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RAPTURE SCENARIOS AND HOW MANY WILL BE LEFT BEHIND
(MUST READ AND SHARE)

As I was sharing the word of God from Matthew 22:1-14, I was shuttered and stunned to see many scenarios of people who call themselves born again and yet who will eventually, be found in one group or the other as described below; they will all be left behind as the Lord explained UNLESS SERIOUS REPENTANCE IS FILED BEFORE THE LORD. For many are called but few are chosen (Mat. 22:14)
I also saw a vision where many birds (like eagles) were trying to fly but they all had overweight stones tied to their legs with ropes. They were all making the attempt to fly but could not. They would take off from the ground for flight but unfortunately, they would fall back to the ground.
When I saw this, I instructed the Brethren in the group to pray to the Father, Most Powerful God, to change the situation even at the last second; then I heard the Lord say: It does not work like that. It must be a love relationship. If anyone does not love me, how can he come to My kingdom? As you know fully well, I require a clean, pure as crystal and holy bride. Not less than that. No one with a small fox will enter My Kingdom, for I am Holy and My Kingdom is for My Holy Children. Song of Solomon 2: 15 Catch for us the foxes, the little foxes that ruin the vineyards, our vineyards that are in bloom.
So many Christians are still struggling with foxes (Sins) and little foxes (Little sins). This is a dangerous situation for the Church. REPENT AND REMOVE FROM AMONG YOURSELVES THE FOXES AND THE LITTLE FOXES THAT WILL RUIN YOUR RAPTURE READINESS.
During the mid-night prayers, as we stood in the gap and implored God’s mercy and compassion and cried out inrepentance on behalf of the Church, a member of the Team had a vision in which he saw many stars in the heavens. So many of the stars had crosses (X) on them but very few were clean.
If you find yourself in the scenario below, please repent seriously and seek HOLINESS, RIGHTEOUSNESS AND endeavor to be OBEDIENT UNTO THE LORD.
SCENARIOS OF LEFT-BEHINDS:
I. PASTORS AND SERVANTS OF GOD
1. Many Pastors will be engulfed in power struggle; Pastors and deacons and the boards of deacons will be locked up in a fierce power struggle. WHILE THE DEACONS WILL BE CONSPIRING TO REMOVE THE PASTOR FROM THE CHURCH AND REPLACE HIM WITH ANOTHER, THE RAPTURE WILL FIND THEM IN THESE FIGHTS AND THEY WILL BE LEFT BEHIND. James 4:1-2 From whence come wars and fightings among you? Come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members? Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
2. Many Pastors and Servants of God are busy enlarging their coasts to perpetuate their stay on earth. As a result of fights between pastors and servants of God on who should lead, who should be the senior to bring others under their control, the rapture will take place and catch them unawares in these situations and they will be left behind; Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.
3. Many Pastors will be boasting of huge crowds of people attending their churches and they will take the glory for themselves for having won all those souls. In the process, they will end up persecuting others, bickering about each other as to who has how much power and who is a false servant and who is not. At that point their lives will be compromised with self-glory then the rapture will take place and they will be left behind. 2 Timothy 2:23 Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels.
4. Many pastors are involved in deceitful speech, slander and even many are divided and they have not yet asked each other for forgiveness. They will remain in this state until the rapture finds them and they will be left behind. I Peter 3: 10-13For, whoever would love life and see good days must keep his tongue from evil and his lips from deceitful speech. He must turn from evil and do good; he must seek peace and pursue it. For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous and his ears are attentive to their prayer, but the face of the Lord is against those who do evil. Who is going to harm you if you are eager to do good?
5. Many Pastors have married Mammon and are seeking to enlarge their coast everywhere and as a result, they are selling even the anointing oil to get money. These ones will also be left behind. Matthew 6:24 No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.
6. Many Pastors and servants of God are having marital problems and their wives cannot submit or obey, as a result, they have unsolved problems and this is a reason for them to be left behind. Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. Titus 2:5 to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.
II. GENERAL CROWD
1. Many Christians are struggling with rooted demonic problems and it seems hard for them to live a holy, pure and clean life, they will be in the process of seeking help from other brethren to be set free from these chains and sins when the rapture will take place and they, eventually, will be left behind. Thus says the Lord: Tell them to seek help from me straight, tell them to direct their attention to the Word of God and repent urgently.
