I have one question.

[Nuhen]

I've been here 3 days now, and I keep seeing the same thing in just about every thread.

This forum is called "bible discussion", yet it seems the posters are more interested in being right or wrong or in "agreeing to disagree" rather than actually discussing the issues put forth so as to better gain an understanding of the Word of G-d, and I'll admit, this troubles me.

I assume all of us here follow G-d, correct? Albeit, some of us do it differently, but we still follow Him. So shouldn't we ALL desire to get deeper into His Word, to gain better understanding of it? You can't do that by aiming to be right and prove others wrong, nor can you do it by "agreeing to disagree".

Is not the Word important enough TO discuss? Should we not meditate on the Word of G-d day and night (Ps. 1:2)? Should we not learn what G-D wants us to understand, rather than lean on our own understanding (Prov. 3:5)?

Am I in the wrong for thinking any of the above?

 

[giantone]

I see what your saying and your right about much of what you said. I doubt you will find much different things ever in discussion groups in terms of being right and wrong (i'm one of them who is tempted to get into that and has) people do this and you will be tempted to do the same. Sometimes agreeing to disagree is the only option that there is people are unmovable on certain things

I like going here because it can be a challenge and sometimes people ask really good questions and I keep finding out I don't know as much as I think I know. And no, not everyone follows God here, not even in the Church. Having another Bible believing God seeking believer entering this discussion group improves things here.

 

[Nuhen]

I agree completely But that's just the problem - it SHOULDN'T be about being right or wrong, it should be about gaining understanding from the Word of G-d.

 

[MahogonySnail]

I actually follow the God with the o in the middle but that doesn't matter.

I get your point. You can show evidence after evidence but some are just unwilling to listen.

But bible discussions purpose is also to confirm that you are right.

 

[Nuhen]

I actually follow the God with the o in the middle but that doesn't matter.

I get your point. You can show evidence after evidence but some are just unwilling to listen.

But bible discussions purpose is also to confirm that you are right.

True, but disagreements should not turn out as horridly as they do on some of these threads, the tattoo threads specifically coming to mind.

 

[MahogonySnail]

Well I posted evidence before about how violence and tattoos can go hand in hand. Studies done by non-christian researchers mind you have found a link between tattoos and violent behaviour.

 

[Nuhen]

Well I posted evidence before about how violence and tattoos can go hand in hand. Studies done by non-christian researchers mind you have found a link between tattoos and violent behaviour.

Oh, there are a lot of facts behind tattoos that just reinforce the fact that they are sinful. But to followers of G-d, Scripture alone should be sufficient.

 

[cookie39]

I must be blunt; but not to cause any offence unless it is according to the truth. When an issue is strong and matter so much you will find others getting passionate, and even sometimes angry when others are saying something that is contray to what they believe to be the truth.
No one! should agree to wrong; if it is not right it's not right. And when it comes to the Word of God; it is not just a discussion. it is life. the very life we are to live by. from the very mouth of God. God say let there be a witness of two or three and a thing will be established. if someone is saying that the Word means something but everyone disagrees ( three or more) that person should go back and check again and seek God for a revelation; and as you said lean not to their own understanding.
when you are of another religion in a christian site; that mean you are being taught something totaly different and no one will agree with you unless it is someone who is of that same back groud.
I don't and hope not that anyone think they need to "prove" another wrong but if they are wrong, then I hope they tell the truth according to the Word of God in the spirit of love and meekness; but yet boldly as we aught to.
no one want for everyone to disagree with them; but only pride when cloud that person" heart and mind to keep them from seeking why is everyone not agreeing with them. When it comes to the Word of God; if a man should try to prove who is right or wrong; I hope he is doing it to the glory of God ; for he should know there is no greater reward for speaking God's truth; than to lift up the name of Christ Jesus, that he may draw all man to Christ, not himself. Which is vain glory and pride. and that every child of God will see and turn away from him as God commanded. so come with an open heart and be minful of the passions that willl be in every word of a true believer. or I suggest that anyone come preaching any other gospel then what is true they should stay away. they spoke with a boldness the things they were taught; the gospel of Jesus Christ.

 

[cookie39]

and to add I have seven tatoos and I am no where near a violent persons. studies can only speak for the people they studied; not the whole world and that is man's point of veiw, God only said we are not to tatoo ourselves of the dead: just to add. and I know hundreds of people who have tatoos, and never even had a fight or will argue with someone to say the least. with Love the peace of God be you

 

[Nuhen]

and to add I have seven tatoos and I am no where near a violent persons. studies can only speak for the people they studied; not the whole world and that is man's point of veiw, God only said we are not to tatoo ourselves of the dead: just to add. and I know hundreds of people who have tatoos, and never even had a fight or will argue with someone to say the least. with Love the peace of God be you

Let's keep this in the two tattoo threads, hm?

