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Jon4TheCross

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I cannot find any group willing to practice this Biblical form of living, unless it's a group with other serious Biblical principals being ignored...which is not all things common with God...So I have two more days left of working for money (2 weeks notice) and I will go to the woods again and practice all things common also with God. Wow, what a priviledge to be able to practice all things common with God. I am very excited that I only have 2 days left.

2 Corinthians 8:7-9King James Version (KJV)

7*Therefore, as ye abound in every thing, in faith, and utterance, and knowledge, and in all diligence, and in your love to us, see that ye abound in this grace also.
8*I speak not by commandment, but by occasion of the forwardness of others, and to prove the sincerity of your love.
9*For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

Acts 4:31-33King James Version (KJV)

31*And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.
32*And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
33*And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.

Some people think about all things common and ask why...I think about all things common and ask...why not?
 

Jon4TheCross

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Why not? Anyone? I have an idea why, but if nobody has any excuses...thank you, as silence is better than excuses...most of the time.
 

ISeeYou

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Jon4Thecross, I read your post but Im not sure what its about, are you indicating we should all go camping and stop working?
 

Jon4TheCross

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Jon4Thecross, I read your post but Im not sure what its about, are you indicating we should all go camping and stop working?
I am not going to stop working, and will be burning more calories than most people working...so no, it has nothing to do with not working. I also am not suggesting anyone go "camping", and mostly because that word is not clearly defined. I was just saying that I found a way to practice all things common, and it happens to be in the woods, cause I don't need money out there, but I don't really need money where I'm at either.

It is true that after being baptized Jesus went out to solitude. I wonder how many have followed Him that way?
 

crossnote

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Go where you're called but don't expect all to be called to the same calling.
 

ISeeYou

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I am not going to stop working, and will be burning more calories than most people working...so no, it has nothing to do with not working. I also am not suggesting anyone go "camping", and mostly because that word is not clearly defined. I was just saying that I found a way to practice all things common, and it happens to be in the woods, cause I don't need money out there, but I don't really need money where I'm at either.

It is true that after being baptized Jesus went out to solitude. I wonder how many have followed Him that way?
You have no choice to follow him in that way really as the Spirit is the one (after his baptism) that led him into the wilderness to be tempted of Satan, as we are told, that God also will not suffer us to be tempted above that which we are able as even God put limits on what Satan could do to Job (thus far no further).

But I dont see how that means the Spirit will lead you to go camping (in a literal sense) but this is speaking of the trial of our faith, and his 40 days in such a place seems more like a compounded figure of their 40 years in the wilderness.

I dont really see him out there in solitude so much as Satan kept him company until he resisted and the devil fled from him and he come back in the power of the Spirit.

They still went house to house (not tent to tent) here

Acts 2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;

Acts 2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

Acts 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

Abraham Isaac and Jacob dwelled in tents, the apostle Paul's craft was a tentmaker, so if anyone could make and occupy a tent Paul certainly could, he stayed with folks who worked the same craft, but doesnt encourage not working, which you state you are not saying.

But if you feel led to go camping for awhile I think its a great idea for a get away

I seriously have to go on a diet myself, my diets always require more food to lose, I get fat eating one meal a day, and I detest having all my time consumed around food prep, and I like to cook.

Its just a real drag to have to be bothered so much in those things
 
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There are different ways to do that, God bless you in the way you found or He showed to you, to do it.
The important it's to find it, of course we all can't do the same way, but it is important to do. To disconnect of this chaotic society and be in person in the presence of God and to listen only to His voice.
 
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Some people think about all things common and ask why...I think about all things common and ask...why not?
yahshua simply said "........... ........... ........... ................. "

and those seeking messiah and/or seeking yahweh don't ask anything (per se. they are simply ready and do as he says, or they're not ready and so they don't obey nor follow him) - it's not as if he gave disciples a choice to disagree with him.

he told us/them , come, leave everything, and follow me....

and those who do/ did/ were rewarded/ are rewarded.

those who ask 'why' or 'why not', and wait for an answer as if to chose for themselves if they want to obey,
they earn for themselves the wages of sin.
 

Jon4TheCross

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I am not saying everyone should go out to the woods, and I am going to be in the woods on a public trail which is well used. So whenever God wants me to be in solitude...all I have to do is go deeper in the woods where people can't find me temporarily.

Still...I won't deny that I have no desire to join any group not practicing all things common with God...so the trail walkers I assume are the target through me for now...unless God tells me to go somewhere else I will remain out there...separate to even the most sceptical eyes.

So anyhow...I didn't say everyone should do this...but single people for sure would not regret it. Last time was more awesome than I can even say. And now that I have no close friends or family (the kind that wants to do something more together for the glory of God continuously)...I am very glad God is allowing me to go out for good I hope this time.

I honestly am not judging...I am simply saying that we should all do whatever it takes to know we are seperate, and whatever it takes for the world to see also that we are separate. I don't think much of the world is impressed with what we consider separate...and so I don't blame them for doubting the way of the church goers...in fact..I often tell them to look at the body language of a church when finding a church family...not what comes out of their mouth.

2 Corinthians 6:16-18King James Version (KJV)

16*And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17*Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
18*And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
 

ISeeYou

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Ive been on worship in the woods retreats before, and went with a bunch of people.

This was many many years ago, when I could hike, and we hiked to the top of a mountain overlooking this huge lake it was really beautiful.

