Cursed children

ISeeYou · Jan 25, 2015

Utah said:

Why would felix tremble when Paul shared with him the faith of Christ the judgment to come and all of that?

Acts 24:24 And after certain days, when Felix came with his wife Drusilla, which was a Jewess, he sent for Paul, and heard him concerning the faith in Christ.

Acts 24:25 And as he reasoned of righteousness, temperance, and judgment to come, Felix trembled, and answered, Go thy way for this time; when I have a convenient season, I will call for thee.

One of the words is

Emphobos

thrown into fear, terrified, affrighted

Terror is the same as reverance

2 Cr 5:11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

Terror,

is Phobos

fear, dread, terror
1. that which strikes terror
reverence for one's husband

dcontroversal · Jan 25, 2015

JesusLives said:

Paul did not sit down with a pen and start writing some opinion on the scripture....Paul was INSPIRED OF GOD to write what was written and what was written by PAUL is the WORD of GOD and just as valid as any other writer of the BIBLE including MOSES. The very words PAUL wrote came dia revelation from JESUS and are the words of GOD/JESUS.....to take the above view is erroneous!

Utah · Jan 25, 2015

JesusistheChrist said:

Now you're talking. There is indeed great wisdom in your words, but promoting love is usually eclipsed by the ravenous, insatiable appetite of some regarding the spreading of fear.

Utah · Jan 25, 2015

ISeeYou said:

Why would felix tremble when Paul shared with him the faith of Christ the judgment to come and all of that?

Acts 24:24 And after certain days, when Felix came with his wife Drusilla, which was a Jewess, he sent for Paul, and heard him concerning the faith in Christ.

Acts 24:25 And as he reasoned of righteousness, temperance, and judgment to come, Felix trembled, and answered, Go thy way for this time; when I have a convenient season, I will call for thee.

One of the words is

Emphobos

thrown into fear, terrified, affrighted

Terror is the same as reverance

2 Cr 5:11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

Terror,

is Phobos

fear, dread, terror
1. that which strikes terror
reverence for one's husband

Why does Jesus say Repent and believe the Good News?

Do you always fear good news, or just when Jesus speaks of it?

kennethcadwell · Jan 25, 2015

dcontroversal said:

Paul's words are just as important as any others in the bible.
However when you get these people who think he taught differently, or did away with part of what the Lord said as if Paul's words override the Lords then they are teaching falsely. Paul only gave an extension of the meat of the the word, and not bring a different gospel message or Jesus like some make it out to sound like. False Paulinians gospel followers.....

John 16:12
I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

Apostle Paul was commissioned to bring that additional things the Lord was talking about, which is the meat of how a believer is to conduct themselves...............

JesusistheChrist · Jan 25, 2015

Utah said:

I did actually unsubscribe, but I was curious as to how you would respond, so here I am.

I actually agree with you, BUT I find that most people are totally slanted in one direction or the other and I find both to be equally dangerous. Many years ago (back in 1985, to be exact), I was in Pisa, Italy and standing atop the tower of Pisa (I'm pretty sure that people are no longer allowed to go up there). To be quite honest with you, it was a pretty horrifying experience (I wasn't saved then, but it really doesn't matter). IOW, with the tower being as tilted or slanted as it was and with gravity exerting its natural pull, I felt as if I was literally being sucked off the tower and I was standing with my back up against the wall and basically afraid to even move. Here's what really got me...

Back then (and my brother and I just discussed this about 3 weeks ago...he was there with me), there was only a little railing, about the width of a very thin belt, which went around the top of the tower. I mean, with the tilt and the gravitational pull, one would have thought that there would be something much thicker and higher to potentially keep people from falling off of the tower.

Anyhow, I said all of that to say this...

Years later, when I was saved, the Lord reminded me of this incident and had me do some research into the construction of the tower. To my surprise, I learned that THE BUILDERS KNEW, EARLY ON, THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING TERRIBLY WRONG WITH THE FOUNDATION OF THE TOWER AND YET THEY CONTINUED BUILDING.