2. Many Christians have one sin or the other clinging to them (unforgiveness, bitterness, fornication, impurity, lies, sexual lust and unconfessed sins) and while in this state, the rapture will take place and they will be left behind. Song of Solomon 2: 15 Catch for us the foxes, the little foxes that ruin the vineyards, our vineyards that are in bloom.
3. Many Christians will be found driving in the highways with expired car documents when the police will stop them. They will be in the process of lying to the Police to escape from paying the fine. At that very moment, the rapture will take place like lightning and they will be left behind.
4. Many Christians are still in gross and premeditated rebellion and disobedience to the Lord. They will be criticizing others, evaluating and judging the messages being preached out of the pulpits and belittling others when the rapture will take place and they will all be left behind.
III. TO YOUNG PEOPLE:
1. Many young Christians sing in choirs in churches but have double lives, abominable things, filthy sexual impurities, vanity, pride, and all sorts of sins and until now they are still waiting for a day to repent. Before that day arrives the rapture will take place and they will be left behind; Revelation 17:4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries.
2. Many young Christians will be at school and college having fun, loving and talking on Facebook and loving it more than Christ; they will adore technology be full of vanity, depicting adolescent behaviors contrary to the teachings of Christ due to peer-pressure. They will be arguing about worldly things and lying to each other, when the rapture will take place and they will be left behind; I John 1:15-16 Do not love this world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world, you do not have the love of the Father in you. For the world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but are from this world.
3. Many young Christians will be in full-fledged pride parades and glorying in themselves, parading in admiration in front of mirrors admiring their own beauties and trading in the commerce of the great mother of Babylon and Jezebel at the time of the rapture and as a result they will be left behind. Proverbs 16:18 Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall. Revelation 18:2 with a mighty voice he shouted: "Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great! She has become a home for demons and a haunt for every evil spirit, a haunt for every unclean and detestable bird.
IV. TO WIVES AND COUPLES:
1. Many wives show caprices or tricks in their marital homes. These are forms of manipulations or control towards their husbands, and when they will be in the process of doing this, the rapture will take place and they will be left behind.
2. Many wives manage the sexual activity in their marriage; they only have intimacy when they want, and because of this the husbands lust after others. These couples have serious problems consider obeying I Corinthians 7:1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
•LUST OF THE FLESH AND THE EYES: Men think that they must manage and relate with their wives when they want or desire and because of this, they will be left behind. 1Co 7:2 nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
•THE BODY OF THE WO MAN BELONGS TO THE HUSBAND: couples deprive themselves of this blessed relationship and because of this; they are not qualified to be raptured. 1Co 7:3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
•YOU BELONG TO EACH OTHER (WIFE CANNOT SAY NO TO THE HUSBAND NOR EVEN THE HUSBAND OVER HIS OWN BODY): Couples think that they can do whatever they want and because of disobedience to this verse, couples will be left behind. 1Co 7:4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
•DEFRAUD NOT EACH OTHER: couples defraud each other concerning sex and they think they will be raptured; it does not work like that. 1Co 7:5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
Because of the above many will be left behind.
3. Many wives will be in the process of waiting for their husbands to ask forgiveness about situations that arose in their marital homes; while considering talking things over, the rapture will take place and they will have no time to neither ask forgiveness nor even talk things over.
4. Couples with marital problems:
•FINANCIAL POBLEMS: The wife has a job and is well paid and she feels and thinks that she is independent and therefore the husband should not dictate or give rules in the house, so she is overly proud and imposing her rules in the house;
•PROBLEMS OF UNSUBMISSIVENESS OF THE WIFE and Husband trying to impose himself as the man in the house;
The will be at a Pastoral counseling in the Church and there will be many others waiting to receive counseling when the Rapture will take place and all of them will be left behind.
5. Many engaged Christians (Fiancée hood) will be in the process of visiting each other and caressing and kissing to satisfy the lust of their flesh when all of a sudden, like lightening, the rapture will take place and they will be left behind.
This is very serious brethren!!!!!!! Change your ways and start living a Holy and pure Life. The Lord is calling for serious, unadulterated and pure dedication in order to walk with Him in Holiness and obedience.
God bless you,The Postman of the Lord, Bro. Augusto
 

