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Stand_Up_4_God

Stand_Up_4_God

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I did a search online, and here's some answers I found.

Hebrew superstition says you cannot completely spell out the name of God. You also can't speak His name, because you might break the commandment to not take His name in vain.

It's to show respect for him in the Jewish and other religions by not writing his name.

The Jews do that and I heard that they shouldn't spell out his whole name because it's disrespect or something.

Cuz thier jews and there is a prohibition of writing his full name.
 
MahogonySnail

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The thing is "God" is not his name.. and I think hyphenating the o, carries with it a lot of pretense..considering the OP also is a pot smoker, and so the G-d business.. is nothing more than a tradition of man.
 
Nuhen

Nuhen

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Stand_Up_4_God said:
I did a search online, and here's some answers I found.

Hebrew superstition says you cannot completely spell out the name of God. You also can't speak His name, because you might break the commandment to not take His name in vain.

It's to show respect for him in the Jewish and other religions by not writing his name.

The Jews do that and I heard that they shouldn't spell out his whole name because it's disrespect or something.

Cuz thier jews and there is a prohibition of writing his full name.
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That about sums it up. It's also in accordance with a verse in the Torah that says not to write G-d's Name on something that can be thrown away - which is the modern equivalent of the internet, as posts can be deleted (read: thrown away).

But it's an entirely personal thing. I just choose to do it out of reverence, but I also respect those who choose not to.
 
Nuhen

Nuhen

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MahogonySnail said:
The thing is "God" is not his name.. and I think hyphenating the o, carries with it a lot of pretense..considering the OP also is a pot smoker, and so the G-d business.. is nothing more than a tradition of man.
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lol@ pot smoker. I've done it once, decided not to do it again, at least not while it's illegal. Hardly makes me a pot smoker :p

At any rate, "G-d" is one of His Names. Else, why would everyone call Him that, instead of one of His other Names?
 
MahogonySnail

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J-s-s Chr-st -s th- s-n -f G-d. I could get used to this :D
 
Nuhen

Nuhen

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MahogonySnail said:
J-s-s Chr-st -s th- s-n -f G-d. I could get used to this :D
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I don't suppose it's possible for you to not be so asinine about someone's personal convictions they aren't forcing on anyone else and have sufficient biblical back-up to have said convictions? ;)
 
MahogonySnail

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I think typing G-d is a bit silly.. it's not like He can't figure out it says God. Why not just type <insert name here> ?
 
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Nuhen said:
I've been here 3 days now, and I keep seeing the same thing in just about every thread.

This forum is called "bible discussion", yet it seems the posters are more interested in being right or wrong or in "agreeing to disagree" rather than actually discussing the issues put forth so as to better gain an understanding of the Word of G-d, and I'll admit, this troubles me.

I assume all of us here follow G-d, correct? Albeit, some of us do it differently, but we still follow Him. So shouldn't we ALL desire to get deeper into His Word, to gain better understanding of it? You can't do that by aiming to be right and prove others wrong, nor can you do it by "agreeing to disagree".

Is not the Word important enough TO discuss? Should we not meditate on the Word of G-d day and night (Ps. 1:2)? Should we not learn what G-D wants us to understand, rather than lean on our own understanding (Prov. 3:5)?

Am I in the wrong for thinking any of the above?
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Welcome to the world of Christian debating websites. Many are only interested in preaching to others andv proving themselves right. Some will quote you much scripture, and will expect you to accept it, but they will ignore the scripture you post if it doesn't fit in with their theology.
I guess for you to truly discuss God's word and learn the deeper meanings to it you need to be in a church group.
Personally I believe man's own wisdom amd understanding are a stumbling block to the things of God. My advice would be stick to what the Bible actually says. No-one with a revelation from God could go against plainly written scripture, I try to always remember that.
There are some great people on this site who I know I can learn much from, but they will never go against the Bible. That always is my bottom line
 
Nuhen

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MahogonySnail said:
I think typing G-d is a bit silly.. it's not like He can't figure out it says God. Why not just type <insert name here> ?
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My question is why do you care? I'm not forcing or even saying anyone should do it. Heck, I don't even bring it up unless people ask.
 
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Ma-maa

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MahogonySnail said:
I think typing G-d is a bit silly.. it's not like He can't figure out it says God. Why not just type <insert name here> ?
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lol. The point is not to somehow trick G-d into thinking we're not talking about him. They point is, they have a great respect for G-d, and don't want to use his name lightly. Is G-d a title and not a name? Well yes and no. It's strictly speaking a title, but we use it as though it's a name. So they take a little extra precaution.

