What IS Law?

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Hizikyah

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"Instructions" are more accurate to the Hebrew word Torah. and they are IMO anything that the Most High Commands and yes they are written down throughout the book, now if one uses them in the inended manner or reads and twists them is another matter altogether... also too much text to type/paste here if you are asking for a complete biblical list? IDK if that's what you mean?
 
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"Instructions" are more accurate to the Hebrew word Torah. and they are IMO anything that the Most High Commands and yes they are written down throughout the book, now if one uses them in the inended manner or reads and twists them is another matter altogether... also too much text to type/paste here if you are asking for a complete biblical list? IDK if that's what you mean?
Yes. I know what the word means, I just want to know what it is. Is it as complicated as posting lots of text? Is that what is going to be written on our hearts?
 

Hizikyah

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Yes. I know what the word means, I just want to know what it is. Is it as complicated as posting lots of text? Is that what is going to be written on our hearts?
Well I think that yeah we are going to change and feel certain things are wrong, slowly over time. But to think we don;t need to read is error IMO, because according to Him His word is His Spirit, so I think we pray read and ask for understanding and guidance, that is what I do. Could we lern about the Messiah and WHAT HE SAID and INSTRUCTED if we closed the book and refused to read yet thought He would put it all on us? Some of it yes, but I would think one would have to be in such string connection to understand without reading, Ive never met anyone capable. I think IT STARTS with the written words and then He guides us to understanding the Spirit of those written words and we grow from there, if one refuse to read their start may be of their own imagination and not His base, why would He leave us a book if not to read? Have you ever met anyone that the Law was fully written on their heart and they never read? Part of the Law it is a Law to meditate on His righteous precepts, IMO so we can mentally/physically bind them to us so when it is time HE will give us the Spiritual understanding and guidance, so much more than this but I dont want to go on and on...
 

Hizikyah

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Really summed up:

Matt 7:12, "So then, whatever you desire that others would do to and for you, even so do also to and for them, for this is (sums up) the Law and the Prophets."

Great 2 that all fall within these:

Matt 22:36-40, "Teacher, what is the greatest commandment in the Law? Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

Loving our fellow human briefly summed up:

Romans 13:8-10, "Owe no man anything, except to love one another, for he who loves another has performed the Law. For the commandments: You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not bring false testimony, You shall not covet, and all other commandments are summed up in these Laws; namely: You must love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law."

The entire Law (great 2 love Yah/love others) a little more explained:

The Ten Commandments
And Yahweh spoke all these words, saying: I am Yahweh your Heavenly Father Who brought you out ofthe land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

1 You shall have no hinder gods In My face.

Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) another, other, following
1a) following, further
1b) other, different

Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
From H0309; properly hinder; generally next, other, etc.:(an-) other (man), following, next, strange.


2 You shall not make for yourselfany carved image; (an idol), in the form of anything in heaven above, or on the earth beneath, or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them nor serve them; for I, Yahweh your Father, am a jealous Heavenly Father, punishing the children for the lawbreaking ofthe fathers to the third and fourth generation ofthose who hate Me, But showing love to thousands who love Me by keeping My Laws.


3 You shall not take the Name of Yahweh your Heavenly Father to bring it to nothing, for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless who brings dishonor upon or profanes His Name.

7723 - shav
shav: emptiness, vanity - Original Word: שָׁוְא - Part of Speech: Noun Masculine - Transliteration: shav - Phonetic Spelling: (shawv) - Short Definition: vain

7723 - shav
NAS Exhaustive Concordance - Word Origin from an unused word - Definition: emptiness, vanity

7723 - shav
Brown-Driver-Briggs שָׁוְא noun [masculine] emptiness, vanity

7723 - shav
Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) emptiness, vanity, falsehood - 1a) emptiness, nothingness, vanity - 1b) emptiness of speech, lying - 1c) worthlessness (of conduct)



4 Remember the Sabbath Day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, But the bSeventh Day is the Sabbath of Yahweh your Heavenly Father. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your wife, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor the stranger who dwells within your gates. For in six days Yahweh made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them; and rested the Seventh Day. Therefore, Yahweh blessed the Sabbath Day, and dhallowed it; Yahweh made the Sabbath Day holy.

Hebrews 4:1-11, "Therefore, since a promise of entering His rest remains, let us fear so that none of you should come short of it. For this message was preached to us, as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not benefit them, because they did not share in the faith of those who obeyed-- However, we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: So I vowed in My wrath, They will not enter into My rest, although the works were finished from the foundation of the world, For He spoke in a certain place of the Seventh Day, in this way: And Yahweh rested the Seventh Day from all His works. And in this place again: If they will enter into My rest. Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience, Again, He designates a certain day, saying in David: ''Today,'' after so long a time, as it has been said: Today, if you will hear His voice, do not harden your hearts. If Yahshua (ben Nun) had given them rest he would not have spoken afterward of another day. Therefore, there remains the keeping of the Sabbath (word G#4520) to the people of Yahweh, For he who has entered into His rest (word G#2663) has also ceased from his own works, as Yahweh did from His. Therefore, let us be zealous to enter into that rest (word G#2663), so that no one may fall after the same example of unbelief."