crossnote

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MT 22 has nothing to do with the rapture.
It is a parable of warning to that generation of Jews that they are rejecting their Messiah and those invited but did not come to the wedding will suffer, but God will still go to the highways and byways to gather in guests (Gentiles).
 

p_rehbein

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yeah............lots better Scriptures 'bout the "rapture."
 
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JesusistheChrist

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yeah............lots better Scriptures 'bout the "rapture."
IF by "the rapture" you or anybody else means the alleged "pre-tribulation rapture", then there's not a single verse in the entire Bible which teaches the same. IF, however, by "the rapture" you're referring to the second AND FINAL coming of Christ, then there's plenty in the Bible to support the same.

Incidentally (and I'm speaking to the OP), those who are "left behind" are THE RIGHTEOUS and NOT the UNrighteous. Yes, according to Jesus, it is THE WICKED who are "taken away".
 

Agricola

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Rapture ready is simply being born again and following Christ, thats all. When rapture happens it will happen. Simple really.
 

john832

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IF by "the rapture" you or anybody else means the alleged "pre-tribulation rapture", then there's not a single verse in the entire Bible which teaches the same. IF, however, by "the rapture" you're referring to the second AND FINAL coming of Christ, then there's plenty in the Bible to support the same.

Incidentally (and I'm speaking to the OP), those who are "left behind" are THE RIGHTEOUS and NOT the UNrighteous. Yes, according to Jesus, it is THE WICKED who are "taken away".
I prefer the resurrection (so did Paul, I Cor 15) since the word resurrection does not imply or has not been misconstrued as some "secret" event that occurs prior to the Tribulation. The church is NOT removed from the earth during the Tribulation but rather it is protected in a place of safety.

The "secret rapture" was originally congealed and taught by Francisco Ribera in the mid 1500's AD and then popularized by John Nelson Darby in/around 1830AD.
 
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JesusistheChrist

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I prefer the resurrection (so did Paul, I Cor 15) since the word resurrection does not imply or has not been misconstrued as some "secret" event that occurs prior to the Tribulation. The church is NOT removed from the earth during the Tribulation but rather it is protected in a place of safety.

The "secret rapture" was originally congealed and taught by Francisco Ribera in the mid 1500's AD and then popularized by John Nelson Darby in/around 1830AD.
At the same time, however, the word "resurrection" implies being raised from the dead, but there will be some saints who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord who will merely be "changed" and not really "resurrected".

In any case, I don't believe in any sort of "secret rapture".
 

john832

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At the same time, however, the word "resurrection" implies being raised from the dead, but there will be some saints who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord who will merely be "changed" and not really "resurrected".

In any case, I don't believe in any sort of "secret rapture".
You are correct about this...

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

1Co 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1Co 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Paul apparently thought when writing this that the return was very near. Some of his later writings show that he began to understand it was further down the road.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

I am assuming a certain amount of reader sophistication here and will not explain sleeping.
 
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I agree with those who question this "secret rapture", mainly doctrine of fundamentalists and evangelicals, which is surprising when you consider it is a very gnostic belief. We have a secret special understanding of God that you other christians do not have, and because we have this secret knowledge we are going to be saved in a special way while the rest of you will suffer tribulation. Far to gnostic for me to take to heart.