Why do you have such an issue with this, Ruin? What happened to not causing your brother to stumble? I have only a few posts here, but I've been watching the forums off and on since October and every time anyone hyphenates G-d, you make a big fuss. It isn't like they came in here and started harrassing you for being arrogant or disrespectful or silly for using an o. Why can't you just live and let live?

And for the record, I hyphenate G-d out of respect for both G-d and for my brothers and sisters who have a problem with it. I don't think it's a sin to write G-d with an o in it or anything silly like that, but all the same I won't do it. Can you all live with that?

Thank you.

Also, I'm not Jewish.
 
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It's different so it must be evil, don't you know??? *rolls eyes*
 
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Ma-maa

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Ahh, of course! How could I forget? My apologies, Ruin :p
 
MahogonySnail

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My question is why do you care? I'm not forcing or even saying anyone should do it. Heck, I don't even bring it up unless people ask.
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Well it's a little bit annoying,, and I think it's a little bit pretentious. Why don't you hyphenate the G or the d? -od? Go- ? Ma-am..would you NOT hyphenate God, out of respect for those who don't like hyphenation ? :p
 
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Well it's a little bit annoying,, and I think it's a little bit pretentious. Why don't you hyphenate the G or the d? -od? Go- ? Ma-am..would you NOT hyphenate God, out of respect for those who don't like hyphenation ? :p
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I don't understand why it annoys you so. It isn't like you can't read it, as you've pointed out so many times. You could hyphenate the o or the g if you prefered, but it's more difficult to read that way. Not to mention, Hebrew speakers are used to not having vowels, so it makes sense lol.

Haha. I'm afraid not, sir. Did you miss the part of the post where I said "out of respect for G-d..."? Not to mention that, even aside from my personal feelings on the matter, I have been hyphenating the word for a very long time now and I'm not sure it's a habit I could break easily. I don't even conciously think about it unless I'm questioned.

I believe Paul teaches that "All things are permissable, but not all are desirable", and that if one person feels free from a certain religious obligation or abstination while another does not, the free person should not be a stumbling block to the other. Is this not so?

No one's saying you have to start hyphenating the word G-d, but I would appreciate it if you could show some kindness and understang toward those of us who choose to do so. It really isn't that big of an issue, I think you blow it way out of proportion.
 
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actually it is absurd
the concept is that you must not say YaHVeH so you write it YHVH and say adonai - hebrew has no vowels
to transfer this concept to english and end up writing G-D and saying nothing is really quite ridiculous
 
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greatkraw said:
actually it is absurd
the concept is that you must not say YaHVeH so you write it YHVH and say adonai - hebrew has no vowels
to transfer this concept to english and end up writing G-D and saying nothing is really quite ridiculous
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Haha, I think you misunderstood. I wasn't saying that Hebew had no vowels so they won't write the vowel in G-d. I was merely saying that it's easier to read without vowels than without consonants, particularly if you already read a language without vowels.

Truly sir, you're very bold. Where did you get that understanding of HaShem? Nobody knows what vowels might be transposed there, because they're not recorded. They do not say YHVH to avoid saying the name, because that IS the name. All ancient Hebrew and most modern Hebrew is written in that way. There are no vowels in ancient Hebrew writing. And the far more common substitution is HaShem, which literally means 'The Name', rather than adonai. Adonai is not specific to G-d, though it is often used of him.
 
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I Am, I was, I will be
Yah seems pretty conclusive eg YahShua, halleluYah
V?H is up for grabs :D
 
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greatkraw said:
I Am, I was, I will be
Yah seems pretty conclusive eg YahShua, halleluYah
V?H is up for grabs :D
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Again, the a is assumed. By YahShua I assume you're referring to Jesus' Hebrew name? That is a valid translation, but it's not the only one, or even the most common. I've almost always seen it spelt Yeshua.

So no, the a is not conclusive. Plausable, perhaps even probable, but absolutely not conclusive.
 
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Hey , come on guys, there is no reason to be rude. Just because it's something you don't do and something you find silly are you really going to make that big of a deal about it? This is just like if I told you the way you pray looks silly, or the way your face looks when you revere God is rediculous. If this is how they want to show that God is more important than anything on Earth, so much that nothing on Earth is worthy to write His name on, then let them do it. It doesn't cause you to stumble, it doesn't put their or your salvation on the line, and nobody has forced it on you. Just like crossing yourself, it has no real power, it's not to save them, it's a personal sign of respect to their Lord. Are you going to tell them that it's rediculous and silly to show respect to the Lord? When the woman poured expesive perfume on Jesus, and the Apostles were flabberghasted that she didn't sell it to help the poor instead, even Jesus asked them why they wouldn't let her do that for Him. So what wall have you erected in your heart that would make you scoff at people for taking the Lord's name with reverance, respect, and love?
 
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I am discussing what they do to the english word god
 
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