal and must pass unless we are here when the Lord returns? The Spirit will give life to the body based on the purpose of God...but there is no promise of eternal life to the "flesh"...mortal body? You seem to have a large opinion of your knowledge but lets find out if you really know anything about what the bible really teaches?
 
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You do understand the difference between the flesh and the spirit...right? Socrates? You do understand that the flesh is mortal and must pass unless we are here when the Lord returns? The Spirit will give life to the body based on the purpose of God...but there is no promise of eternal life to the "flesh"...mortal body? You seem to have a large opinion of your knowledge but lets find out if you really know anything about what the bible really teaches?
To begin your education, you might want to study the words "transform,change,and transfiguration" in the greek.
You totally avoided Galatians 6:7-8 -if you dare look at it, then go to Romas 8:13 - Then II Cor 4, II Cor 5, Phil 3 and so on - you are way over your head.
 
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Socrates you need to seriously pray to God for understanding and stop making things up. Our physical bodies die dude! Have you ever seen someone not die? Or maybe you live so far from society and reality that people just "poof" and disappear.
 
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To begin your education, you might want to study the words "transform,change,and transfiguration" in the greek.
You totally avoided Galatians 6:7-8 -if you dare look at it, then go to Romas 8:13 - Then II Cor 4, II Cor 5, Phil 3 and so on - you are way over your head.
Currently writing a book on biblical Greek....now what is your point in the Greek?
 

breno785au

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What does the Bible say? You are accountable to Jesus Christ.

Here is another one for you -

GALATIANS 6:
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap the Life of the Ages (Zoe Aionious).
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
Ok, so you believe your not going to die.

Have you aged over the years? That is your body dying. Stop sowing to the flesh you troll.
 
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Socrates you need to seriously pray to God for understanding and stop making things up. Our physical bodies die dude! Have you ever seen someone not die? Or maybe you live so far from society and reality that people just "poof" and disappear.
Should I believe you or Jesus - JOhn 8:51 He that keeps my sayings shall never see death.
 
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Ok, so you believe your not going to die.

Have you aged over the years? That is your body dying. Stop sowing to the flesh you troll.
deal with the Word of God and stop being an Anti-Christ - now there are many Anti-Christs - I John 2:18
 

Reborn

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Socrates, in a nutshell do you believe you will never die? Is that what your saying?
I think you meant to ask, when he comes out of the nutshell from time to time to teach, does he believe he will eventually die?

Socrates...brother, what compels you to speak to people like this man?
You are convinced this style of preaching is from Christ, I assume?
You should look up scripture on that idea....tell me what you find?

I will never get how people think that it's okay to preach with a "in your face" style, and think they will win you over?
You feel the resistance bro????
That should tell you something.

Maybe people would listen to your points, if you weren't screaming what you teach?