Christ said the entire creation will witness his reappearing, I will believe the Lord's teaching over that of Gnostics.

just a thought.
 

p_rehbein

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IF by "the rapture" you or anybody else means the alleged "pre-tribulation rapture", then there's not a single verse in the entire Bible which teaches the same. IF, however, by "the rapture" you're referring to the second AND FINAL coming of Christ, then there's plenty in the Bible to support the same.

Incidentally (and I'm speaking to the OP), those who are "left behind" are THE RIGHTEOUS and NOT the UNrighteous. Yes, according to Jesus, it is THE WICKED who are "taken away".
We shall agree to disagree on this one.............. :) no worries........... sure we disagree on more than this one point.

Thanks for you sharing your understanding of Scripture though......
 

my_adonai_

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well as you have chosen not to believe so you will reap the rewards of that... be blessed
 
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I agree with those who question this "secret rapture", mainly doctrine of fundamentalists and evangelicals, which is surprising when you consider it is a very gnostic belief. We have a secret special understanding of God that you other christians do not have, and because we have this secret knowledge we are going to be saved in a special way while the rest of you will suffer tribulation. Far to gnostic for me to take to heart.

Christ said the entire creation will witness his reappearing, I will believe the Lord's teaching over that of Gnostics.

just a thought.
Sounds like the garbage that Hagee spews
 
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JesusistheChrist

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well as you have chosen not to believe so you will reap the rewards of that... be blessed
If you're referring to me, then I always choose not to believe unscriptural nonsense like the alleged "pre-tribulation rapture" which isn't taught anywhere in the Bible.
 

PlainWord

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Christ warned us specifically to be prepared to go through the Tribulation. HE TOLD US THAT THE ELECT WILL GO THROUGH IT. He never said He was returning before the Tribulation. After all, it is Satan's tribulation, Satan's persecution and killing of believers and it has started happening in the middle east to Christians there. Nowhere are we told that the Tribulation is of God. God's wrath comes after the Tribulation and is in response to it.
 

DiscipleDave

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RAPTURE SCENARIOS AND HOW MANY WILL BE LEFT BEHIND
(MUST READ AND SHARE)

