Luke 3:1-3
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K
There is a big difference in justification by the law that Galatians 2:21 is talking about, and obedience and walking properly in the Spirit that the Lord Jesus taught. You are trying to mash two different areas, the works of the law and works of the Spirit are two different things. Works of the law are those things done to try and follow and obey the Mosaic laws that do not apply to us. Works of the Spirit is doing what the Lord commanded, and letting the Holy Spirit guide and help you to keep you walking the proper path heading to salvation.
K
What the Lord has told me to do in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, and the Holy Spirit guides me in yes I do do it.
I have been baptized, repented of my sins, do not hold any ill will toward others, keep my confession in Him. Continue to confess my sins to Him (1 John) if and when I do mess up, for Him to cleanse me. Have abstained from most sins, and the few that I struggle with the Holy Spirit is strengthening me and kept them from controlling my life. Why do you believe we can not follow those things He said, including the 10 commandments???
Do you deny what the bible says that I posted in post #18, that we can do all things through Christ ???
F
If a person is walking in the Spirit (as all of God's elect are instructed to do) that is evidence that he is already born of the Spirit and has eternal salvation. Repenting and walking in the Spirit brings about a deliverance (salvation) here in this world for God's elect, but walking in the Spirit does not lead to eternal salvation, that you already have if you are walking in the Spirit.
In dispute of false theologies:
[h=1]Romans
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1 .) Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 .) For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 .) For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 .) For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5 .) For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6 .) But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above
7 .) Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
8 .) But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 .) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 .) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 .) For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 .) For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 .) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 .) How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 .) And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
[h=1]Romans
10[/h]
1 .) Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 .) For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 .) For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 .) For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5 .) For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6 .) But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above
7 .) Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
8 .) But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 .) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 .) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 .) For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 .) For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 .) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 .) How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 .) And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
K
No we have an assurance that we will receive salvation/eternal life by continuing to walk in the Spirit, as it is a mental possession of ours and not a physical one yet. The words in the original Greek are pisteuó and echo.
Pisteuo - means a continuation of belief
Echo - means to have in hand as a mental possession
When you put the two together as applied in the scriptures you get the full meaning and context that if you continue to believe on the Lord you can have assuarance that you will receive salvation/eternal life.
Oh really, you do all that the Lord told you to do.
Do you hate your mother and father, have you cut off your right hand, have you gouged your right eye out?
Where does the bible say that God is pleased with your works by keeping "most" of the law?
I really don't won't to get into this self righteous arguments with you or anyone else.
Do I deny what the bible says in post #18 ... no i don't. I doubt your understanding of those verses.
Do you hate your mother and father, have you cut off your right hand, have you gouged your right eye out?
Where does the bible say that God is pleased with your works by keeping "most" of the law?
I really don't won't to get into this self righteous arguments with you or anyone else.
Do I deny what the bible says in post #18 ... no i don't. I doubt your understanding of those verses.
F
The "Kingdom of heaven" in Matt 7:21 is not eternal heaven, but it is the church that Jesus set up while he was on the earth, in which he is reigning as king and husband of. Not all of his elect are a part of his church, only the very elect. Matt 7:13-14, The strait gate that leads to life (not eternal life but a life within the church that Jesus set up of comfort, joy, peace etc) and few there be that find it. The rest of God's elect children who are believing in false doctrines and not the doctrine of Christ enter the wide gate. The scriptures has many names that refers to his church, such as the little flock, the few, the kingdom of God, the church of Christ, the church of the first born, etc.
K
First, the things you mentioned are not to be taken literal to what they say as you have to understand the context first.
Lord Jesus in saying to hate others in Luke 14:26 is about you are not to love anybody including yourself more then God, as use the cross reference in Matthew 10:37 to understand this.
Second to cut your hand off and gouge your eye out is reference to eliminate all sin from your life. It was not meant as literal to do that. He was emphasizing the importance to purge sin out of your life, and He then sent us the Holy Spirit to help us to do this. For Him and Paul both made an emphasis that no disobedient or impure ( unclean ) person will inherit the kingdom of heaven.
From Lord Jesus all the way through the epistles it emphasizes the importance of obedience and forgiveness of sins do to receiving remission from the Lord through repentance and confession.
F
Those that God gave to Jesus (John 6:37) has an assurance of eternal life in that he would raise them all up at the last day (John 6:39). When Jesus said "it is finished" while upon the cross, he was saying that he had finished the will of his Father. Christ died once as a sacrifice for the sins of all those that God gave him and there will be no more sacrifice, or eternal salvations.
K
Of thelast sayings of Christon the cross, none is more important or more poignant than, “It is finished.” Found only in the Gospel of John, the Greek word translated “it is finished” istetelestai, an accounting term that means “paid in full.” When Jesus uttered those words, He was declaring the debt owed to His Father was wiped away completely and forever. Not that Jesus wiped away any debt thatHeowed to the Father; rather, Jesus eliminated the debt owed by mankind—the debt of sin.
Only the dept for sin is what the Lord accomplished on the cross, and to receive what He did for us is to have faith/belief in Him and in what He said. You can not have one without the other, and He Himself said you have to repent (Luke 13:3) and be baptized (Mark 16:16) to be saved. Apostle Peter confirmed this in Acts 2:38 and 1 Peter 3:21. Then the bible says you can not continue to walk in willful sin and be saved (Hebrews 10:26-27).
F
Repentance and confession brings about a salvation (deliverance) when God forgives you, but that's a deliverance we experience here in this world and has no reference to eternal deliverance. If a person repents and confesses they are already saved eternally, because the carnal man (those void of the Spirit) can not act upon anything that is of a spiritual nature, 1 Cor 2:14.
K
1 Corinthians 2:14 is talking about those who do not have the Holy Spirit can not properly discern and understand the word of God, because it would be foolishness to them. Which we see this from scientific minds who base their life on science and not God trying to debate the word of God with us. The bible says not to even engage these individuals because their unbelief will blind them to the truth. Repentance, confession, and baptism is mentioned all over the NT in connection to eternal life/salvation...........Here is two from the Lord;
Luke 13:3
I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.
Mark 16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
No repentance, and Him showing a believer will get baptized to be saved, both show that without them you will be damned and perish. This takes place in the lake of fire.......
F
The scriptures must harmonize, all of them, and I believe, through many years of unbelief, if you do not rightly divide the salvation scriptures, the scriptures will not harmonize. Most of the salvation scriptures that you think are talking eternal salvation, are actually talking about deliverances we receive here in this world. The bible is not a book of instructions on how to get saved eternally, but it is an instruction book telling His elect how to live there lives here on earth. I can take each scripture you have presented to me and show you whether it is eternal or timely if you want me to, but I have also learned from my own experience that I can make no one see the truth in the scriptures, only the Holy Spirit can reveal those truths.
K
No thank you as I do not prefer to listen to somebody who denies the bible teaches how one receives remission of their sins through the Lord in order to receive salvation/eternal life. Yes it does tell us how to walk properly while still in the flesh, but that is because those who don't walk properly do not receive salvation/eternal life.
The way you talk you have everybody already saved and given eternal life, which is not biblical but false teaching.
The Holy Spirit has revealed the truth to me, so I will listen to Him and not another man.
For He is the one who has pulled me to giving the same teaching of the warnings that He lead Apostle Paul to do to believers about if they let sin control them still. You can not serve both flesh and Spirit and receive eternal life.