ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

[Socrates]

ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

Only the deep dense darkness of the carnal mind of man could perpetuate such an evil doctrine of Endless Hell. Those that do, do not want you to study out greek words and compare them with the rest of scriptures. They do not offer Spiritual Interpretations but alternately, UNSPIRITUAL - Carnal - Demonic.

Notice when people try to teach on Hell, they never elaborate on the greek words in the New Testament (Hades, Gehenna and Tarturus), where the pagan name Hel was tranlated upon?

For instance, Rev 20:14 And death and hades shall be cast into the lake of fire: this is the second death.

The second death is the death of death....until there is "no more death" Rev 21:4

Endless Hell is not consistent with the fact God is Love and the Abrahamic Covenant and Restoration of ALL THINGS (Acts 3:19-26).

The video will help you get closer to the TRUTH and expose this massive world-wide cover up by a religious system that is more concerned about money, then people - they are THE WHORE in Revelation 17 and 18.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHEWu28Z8mQ

 

[posthuman]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

​please be consistent. is the eternal life promised to who believes on Christ temporary, or everlasting? is it for everyone or for whosoever believeth ?

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
(John 3:16)

Cognate: 166 aiṓnios (an adjective, derived from 165 /aiṓn ("an age, having a particular character and quality") – properly, "age-like" ("like-an-age"), i.e. an "age-characteristic" (the quality describing a particular age); (figuratively) the unique quality (reality) of God's life at work in the believer, i.e. as the Lord manifests His self-existent life (as it is in Hissinless abode of heaven). "Eternal (166 /aiṓnios) life operates simultaneously outside of time, inside of time, and beyond time – i.e. what gives time its everlasting meaning for the believer through faith, yet is also time-independent. See 165 (aiōn).
[166 (aiṓnios) does not focus on the future per se, but rather on thequality of the age (165 /aiṓn) it relates to. Thus believers live in "eternal (166 /aiṓnios) life" right now, experiencing this quality of God's life now as a present possession. (Note the Gk present tense of having eternal life in Jn 3:36, 5:24, 6:47; cf. Ro 6:23.)]

 

[Socrates]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

​please be consistent. is the eternal life promised to who believes on Christ temporary, or everlasting? is it for everyone or for whosoever believeth ?

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
(John 3:16)

Cognate: 166 aiṓnios (an adjective, derived from 165 /aiṓn ("an age, having a particular character and quality") – properly, "age-like" ("like-an-age"), i.e. an "age-characteristic" (the quality describing a particular age); (figuratively) the unique quality (reality) of God's life at work in the believer, i.e. as the Lord manifests His self-existent life (as it is in Hissinless abode of heaven). "Eternal (166 /aiṓnios) life operates simultaneously outside of time, inside of time, and beyond time – i.e. what gives time its everlasting meaning for the believer through faith, yet is also time-independent. See 165 (aiōn).
[166 (aiṓnios) does not focus on the future per se, but rather on thequality of the age (165 /aiṓn) it relates to. Thus believers live in "eternal (166 /aiṓnios) life" right now, experiencing this quality of God's life now as a present possession. (Note the Gk present tense of having eternal life in Jn 3:36, 5:24, 6:47; cf. Ro 6:23.)]

Jesus is Zoe - Endless Life. And that Life is now in the Ages (Aionious) . So if you believe in (eis= INTO) Jesus, you shall not perish (die) but have the Zoe Aionious.

Next.

 

[posthuman]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

Jesus is Zoe - Endless Life. And that Life is now in the Ages (Aionious) . So if you believe in (eis= INTO) Jesus, you shall not perish (die) but have the Zoe Aionious.

and whoever does not believe ...?

then you completely change the meaning of the word to suit your universalist doctrine?

 

[Socrates]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

and whoever does not believe ...?

then you completely change the meaning of the word to suit your universalist doctrine?

No, its the greek. If you don't believe into Jesus you die. Live after the flesh and you will die - Rom 8:13

 

[posthuman]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

No, its the greek. If you don't believe into Jesus you die. Live after the flesh and you will die - Rom 8:13

it's exactly the same Greek word. which is why i'm puzzled by you.