As I was sharing the word of God from Matthew 22:1-14, I was shuttered and stunned to see many scenarios of people who call themselves born again and yet who will eventually, be found in one group or the other as described below; they will all be left behind as the Lord explained UNLESS SERIOUS REPENTANCE IS FILED BEFORE THE LORD. For many are called but few are chosen (Mat. 22:14)
I also saw a vision where many birds (like eagles) were trying to fly but they all had overweight stones tied to their legs with ropes. They were all making the attempt to fly but could not. They would take off from the ground for flight but unfortunately, they would fall back to the ground.
When I saw this, I instructed the Brethren in the group to pray to the Father, Most Powerful God, to change the situation even at the last second; then I heard the Lord say: It does not work like that. It must be a love relationship. If anyone does not love me, how can he come to My kingdom? As you know fully well, I require a clean, pure as crystal and holy bride. Not less than that. No one with a small fox will enter My Kingdom, for I am Holy and My Kingdom is for My Holy Children. Song of Solomon 2: 15 Catch for us the foxes, the little foxes that ruin the vineyards, our vineyards that are in bloom.
So many Christians are still struggling with foxes (Sins) and little foxes (Little sins). This is a dangerous situation for the Church. REPENT AND REMOVE FROM AMONG YOURSELVES THE FOXES AND THE LITTLE FOXES THAT WILL RUIN YOUR RAPTURE READINESS.
During the mid-night prayers, as we stood in the gap and implored God’s mercy and compassion and cried out inrepentance on behalf of the Church, a member of the Team had a vision in which he saw many stars in the heavens. So many of the stars had crosses (X) on them but very few were clean.
If you find yourself in the scenario below, please repent seriously and seek HOLINESS, RIGHTEOUSNESS AND endeavor to be OBEDIENT UNTO THE LORD.
SCENARIOS OF LEFT-BEHINDS:
I. PASTORS AND SERVANTS OF GOD
1. Many Pastors will be engulfed in power struggle; Pastors and deacons and the boards of deacons will be locked up in a fierce power struggle. WHILE THE DEACONS WILL BE CONSPIRING TO REMOVE THE PASTOR FROM THE CHURCH AND REPLACE HIM WITH ANOTHER, THE RAPTURE WILL FIND THEM IN THESE FIGHTS AND THEY WILL BE LEFT BEHIND. James 4:1-2 From whence come wars and fightings among you? Come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members? Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
2. Many Pastors and Servants of God are busy enlarging their coasts to perpetuate their stay on earth. As a result of fights between pastors and servants of God on who should lead, who should be the senior to bring others under their control, the rapture will take place and catch them unawares in these situations and they will be left behind; Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.
3. Many Pastors will be boasting of huge crowds of people attending their churches and they will take the glory for themselves for having won all those souls. In the process, they will end up persecuting others, bickering about each other as to who has how much power and who is a false servant and who is not. At that point their lives will be compromised with self-glory then the rapture will take place and they will be left behind. 2 Timothy 2:23 Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels.
4. Many pastors are involved in deceitful speech, slander and even many are divided and they have not yet asked each other for forgiveness. They will remain in this state until the rapture finds them and they will be left behind. I Peter 3: 10-13For, whoever would love life and see good days must keep his tongue from evil and his lips from deceitful speech. He must turn from evil and do good; he must seek peace and pursue it. For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous and his ears are attentive to their prayer, but the face of the Lord is against those who do evil. Who is going to harm you if you are eager to do good?
5. Many Pastors have married Mammon and are seeking to enlarge their coast everywhere and as a result, they are selling even the anointing oil to get money. These ones will also be left behind. Matthew 6:24 No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.
6. Many Pastors and servants of God are having marital problems and their wives cannot submit or obey, as a result, they have unsolved problems and this is a reason for them to be left behind. Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. Titus 2:5 to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.
II. GENERAL CROWD
1. Many Christians are struggling with rooted demonic problems and it seems hard for them to live a holy, pure and clean life, they will be in the process of seeking help from other brethren to be set free from these chains and sins when the rapture will take place and they, eventually, will be left behind. Thus says the Lord: Tell them to seek help from me straight, tell them to direct their attention to the Word of God and repent urgently.
2. Many Christians have one sin or the other clinging to them (unforgiveness, bitterness, fornication, impurity, lies, sexual lust and unconfessed sins) and while in this state, the rapture will take place and they will be left behind. Song of Solomon 2: 15 Catch for us the foxes, the little foxes that ruin the vineyards, our vineyards that are in bloom.
3. Many Christians will be found driving in the highways with expired car documents when the police will stop them. They will be in the process of lying to the Police to escape from paying the fine. At that very moment, the rapture will take place like lightning and they will be left behind.