God used this knowledge to inform me that the church has basically done the very same thing. IOW, He specifically spoke to me about the lack of the fear of God within professing Christendom at that time or how this "foundational truth" was being ignored to the potential peril of many. Of course, even though He didn't address this with me at that time, He could have just as easily spoken to me about the "foundational truth" of the love of God as well, but that is not what He stressed to me at that time. Anyhow, again, we need BOTH the love of God AND the fear of God in our lives and to remove either from our own "foundations" is to invite trouble. In my Christian experience, I've met people who lacked either the love of God or the fear of God and in both cases I've found them to be "tilted" or "slanted" and therefore in danger.

Sorry for the ramble...I should have remained unsubscribed...lol.

ISeeYou · Jan 25, 2015

Utah said:

Maybe because if you dont repent it would be bad news for you?

Ofcourse you dont fear good news

You are the one who said, Fear as in respect, honor and revere, not quiver.

felix got good news, it didnt make him comfortable it made him tremble, Paul equates the terror with fear and reverance, its not necessarily exclusive.

JesusistheChrist · Jan 25, 2015

Utah said:

Again, just to level the field as it were, Jesus also said:

Luke chapter 12

[4] And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
[5] But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

As Christians, we need to be properly balanced.

p_rehbein · Jan 25, 2015

JUST FYI: From Scripture

Job 28:20) Whence then cometh wisdom? and where is the place of understanding?
21 .) Seeing it is hid from the eyes of all living, and kept close from the fowls of the air.
22 .) Destruction and death say, We have heard the fame thereof with our ears.
23 .) God understandeth the way thereof, and he knoweth the place thereof.
24 .) For he looketh to the ends of the earth, and seeth under the whole heaven;
25 .) To make the weight for the winds; and he weigheth the waters by measure.
26 .) When he made a decree for the rain, and a way for the lightning of the thunder:
27 .) Then did he see it, and declare it; he prepared it, yea, and searched it out.
28 .) And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the LORD, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.

Utah · Jan 25, 2015

JesusistheChrist said:

I just came back from jogging, and while I was negotiating the cold weather, snow, ice and sore muscles during my run, I was thinking about our conversation. I realize that I have presented myself incorrectly to you and everyone here.

I don't thumb my nose at God with a spirit and mindset that I don't have to fear Him, like I'm some spoiled, entitled little brat. I do have fear, but what little fear I have is dwarfed ten fold by my thankfulness and joy.

I rejoice in God's love; a love, though displayed on the Cross and recorded for our benefit, cannot possibly be comprehended by us on this side of Heaven. This is why I rejoice as I do and why I encourage people to be at peace. Remember, while we were enemies with God, God sent His Son to die for us. That love is not to be feared, it is to be embraced, glorified and shared with joyful, humble and thankful hearts.

On another note, please don't ever be sorry for sharing a testimony. I'm grateful for what you share, and besides, your Tower story is an excellent one!

Utah · Jan 25, 2015

ISeeYou said:

I never said ANYTHING about not repenting. Don't interject your thoughts with my words. Besides, read post #50.

ISeeYou · Jan 25, 2015

Utah said:

I never said you said anything about not repenting, so please dont inject words into mine, thank you very much

I was commenting from the start on this

Fear as in respect, honor and revere, not quiver.

ISeeYou said:

Then instead of adressing it you threw up another question

And now you are saying I am saying you said something you didnt

Oh please...

Utah · Jan 25, 2015

ISeeYou said:

I don't normally correspond with people who think they know everything but in your case I'll make an exception.

What's your first line in post 47? I believe I see the words, if you don't repent.

Nuff said, I'm done with you! Have a nice day.

