It Is Not Possible To "Know God."
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How about if you keep your best insulting comments to yourself before you get into trouble?
Tell us:
1.) Anything you know of God which is not clearly given in Scripture.
2.) About any Scripture which says anyone can "know God."
Remember, just because anyone who has seen Jesus has seen The Father does not mean they know The Father. Seeing someone has little to do with knowing them, regardless of how white knuckled fundy they might be.
Tell us:
1.) Anything you know of God which is not clearly given in Scripture.
2.) About any Scripture which says anyone can "know God."
Remember, just because anyone who has seen Jesus has seen The Father does not mean they know The Father. Seeing someone has little to do with knowing them, regardless of how white knuckled fundy they might be.
Maybe if you could explain to us your view and what your point is, it would be easier for us to understand, because as it stands, I'm not sure what you are getting at to be perfectly honest.
"Remember, expressing all kinds of different ideas does not mean a particular question has been addressed"
This is also true for yourself and basing your entire view on one verse does not prove anything really. As it was already pointed out, you pit scripture against itself when there are other verses that say in the present tense that we have eternal life and that our souls are sealed til the day of redemption. Our sinful corpse aside, we have eternal life now.
Not will have, but have.
"Remember, expressing all kinds of different ideas does not mean a particular question has been addressed"
This is also true for yourself and basing your entire view on one verse does not prove anything really. As it was already pointed out, you pit scripture against itself when there are other verses that say in the present tense that we have eternal life and that our souls are sealed til the day of redemption. Our sinful corpse aside, we have eternal life now.
Not will have, but have.
Good verse, heres two question verses to yours as well
1John 3:17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
Jerm 22:16 He judged the cause of the poor and needy; then it was well with him:was not this to know me? saith the LORD.
The last verse can be shown through these other two as well (the "cause of" the poor)
Prov 29:7 The righteous considereth the cause of the poor: but the wicked regardeth not to know it.
Psalm 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.
Jerm 22:16 He judged the cause of the poor and needy; then it was well with him:was not this to know me? saith the LORD.
1John 3:17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
Jerm 22:16 He judged the cause of the poor and needy; then it was well with him:was not this to know me? saith the LORD.
The last verse can be shown through these other two as well (the "cause of" the poor)
Prov 29:7 The righteous considereth the cause of the poor: but the wicked regardeth not to know it.
Psalm 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.
Jerm 22:16 He judged the cause of the poor and needy; then it was well with him:was not this to know me? saith the LORD.
Lol. Is something stopping you from asking as perhaps you "would" ... ? Ask away. In fact, I am so amenable to tender and tenuous questions, I shall hereby proceed with a special little answer just for you, even though your patronizing inquiry about my spiritual health has nothing to do with the issue in this Thread.
Yes, Dear Believer, I am born again and filled with The Holy Spirit, exactly as spoken of in Scripture. Lol.
Now tell me, what do you know of God beyond what is clearly disclosed about Him in Scripture? Anything?
Yes, Dear Believer, I am born again and filled with The Holy Spirit, exactly as spoken of in Scripture. Lol.
Now tell me, what do you know of God beyond what is clearly disclosed about Him in Scripture? Anything?
TE=ForthAngel;1877090]Maybe if you could explain to us your view and what your point is, it would be easier for us to understand, because as it stands, I'm not sure what you are getting at to be perfectly honest.
"Remember, expressing all kinds of different ideas does not mean a particular question has been addressed"
This is also true for yourself and basing your entire view on one verse does not prove anything really. As it was already pointed out, you pit scripture against itself when there are other verses that say in the present tense that we have eternal life and that our souls are sealed til the day of redemption. Our sinful corpse aside, we have eternal life now.
Not will have, but have.[/QUOTE]
Does your body and your sentient awareness as it now exists have eternal life, or just the promis of a heritage for eternal life? Remember, if you know God, you will know His exact answer to this question with axiomatic certainty, and will not dodge the issue of this Thread.
What do you know about God beyond what is clearly disclosed in Scripture? Anything? Because knowledge of God far exceeds what is penned in your Bible. In fact, I would wager any amount you cannot understand even the limited self disclosure by God within Scripture.
Lol. This confirms many things about today's Evangelical mindset.
"Remember, expressing all kinds of different ideas does not mean a particular question has been addressed"
This is also true for yourself and basing your entire view on one verse does not prove anything really. As it was already pointed out, you pit scripture against itself when there are other verses that say in the present tense that we have eternal life and that our souls are sealed til the day of redemption. Our sinful corpse aside, we have eternal life now.
Not will have, but have.[/QUOTE]
Does your body and your sentient awareness as it now exists have eternal life, or just the promis of a heritage for eternal life? Remember, if you know God, you will know His exact answer to this question with axiomatic certainty, and will not dodge the issue of this Thread.
What do you know about God beyond what is clearly disclosed in Scripture? Anything? Because knowledge of God far exceeds what is penned in your Bible. In fact, I would wager any amount you cannot understand even the limited self disclosure by God within Scripture.
Lol. This confirms many things about today's Evangelical mindset.
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[h=1]Jeremiah 9:23-24King James Version (KJV)[/h]23 Thus saith the Lord, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:
24 But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the Lord which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the Lord.
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I would agree with Paul. We have eternal life now and only inhabit a body like a tent. Extrabiblical theories, philosophies, and doctrines hold no weight for me and most people here. Here is what the bible says regarding your question above:
It would seem that our body is nothing more than a temporary home. We are not our body. We merely occupy it. Therefore, we do have eternal life NOW. We just haven't gone home to our final home yet. So we occupy and wait for death or Christ's return.
I'm interested to know your answer to your own question since you seem to have some foreign and unknown knowledge that the rest of us don't. Please enlighten us.
I would agree with Paul. We have eternal life now and only inhabit a body like a tent. Extrabiblical theories, philosophies, and doctrines hold no weight for me and most people here. Here is what the bible says regarding your question above:
It would seem that our body is nothing more than a temporary home. We are not our body. We merely occupy it. Therefore, we do have eternal life NOW. We just haven't gone home to our final home yet. So we occupy and wait for death or Christ's return.
I'm interested to know your answer to your own question since you seem to have some foreign and unknown knowledge that the rest of us don't. Please enlighten us.
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[h=1]Matthew 11:25-27King James Version (KJV)[/h]25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
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