4. Many Christians are still in gross and premeditated rebellion and disobedience to the Lord. They will be criticizing others, evaluating and judging the messages being preached out of the pulpits and belittling others when the rapture will take place and they will all be left behind.
III. TO YOUNG PEOPLE:
1. Many young Christians sing in choirs in churches but have double lives, abominable things, filthy sexual impurities, vanity, pride, and all sorts of sins and until now they are still waiting for a day to repent. Before that day arrives the rapture will take place and they will be left behind; Revelation 17:4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries.
2. Many young Christians will be at school and college having fun, loving and talking on Facebook and loving it more than Christ; they will adore technology be full of vanity, depicting adolescent behaviors contrary to the teachings of Christ due to peer-pressure. They will be arguing about worldly things and lying to each other, when the rapture will take place and they will be left behind; I John 1:15-16 Do not love this world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world, you do not have the love of the Father in you. For the world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but are from this world.
3. Many young Christians will be in full-fledged pride parades and glorying in themselves, parading in admiration in front of mirrors admiring their own beauties and trading in the commerce of the great mother of Babylon and Jezebel at the time of the rapture and as a result they will be left behind. Proverbs 16:18 Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall. Revelation 18:2 with a mighty voice he shouted: "Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great! She has become a home for demons and a haunt for every evil spirit, a haunt for every unclean and detestable bird.
IV. TO WIVES AND COUPLES:
1. Many wives show caprices or tricks in their marital homes. These are forms of manipulations or control towards their husbands, and when they will be in the process of doing this, the rapture will take place and they will be left behind.
2. Many wives manage the sexual activity in their marriage; they only have intimacy when they want, and because of this the husbands lust after others. These couples have serious problems consider obeying I Corinthians 7:1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
•LUST OF THE FLESH AND THE EYES: Men think that they must manage and relate with their wives when they want or desire and because of this, they will be left behind. 1Co 7:2 nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
•THE BODY OF THE WO MAN BELONGS TO THE HUSBAND: couples deprive themselves of this blessed relationship and because of this; they are not qualified to be raptured. 1Co 7:3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
•YOU BELONG TO EACH OTHER (WIFE CANNOT SAY NO TO THE HUSBAND NOR EVEN THE HUSBAND OVER HIS OWN BODY): Couples think that they can do whatever they want and because of disobedience to this verse, couples will be left behind. 1Co 7:4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
•DEFRAUD NOT EACH OTHER: couples defraud each other concerning sex and they think they will be raptured; it does not work like that. 1Co 7:5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
Because of the above many will be left behind.
3. Many wives will be in the process of waiting for their husbands to ask forgiveness about situations that arose in their marital homes; while considering talking things over, the rapture will take place and they will have no time to neither ask forgiveness nor even talk things over.
4. Couples with marital problems:
•FINANCIAL POBLEMS: The wife has a job and is well paid and she feels and thinks that she is independent and therefore the husband should not dictate or give rules in the house, so she is overly proud and imposing her rules in the house;
•PROBLEMS OF UNSUBMISSIVENESS OF THE WIFE and Husband trying to impose himself as the man in the house;
The will be at a Pastoral counseling in the Church and there will be many others waiting to receive counseling when the Rapture will take place and all of them will be left behind.
5. Many engaged Christians (Fiancée hood) will be in the process of visiting each other and caressing and kissing to satisfy the lust of their flesh when all of a sudden, like lightening, the rapture will take place and they will be left behind.
This is very serious brethren!!!!!!! Change your ways and start living a Holy and pure Life. The Lord is calling for serious, unadulterated and pure dedication in order to walk with Him in Holiness and obedience.
God bless you,The Postman of the Lord, Bro. Augusto
i too have had similar visions and dreams. You are not far from the Kingdom of God, i do not say that because you have had visions and dreams, i say that because you teach against sin, which is also what Jesus taught against, the Apostles taught against, prophets of old have taught against, and myself as well.
Many will not heed to any doctrine that teaches to give up sinning.
Very few will actually take that narrow and difficult path, Very few are willing to give up that sin that so easily besets them. They would much rather excuse it, and still think they are Heaven bound. That is far easier than the alternative, you know STOP sinning. As long as satan continues his allusion that it is impossible, then they will NEVER try. If i thought it was impossible to get to Hawaii, why on Earth would i ever try to get to Hawaii, it's impossible, so why try. satan at work there.
Which is BETTER:
A person who thinks it is possible to live sinless and spend the rest of life trying to live sinless.
or
A person who thinks it is impossilbe to live sinless, thereby never trying to cease from them, and continues to live in sins.

