Thoughts about Jacob

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penknight

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Do you think the labor Jacob suffered under Laban was because he stole Esau's birthright and blessing? I know he had to work so that he could marry Rachel, but Laban kept changing the conditions on which he would give her over to him.
 
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Maybe payback for Jacob being a trickster.......as in you reap what you sow....!
 

breno785au

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He didn't steal his birthright, Esau gave it up.

Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
 

john832

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He didn't steal his birthright, Esau gave it up.

Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
Sure he did, they are both culpable...

Gen 27:8 Now therefore, my son, obey my voice according to that which I command thee.
Gen 27:9 Go now to the flock, and fetch me from thence two good kids of the goats; and I will make them savoury meat for thy father, such as he loveth:
Gen 27:10 And thou shalt bring it to thy father, that he may eat, and that he may bless thee before his death.
Gen 27:11 And Jacob said to Rebekah his mother, Behold, Esau my brother is a hairy man, and I am a smooth man:
Gen 27:12 My father peradventure will feel me, and I shall seem to him as a deceiver; and I shall bring a curse upon me, and not a blessing.
Gen 27:13 And his mother said unto him, Upon me be thy curse, my son: only obey my voice, and go fetch me them.
Gen 27:14 And he went, and fetched, and brought them to his mother: and his mother made savoury meat, such as his father loved.
Gen 27:15 And Rebekah took goodly raiment of her eldest son Esau, which were with her in the house, and put them upon Jacob her younger son:
Gen 27:16 And she put the skins of the kids of the goats upon his hands, and upon the smooth of his neck:
Gen 27:17 And she gave the savoury meat and the bread, which she had prepared, into the hand of her son Jacob.
Gen 27:18 And he came unto his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I; who art thou, my son?
Gen 27:19 And Jacob said unto his father, I am Esau thy firstborn; I have done according as thou badest me: arise, I pray thee, sit and eat of my venison, that thy soul may bless me.

as well as Rebekah.

The name Jacob is not an honorable name...

H3290

יַעֲקֹב
ya‛ăqôb
yah-ak-obe'
From H6117; heel catcher (that is, supplanter); Jaakob, the Israelitish patriarch: - Jacob.
Total KJV occurrences: 349

God changed his name to Israel...

H3478

יִשְׂרָאֵל
yiśrâ'êl
yis-raw-ale'
From H8280 and H410; he will rule as God; Jisrael, a symbolical name of Jacob; also (typically) of his posterity: - Israel.
Total KJV occurrences: 2505

When he repented and changed his character...

Gen 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.
 
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oldthennew

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dc hit the nail on the head...

also just read John832's post,
wonderful post.

it is obvious that Jacob used deception when he lied to Isaac -
not only was he deceiving but he was also dis-honoring both
his heavenly Father and his earthly father.
so it's not surprising that Laban also dealt deceitfully with him.

with seven days of feasting going on at the traditional Hebrew wedding party,
there was obviously lots of wine being passed around, thus how easy
it must have been for Laban to substitute one sister for another in
order to enslave Jacob:
as Jacob was enslaved to sin, so he became an indentured servant
to his father-in-law-master.

this is a mighty strong example for us to take heed and refine our behavior
to Jesus' commands in order to walk in the Light.
 

breno785au

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Oh your talking about that instance, I was thinking about this one :
Gen 25:33
And Jacob said, Swear to me this day; and he sware unto him: and he sold his birthright unto Jacob.

But he had to deceive his father to receive it.
 

john832

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Oh your talking about that instance, I was thinking about this one :
Gen 25:33
And Jacob said, Swear to me this day; and he sware unto him: and he sold his birthright unto Jacob.

But he had to deceive his father to receive it.
When Jacob was Jacob, he worked every angle.
 

breno785au

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Makes me think what would of happened if Jacob just told his father that Esau sold him his birthright?

Anyway...
 

penknight

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He didn't steal his birthright, Esau gave it up.

Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
Oops, my bad.