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[TD="class: translit"]kai[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]καὶ[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]And[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Conj[/TD]
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[TD="class: strongsnt"]565 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]apeleusontai[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἀπελεύσονται[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]will go away[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]V-FIM-3P[/TD]
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[TD="class: strongsnt"]3778 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]houtoi[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]οὗτοι[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]these[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]DPro-NMP[/TD]
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[TD="class: strongsnt"]1519 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]eis[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]εἰς[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]into[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Prep[/TD]
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[TD="class: strongsnt"]2851 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]kolasin[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]κόλασιν[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]punishment[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]N-AFS[/TD]
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[TD="class: strongsnt"]166 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]aiōnion[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]αἰώνιον,[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]eternal;[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Adj-AFS[/TD]
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[TD="class: strongsnt"]3588 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]hoi[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]οἱ[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Art-NMP[/TD]
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[TD="class: strongsnt"]1161 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]de[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]δὲ[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]moreover[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Conj[/TD]
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[TD="class: strongsnt"]1342 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]dikaioi[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]δίκαιοι[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"][the] righteous[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Adj-NMP[/TD]
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[TD="class: strongsnt"]1519 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]eis[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]εἰς[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]into[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Prep[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="class: strongsnt"]2222 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]zōēn[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ζωὴν[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]life[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]N-AFS[/TD]
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[TD="class: strongsnt"]166 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]aiōnion[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]αἰώνιον.[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]eternal.[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Adj-AFS[/TD]
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(Matthew 25:46)

 

[3Scoreand10]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

Only the deep dense darkness of the carnal mind of man could perpetuate such an evil doctrine of Endless Hell. Those that do, do not want you to study out greek words and compare them with the rest of scriptures. They do not offer Spiritual Interpretations but alternately, UNSPIRITUAL - Carnal - Demonic.

Notice when people try to teach on Hell, they never elaborate on the greek words in the New Testament (Hades, Gehenna and Tarturus), where the pagan name Hel was tranlated upon?

For instance, Rev 20:14 And death and hades shall be cast into the lake of fire: this is the second death.

The second death is the death of death....until there is "no more death" Rev 21:4

Endless Hell is not consistent with the fact God is Love and the Abrahamic Covenant and Restoration of ALL THINGS (Acts 3:19-26).

The video will help you get closer to the TRUTH and expose this massive world-wide cover up by a religious system that is more concerned about money, then people - they are THE WHORE in Revelation 17 and 18.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHEWu28Z8mQ

Please ignore this man.
Everything he teaches is of Satin.
He is probably a JW

 

[posthuman]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

Please ignore this man.
Everything he teaches is of Satin.
He is probably a JW

i was thinking Mormon, lol.

 

[Socrates]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

Your confused because you are not focusing on ZOE - which is endless life.

Greek for Eternal Punishment in Matthew 25:46 is Kolasin Aionion - The correction of the ages, which is Cause and Effect.

 

[Socrates]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

Please ignore this man.
Everything he teaches is of Satin.
He is probably a JW

I am of Satin - real smooth.

Your issue is - you do not address the WORD OF GOD. Typical of the Spirit of Error.

 

[posthuman]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

aionion is aionion.

 

[Yet]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

Please ignore this man.
Everything he teaches is of Satin.
He is probably a JW

endless torture? If Jesus died for just one persons sins, should He not still be suffering torture....for ever and ever? On the scales of cripture, there is far more that speaks to 'perish' than not.

 

[Socrates]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

endless torture? If Jesus died for just one persons sins, should He not still be suffering torture....for ever and ever? On the scales of cripture, there is far more that speaks to 'perish' than not.

Does "perish" mean ENDLESS TORTURE?

When the disciples were in the boat during the storm in Mark 4:38 did they say "Lord, don't you care that we go to ENDLESS TORTURE?"
LOL

 

[posthuman]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

Does "perish" mean ENDLESS TORTURE?

When the disciples were in the boat during the storm in Mark 4:38 did they say "Lord, don't you care that we go to ENDLESS TORTURE?"
LOL

just want to report that i refreshed the tab i had open to a lexicon, and aionion still means aionion. no change.

i'll keep checking.

 

[Socrates]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

just want to report that i refreshed the tab i had open to a lexicon, and aionion still means aionion. no change.

i'll keep checking.

Yes, F5 throughout the Aionion, unless you live after the flesh and die, then you wont have the Life of the Ages - Gal 6:8.

If you keep at it, sometime the light will go on and you will realize who rocks!!

 

[Ukorin]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

Is Jesus Christ the Son of God, born of God, and One as God?

 

[Socrates]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

Is Jesus Christ the Son of God, born of God, and One as God?

What does the Bible say? Do you read it?

 

[Ukorin]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

What does the Bible say? Do you read it?

I was asking you. You are the authority here, not me. I obviously have been misunderstanding the Bible for a long time.

 

[Socrates]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

I was asking you. You are the authority here, not me. I obviously have been misunderstanding the Bible for a long time.

The Holy Spirit just told me you are being insincere.

 

[Ukorin]

Re: ENDLESS HELL IS OF "SEDUCING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS" (1 Timothy 4:1)

The Holy Spirit just told me you are being insincere.

A 4 year old could have told you that one.
But I want to hear you confess the person, Lorship, and divinity of Jesus being the Christ.