It is BETTER to try your whole life to live such, then fail.
Then to never try, and fail automatically.

Those who stand before God on Judgement Day and have tried to live a life Holy and Just and pleasing to God, will get Mercy
Those who stand before God on Judgement Day and have never tried to cease from their wicked sins, but continued to live in sins without ever trying to cease from them, will not have Mercy.

Those who think it is impossible are already LOST. All things are possible with God, ALL THINGS.

^i^ Responding to OP
 

p_rehbein

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The wonderful thing is........when that Eastern sky splits...............I won't be here, so y'all will just have yourselves to argue with...........and, hey, that COULD be a "win - win!" :)
 
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My, my, my.....everybody wants to jump on the rapture bandwagon & totally ignore the sins that are mentioned. I see many of those sins in the church..... but no confession & repentance. I guess it's the same here on CC too.
 

Angela53510

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First, there should be a rule against cut and paste with no source OP's.

Second, there should be a rule against using such a tiny font, and not leaving spaces.

I could not get through the OP, but I saw enough to say, that I am walking with Jesus Christ, and I do NOT believe in a secret rapture.

Thanks to Vernon for the idea of "secret" and gnosticism. That sure sounds right to me! The essence of gnosticism was being secret and only revealed to the initiated. I am not intiated, I am saved by the blood of the Lamb, and every person on this planet has free access to the same knowledge of salvation through Jesus Christ, and the Second Coming.
 

PlainWord

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I prefer the resurrection (so did Paul, I Cor 15) since the word resurrection does not imply or has not been misconstrued as some "secret" event that occurs prior to the Tribulation. The church is NOT removed from the earth during the Tribulation but rather it is protected in a place of safety.

The "secret rapture" was originally congealed and taught by Francisco Ribera in the mid 1500's AD and then popularized by John Nelson Darby in/around 1830AD.
The church is protected during the Tribulation??? Really my friend? I thought you had better insight than that. The church is the subject of the Tribulation, before it and during it. The Tribulation is of Satan.

Rev 12:

[SUP]12 [/SUP]Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”

Notice the "WOE?" Now see it again used here.

Rev 8:

[SUP]13 [/SUP]And I looked, and I heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, “Woe, woe, woe to the inhabitants of the earth, because of the remaining blasts of the trumpet of the three angels who are about to sound!”

Same "WOE" warning given, same group the warning is given to, i.e., the "inhabitants of the earth."

Now let see if we can find the church being persecuted and killed during Satan's Great Tribulation...(Hint: God's wrath comes after Satan's Great Tribulation and is in response to it. Further, God comes like a knight on a white horse, literally and figuratively)

Dan 7:

[SUP]21 [/SUP]“I was watching; and the same horn was making war against the saints, and prevailing against them, [SUP]22 [/SUP]until the Ancient of Days came, and a judgment was made in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came for the saints to possess the kingdom.

Dan 12:

And there shall be a time of trouble,
Such as never was since there was a nation,
Even to that time.
And at that time your people shall be delivered,
Every one who is found written in the book.



Mat 24:

[SUP]9 [/SUP]“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.


2 Thes 1:

[SUP]4 [/SUP]...for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that you endure, [SUP]5 [/SUP]which is manifest evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer; [SUP]6 [/SUP]since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, [SUP]7 [/SUP]and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,

Did you catch that? Patience and faith? Where else is that used? We are to have patience and faith. Do not fall for the Man of Sin, wait for the real savior. Be patient and keep the faith!!

Rev 13:

[SUP]9 [/SUP]If anyone has an ear, let him hear. [SUP]10 [/SUP]He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.


Rev 6:

“How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” [SUP]11 [/SUP]Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed.


Rev 7:

[SUP]9 [/SUP]After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues... So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation.

The church isn't protected my friend, only one of seven churches avoid the "testing/tribulation that shall come upon the world.
 
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WheresEnoch

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Let's just all prepare our hearts and minds to live and die as Christ during the tribulation. Let us be conformed to the love of Christ so that we can repay evil with good, curses with blessings and be prepared to give the reason for our joy at any moment. Personally, I wish it would happen sooner than later as I am tired of this fallen world. However there is still much work to be done and many who are not ready. I thank the Lord for His perfect timing.

Turn from all your sin you who call yourselves brothers and sisters!