Also, in regards to your post before this one - Not everything that is popular is right, and not everything that is right is popular.

 

[loveschild]

Hi
Who brought the tattoos up here on this thread? I agree with cookie. I have a tat and I'm not evil. I know lots of people with tats and their not evil.
God is looking at the hearts.
There are many on this site who don't follow God at all. They call everything about the word of God a lie. We are to speak the truth.
We are made fun of, persecuted and that is in the bible.
We are to stand firm. Never back down. We shouldn't keep a arguement up because we are told not to cast our pearls before swine.
But we are to try and help people who are being lied to by people who are following teachings of man instead of Gods words.

 

[Nuhen]

Hi
Who brought the tattoos up here on this thread? I agree with cookie. I have a tat and I'm not evil. I know lots of people with tats and their not evil.
God is looking at the hearts.

That may be true, but the Scriptures also tell us that all hearts are deceitful and wicked. So it would be wise to abstain from sin.

 

[loveschild]

Yes thats why we fight the flesh all the time. So sin doesn't rule over us.
We are all just people. We do the best we can and with our Lords help we are victorious.
Pointing out others faults isn't nice.
We are to love each other.
Its up to the power of God to change people.
Lets let God do his job and we can see if there is anyway we can help another person.

 

[Nuhen]

Pointing out others faults isn't nice.

Normally I'd agree, but Scripture makes it quite clear that if our brother/sister is in sin, we are to tell them so.

We are to love each other.

Is it really love if you see your brother or sister living in sin, yet do nothing?

 

[SeekinHIM]

Wow Nuhen,

This is indeed a good discussion, and it is true to assist a brother or sister if they have fallen into sin........(providing they are willing to listen) Good form Nuhen!

I absolutely love discussions from the Word................We need more of them and less of arguing as to who is right and who is wrong.............But be encouraged EVEN in this, THOSE who are arguing, are talking about our LORD, and this is good. Just remember all of the discussions going on in JESUS' day, between the disciples, the Sanhedrin, the Pharisees, and the common folks as well.

There wil always be disagreements, (unfortunately) right wrong issues, until The LORD returns and changes this order of fallen man to redeemed man

What would you like to discuss about Scripture, or topics related to the Word? Where are you in your journey back to G-D?

Let's talk about it.

SeekinHIM

 

[Nuhen]

Wow Nuhen,

This is indeed a good discussion, and it is true to assist a brother or sister if they have fallen into sin........(providing they are willing to listen) Good form Nuhen!

I absolutely love discussions from the Word................We need more of them and less of arguing as to who is right and who is wrong.............But be encouraged EVEN in this, THOSE who are arguing, are talking about our LORD, and this is good. Just remember all of the discussions going on in JESUS' day, between the disciples, the Sanhedrin, the Pharisees, and the common folks as well.

There wil always be disagreements, (unfortunately) right wrong issues, until The LORD returns and changes this order of fallen man to redeemed man

What would you like to discuss about Scripture, or topics related to the Word? Where are you in your journey back to G-D?

Let's talk about it.

SeekinHIM

Thank you Nice to see others who stand where I do.

 

[Harley_Angel]

Pride does seem to be something a lot of people struggle with. A lot of the time it becomes less trying to show someone the Truth for the glory of GOD and more trying to be right for their own glory. Each of us has been guilty of it, but some seem to NEED to be right, no matter what, even if it puts a stumbling block in front of their brother and sister in Christ. It seems a lot of Christians ignore the parts in the Bible talking about bickering and arguing over foolish things or speaking to deaf ears. It's good to be reminded time and again how we are supposed to talk to people.

 

[charisenexcelcis]

I've noticed that in the biggest "arguments" you can see that the two opponents push all the wrong buttons in one another. Then I look at myself. There are a few people that do that to me and I to them. So I choose to avoid them. In a few cases, to keep myself from temptation, I iggie them. I also notice that everyone has a few hot button topics, that tend to set them off. That is true of me also. There is a scripture which I keep in front of me: Micah 6:8. Do justly, love mercy, walk humbly.

 

[sunshine_debbie]

Not to change the subject or be ignorant, but why do so many people on here type God without the o? Like G_d, so you know they are doing it deliberately. Is it some kind of worship thing? Or am I missing something?

Not trying to be rude or anything, just honestly curious.

Debbie

 

[Stand_Up_4_God]

Not to change the subject or be ignorant, but why do so many people on here type God without the o? Like G_d, so you know they are doing it deliberately. Is it some kind of worship thing? Or am I missing something?

Not trying to be rude or anything, just honestly curious.

Debbie

All I know is those whom type God like that, are Jewish. I dunno something about their belief..that's all I know sorry I can't help more.I think they says it's disrespectful to put ''God'' as they consider it taking His name in vain or something, but I could be wrong.