KJV1611 · Jan 25, 2015

InSpiritInTruth said:

In Zechariah 5:1-4 we read “Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll.[SUP]2 [/SUP]And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it.
[SUP]
4 [/SUP]I will bring it forth, saith the Lord of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof.”

The thief comes forth to steal Gods words, just as those who swear falsely by the name of the Lord have not been sent by, nor anointed by the Lord. Jesus said in John 10:10 “The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.”

These who come in the name of Truth, but really come in their own name, are of the Destroyer who comes forth to steal, kill, and destroy in the name of the Lord. Their deadly poison is the words they speak, for the poison of asps is in their tongues.

And like fiery serpents their tongues do kindle a fire. James 3:6 “And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

The Lord by the angel told Zechariah of their resemblance through all the earth in Zechariah 5:6. And so this curse applied to all the inhabitants of the earth, even the whole earth as the Lord said in Zechariah 5:3 above.

And notice how the Lord describes “their resemblance” throughout all the earth in Zechariah 5:7-11 “And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah.[SUP]8 [/SUP]And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.[SUP]10 [/SUP]Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah?
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base.

This is “Mystery Babylon” and the woman is spiritual wickedness who is at work in all the earth, this is also “their resemblance” or those who swear falsely by the Lords name.

There are 3 major religions who swear by the name of the Single God of Abraham, (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) and even many other off shoots come from these. But those who proclaim to come in the Lords name (for His name is called the Word of God) and are not chosen of the Lord Himself, even anointed by the Lord’s Holy Spirit; even these are under the curse.

2 Peter 2:14 “Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:”

Did you know that the flying roll and the ephah are foreshadows of Jesus?

Mitspa · Jan 25, 2015

InSpiritInTruth said:

Yes the strength of sin, is the law...of course they cannot stop sinning! Interesting the word there for cease is actually the Greek word for "rest" as in to rest from ones owns works .

InSpiritInTruth · Jan 25, 2015

KJV1611 said:

I'm all ears, what cha got?

Mitspa · Jan 25, 2015

p_rehbein said:

Yes the OLD Testament is based upon fear of God...the New Testament is based upon repentance based on Gods goodness! Its not the same ...and when the Lord quoted the word fear from the Old Testament ...he used the word "worship"...as in you shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall your serve.....This is a direct quote where He (Jesus) changed the word from fear to worship.

InSpiritInTruth · Jan 25, 2015

Mitspa said:

No your still not getting what I'm saying, it has nothing to with the law, never mind.

Mitspa · Jan 25, 2015

InSpiritInTruth said:

Again the folks who are "cursed"..CHILDREN are those God has saved by grace and made them His Children and they have rejected the righteousness of faith and gone back to the law...which puts a believer back under the curse and Paul clearly teaches! Its evident that Peter is talking about legalist. They very scriptures use to condemn others by legalist are the same scriptures that will bring judgment to them when they stand before God and answer for the grace that Christ has given to them and they have despised!

JesusistheChrist · Jan 25, 2015

Utah said:

I just came back from jogging, and while I was negotiating the cold weather, snow, ice and sore muscles during my run, I was thinking about our conversation. I realize that I have presented myself incorrectly to you and everyone here.

I don't thumb my nose at God with a spirit and mindset that I don't have to fear Him, like I'm some spoiled, entitled little brat. I do have fear, but what little fear I have is dwarfed ten fold by my thankfulness and joy.

I rejoice in God's love; a love, though displayed on the Cross and recorded for our benefit, cannot possibly be comprehended by us on this side of Heaven. This is why I rejoice as I do and why I encourage people to be at peace. Remember, while we were enemies with God, God sent His Son to die for us. That love is not to be feared, it is to be embraced, glorified and shared with joyful, humble and thankful hearts.

On another note, please don't ever be sorry for sharing a testimony. I'm grateful for what you share, and besides, your Tower story is an excellent one!

Thanks for clarifying your views...BUT don't ever encourage me to tell stories. I've got a million of them! lol.

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