There would be teaching throughout the day, and worship around the lake during the day (by camp fire by night) and on the mountain top.

And we had a great time worshipping the Lord from a mountain top

In fact it was here (but this is not from the top of the mountain) this is at the base, but this is the exact campsite in NJ

[video=youtube;9q6DoTMItQo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q6DoTMItQo[/video]

I didnt really watch the whole video, I just snagged this off of youtube so I dont know what the teaching is.
 

Jon4TheCross

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Nice. Obviously it was an experience not forgotten.
 

JimmieD

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I cannot find any group willing to practice this Biblical form of living, unless it's a group with other serious Biblical principals being ignored...which is not all things common with God...So I have two more days left of working for money (2 weeks notice) and I will go to the woods again and practice all things common also with God. Wow, what a priviledge to be able to practice all things common with God. I am very excited that I only have 2 days left.

2 Corinthians 8:7-9King James Version (KJV)

7*Therefore, as ye abound in every thing, in faith, and utterance, and knowledge, and in all diligence, and in your love to us, see that ye abound in this grace also.
8*I speak not by commandment, but by occasion of the forwardness of others, and to prove the sincerity of your love.
9*For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

Acts 4:31-33King James Version (KJV)

31*And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.
32*And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
33*And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.

Some people think about all things common and ask why...I think about all things common and ask...why not?
Why doesn't anyone live like the earliest church in Jerusalem tried to live? Because once you have a group sufficiently large enough, it doesn't work. There is even a breakdown in group cohesion in Acts:

6:1 Now in thosedays, when the disciples were growing in number,a complaint arose on the part of the Greek-speaking Jewsagainst the native Hebraic Jews,because their widowswere being overlookedin the daily distribution of food.
 

Jon4TheCross

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Here's a little more reasoning. First, I know God approves of trusting that there is one needful thing.

38*Now it came to pass, as they went, that he entered into a certain village: and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house.
39*And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word.
40*But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me.
41*And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things:
42*But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.

Second...God has not called me to serve tables, and if He has called you to...then I pray you do it with all.

Acts 6 King James Version (KJV)

6*And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration.
2*Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve tables.
3*Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business.
4*But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word.

I like that word continually.
Third... though he slay me, yet will I trust Him. He has made it easy for me, cause I have nothing to lose.

Job 13:14-16King James Version (KJV)

14*Wherefore do I take my flesh in my teeth, and put my life in mine hand?
15*Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him: but I will maintain mine own ways before him.
16*He also shall be my salvation: for an hypocrite shall not come before him.

Fourth...

Isaiah 55:10-12King James Version (KJV)

10*For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
11*So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
12*For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.
 

Jon4TheCross

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Why doesn't anyone live like the earliest church in Jerusalem tried to live? Because once you have a group sufficiently large enough, it doesn't work. There is even a breakdown in group cohesion in Acts:

6:1 Now in thosedays, when the disciples were growing in number,a complaint arose on the part of the Greek-speaking Jewsagainst the native Hebraic Jews,because their widowswere being overlookedin the daily distribution of food.
God gave a remedy to that situation if you keep reading.

I encourage anyone to ask themselves why not all things common? Then make a personal list of Biblical excuses if you can even find any...and see how big the list is.
 

ISeeYou

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Nice. Obviously it was an experience not forgotten.
Yeah it was, I hope you have a good time.

And to be quite honest with you I hate camping, being hot and sticky, and the bugs (forget it, Im a real girly girl with bugs). I had only gone camping one other time, and that was when I was in the Army, and I dreaded the whole thing in there also. But then when we went when it was cooler, that too was not that fun because my buddy Rose had gotten frostbite and this was down in Ft McClellan Alabama.

But at the worship in the woods, we stayed in cabins

Although the one year before going I was exposed to the chickenpocks (watching a church members daughter) who didnt tell me why she was home sick. And I think because folks assume because your older you had the chickenpocks when you were younger, but I never did. So, the one year I broke out in the chickenpocks.

That stunk, because everything seemed so much harder, like that hike, I still made it, but I couldnt figure out why that hike seemed so much harder and why 95 degrees felt like 110 degrees (at the time) LOL

Have fun on your campout
 

damombomb

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It should be exciting. I will keep you in my prayers for whatever he has for you.
 

Jon4TheCross

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Thanks. I would only ask that whenever you might possibly remember me...please pray that I would do the will of God, and not my will.

It is still quite cool in the northwest (Washington to be specific), but my last name is Winters...and I like the winter lol. Thank you for your input, and all who have given their input. I do value it very much.

I still am praying about which public trail to walk. It will probably be the American discovery trail, but I am still a bit uncertain. Funny is the fact that the last time I went into the woods (which was not a trail, but solitude), the road to the horse trail that led down the mountain into the valley happened to be called "Last Chance road" lol.

The Lord does work in mysterious ways.
 

ISeeYou

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You got bears up there in Washington?
 

Jon4TheCross

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Yes. Fear of wild creatures is something I have already dealt with thanks to God.
 

ISeeYou

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Yes. Fear of wild creatures is something I have already dealt with thanks to God.
Praise God! Even Jesus was out there with the beasts himself.

I'm not sure if I would be afraid of the beasts, probably if I was alone, although if I was out there alone I have no reservations about carrying a gun, just in case I had to scare them off if I encountered any.

But, I wouldnt want to shoot anything, especially a bear, because they dont make for good eating, and if I was fasting I that would be a waste anyway.