4520 - sabbatismos
sabbatismos: a sabbath rest
Original Word: σαββατισμός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Short Definition: a Sabbath rest
Definition: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.
Word Origin - from a derivation of sabbaton
Definition - a sabbath rest

2663 - katapausis
katapausis: rest
Original Word: κατάπαυσις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: katapausis
Phonetic Spelling: (kat-ap'-ow-sis)
Short Definition: resting, rest
Definition: (in the Old Testament of the rest attained by the settlement in Canaan), resting, rest, dwelling, habitation.
Word Origin - from katapauó
Definition - rest

Contrast words 4520 from Hebrews 4:9 to all the other "NT" mentions of Sabbath:

Hebrews 4:9, "Therefore, there remains the keeping of the Sabbath (word G#4520) to the people of Yahweh."

4520 - sabbatismos
sabbatismos: a sabbath rest
Original Word: σαββατισμός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Short Definition: a Sabbath rest
Definition: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.
Word Origin - from a derivation of sabbaton
Definition - a sabbath rest
1 Occurrence

Heb 4:2, "For this message was preached to us, as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not benefit them, because they did not share in the faith of those who obeyed. "

Revelation 14:13, "And I heard a voice from heaven saying to me: Write: Blessed are the dead, the ones dying in the Messiah from now on! Yes, says the Spirit: because they will rest from their labors, and their works do follow them!"

Revelation 21:4-8 And Yahweh will wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there will be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, nor will there be any more pain, for the former things have passed away. And He Who sat upon the throne, said: Behold, I make all things new. And He said to me: Write, for these words are true and faithful.And He said to me: It is done! I am Aleph and Tau, the Beginning and the End. I will give to him who thirsts of the fountain of the water of life freely. He who overcomes will inherit all things; and I will be his Father, and he will be My son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and worshipers of false gods, and all liars, will have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone--which is the second death."


5 Honor your father and your mother, so your days may be long upon the land which Yahweh your Father is giving you.

Ephesians 6:2-3, "Honor your father and mother; which is the first commandment with a promise: That it may be well with you, and you may live long on the earth."


6 You shall not murder.


7 You shall not commit adultery.


8 You shall not steal.



9 You shall not bear false testimony against your neighbor.


10 You shall not covet; lust after, your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that belongs to your neighbor

Explained: 613+

Can any human alive break any of the 10 or 613+ and still be loving Yah and His fellow human?
 
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BIBLE: Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth :)
 

breno785au

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Romans 13:10
Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
 
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In reading this bible, it tells us that the Gentiles, who HAD NOT THE LAW (written) did by NATURE the things contained in the law. How then is the law simply a set of written instructions?
 

Hizikyah

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In reading this bible, it tells us that the Gentiles, who HAD NOT THE LAW (written) did by NATURE the things contained in the law. How then is the law simply a set of written instructions?
His Spirit is upon them, however, do they know everything? If they did why was the Letter to the Gentiles written telling them to do/not do certain things before they can entering a place of worship? (Acts 15). Your my brother and friend, so dont take this the wrong way but this is a perfect example of when Peter said people can twist Paul's words.... Ohh Paul say Gentiles have it written on their heart, I will ignore everything written.... I personally cross recfrence my heart with the written word so I can see if Im in line with it.

Isayah 59:21, "As for Me, this is My covenant with them, says Yahweh: My Spirit which is upon you, namely My Word (Instructions) which I have put in your mouth; they will not depart from your mouth, nor from the mouth of your seed, nor from the mouth of your seed's seed, says Yahweh: from this time and forevermore."

John 6:63, "It is the Spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The Words (Instructions) that I speak to you, they are Spirit, and they are life everlasting."
 

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Here is two laws shown in Pauls words

Gal 4:21 Tell me,
ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?


And then Paul starts here in Abraham (in respects to hearing the law) concerning them who desire to be under the law

Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham

Which through Abraham goes right into the two women allegorically understood as the two covenants in the instruction of what Paul called the law there. And within that same is shown the law within it.


 
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What exactly IS the Law of God? Can this Law be listed?
It was the name for the Pentateuch, as well as one of the names for all of the OT Scriptures.

It is the law given to Moses.

In the NT, it is Mt 22:37-40.
 
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Matthew 22:37
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Matthew 22:39
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


Luke 6:47
Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them......

Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 28:19-20
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

Acts 15:20
But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, andfrom fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Acts 15:29
That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Romans 13:9
For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.





Just to name a few...................
 
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tidbits: >>

The Torah of Righteousness

A hebraic definition of Torah is "a set of Instructions, from a father to his children, violation of these instructions are disciplined in order to foster obedience and train his children". Notice how the word "Torah" is translated in the New International Version translation in the following passages.

God, as our heavenly Father, gives his children his Torah in the same manner as parents give their Torah to their children, not in the manner as a government does to its citizens;


About the Ancient Hebrew Culture

Torah (Law)

The Hebrew word "Torah" is usually translated into the English word "Law". Because of this translation there is a great misunderstanding of what "Torah" truly is. "TORAH IS NOT LAW". When we use the word "law" we assume a certain meaning and concept of the word that is not present in the Hebrew Scriptures.
 

tribesman

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Very important to understand that the law of God is never at any time separated from or in disagreement with the Torah or the Pentateuch (the five books of Moses) and all its requirements.
 
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Mitspa

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Very important to understand that the law of God is never at any time separated from or in disagreement with the Torah or the Pentateuch (the five books of Moses) and all its requirements.
Not sure what your saying? The law is not of faith...what do you think that means and do you understand the difference between the law of faith and the law of works?
 

gotime

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2Ti 3:16 Every scripture inspired of God is also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction which is in righteousness.
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be complete, furnished completely unto every good work.

Interesting because the "scripture" spoken of here is the Old Testament. no new one at this time.

So if you want to be complete, righteous, corrected etc then Go to the Old Testament.

which is the "law" and the Prophets. hmm can't be all that bad.