What law is written on the heart?
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You said "Let me help you out here. No Christian minister I have ever known of heard of would believe a person could be a Christian if they rejected the law of God as a reprove of sin, and thus rejected God's writing of it on their heart. I am sure no SDA minister would believe it either."
IN this you have answered correctly.
IN this you have answered correctly.
IN this you are wrong.
Love does not replace the law it completes it.
You who say "Your own verse that you quoted shows you," do you read your own?
You quoted Romans 13 but did you read it?
, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
what is Paul saying is briefly comprehended/summerised in love?
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment,
So by your own verse we can see that love is not a change of the law but rather a summery of the law. Now tell me If I asked you to summerise a book and you gave me something that was different from the book would I accept it? no that is not what a summery is for. it should communicate the book in brief.
Come on now you need to be consistent.
For even this is so in the Old testament as Paul knows.
Lev 19:18 Thou shalt not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people; but thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself: I am Jehovah.
So then tell me according to the verse you quoted, can you love and break any of these:
Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not covet, and if there be any other commandment, it is summed up in this word, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
No because to break them is to not love your neighbor. Therefor to love your neighbor is to keep the commandments of God. this lines up with the OP.
you said "The 10 commandments are designed for a reason. They show sin. That is why Paul called them the law of sin and death. That is why Paul said the Letter is unto Death but the Spirit is unto Life."
But I have already showed this to be error by the scripture. You have not yet learned the difference between the 10 commandments on stone and the same commandments on the heart. one brings death the other life. One is captivity the other the law of liberty.
There was a certain man who was an inventor and loved to make all manner of things. but His crowning creation was a Robot in His own image. The first AI ever created with the ability to learn and make its own decisions. But one day a man who hated the inventor came and tricked the Robot into receiving bad programming.
The inventor loved His creation so He wrote out a program that reflected His image, For only those with His image could remain functioning. A law of right and good and holiness. The Robot saw the program and realized that He was not like that program and because He was not like that program he was condemned to be decommissioned.
But then He heard that the inventor was merciful and that He would help him if he trusted Him. So The Robot decided to trust the inventor and acknowledged that He was unlike the program that he read and deserved to be decommissioned. But the Inventor said, my creation come here and the inventor put that very program into the robot and it corrected all the errors and suddenly that robot was programmed by that very thing that once condemned. He was no longer a slave to condemnation.
So it is with those who are saved, The law on stone only shows we fall short and deserve death, but when that same law is placed in our heart, what was death becomes life to us through He who created us, the Lord Jesus.
friend listen to your own words:
"The power of sin is what? The Law. One big work the Lord Jesus Christ does is remove sin from our hearts. But if we turn back to the law to try and work at it, the law has no choice but to show us our sin."
you say sin is removed from the heart, sin is by biblical definition breaking the law 1 John 3:4. so if breaking the law/sin is removed what is left? keeping it you have no other option.
If you read them and they continue to point to your sin then you have not the law on your heart friend. you are yet to know freedom and rest in Christ.
you said "There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. The 10 commandments don't ever stop being the ministration of condemnation. "
If the law is on your heart then you are no longer breaking it cause the Lord causes you to keep them. Ez 36:26,27. So does the law condemn those who keep it?
Please open your eyes and you might find something in Jesus that you have not yet found.
I have backed my position with the word in the OP and yet still now one can refute it but rather tries to make scripture contradict itself. SO then I show that it does not and that what you bring lines up but you still refuse to see.
Love does not replace the law it completes it.
You who say "Your own verse that you quoted shows you," do you read your own?
You quoted Romans 13 but did you read it?
, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
what is Paul saying is briefly comprehended/summerised in love?
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment,
So by your own verse we can see that love is not a change of the law but rather a summery of the law. Now tell me If I asked you to summerise a book and you gave me something that was different from the book would I accept it? no that is not what a summery is for. it should communicate the book in brief.
Come on now you need to be consistent.
For even this is so in the Old testament as Paul knows.
Lev 19:18 Thou shalt not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people; but thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself: I am Jehovah.
So then tell me according to the verse you quoted, can you love and break any of these:
Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not covet, and if there be any other commandment, it is summed up in this word, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
No because to break them is to not love your neighbor. Therefor to love your neighbor is to keep the commandments of God. this lines up with the OP.
you said "The 10 commandments are designed for a reason. They show sin. That is why Paul called them the law of sin and death. That is why Paul said the Letter is unto Death but the Spirit is unto Life."
But I have already showed this to be error by the scripture. You have not yet learned the difference between the 10 commandments on stone and the same commandments on the heart. one brings death the other life. One is captivity the other the law of liberty.
There was a certain man who was an inventor and loved to make all manner of things. but His crowning creation was a Robot in His own image. The first AI ever created with the ability to learn and make its own decisions. But one day a man who hated the inventor came and tricked the Robot into receiving bad programming.
The inventor loved His creation so He wrote out a program that reflected His image, For only those with His image could remain functioning. A law of right and good and holiness. The Robot saw the program and realized that He was not like that program and because He was not like that program he was condemned to be decommissioned.
But then He heard that the inventor was merciful and that He would help him if he trusted Him. So The Robot decided to trust the inventor and acknowledged that He was unlike the program that he read and deserved to be decommissioned. But the Inventor said, my creation come here and the inventor put that very program into the robot and it corrected all the errors and suddenly that robot was programmed by that very thing that once condemned. He was no longer a slave to condemnation.
So it is with those who are saved, The law on stone only shows we fall short and deserve death, but when that same law is placed in our heart, what was death becomes life to us through He who created us, the Lord Jesus.
friend listen to your own words:
"The power of sin is what? The Law. One big work the Lord Jesus Christ does is remove sin from our hearts. But if we turn back to the law to try and work at it, the law has no choice but to show us our sin."
you say sin is removed from the heart, sin is by biblical definition breaking the law 1 John 3:4. so if breaking the law/sin is removed what is left? keeping it you have no other option.
If you read them and they continue to point to your sin then you have not the law on your heart friend. you are yet to know freedom and rest in Christ.
you said "There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. The 10 commandments don't ever stop being the ministration of condemnation. "
If the law is on your heart then you are no longer breaking it cause the Lord causes you to keep them. Ez 36:26,27. So does the law condemn those who keep it?
Please open your eyes and you might find something in Jesus that you have not yet found.
I have backed my position with the word in the OP and yet still now one can refute it but rather tries to make scripture contradict itself. SO then I show that it does not and that what you bring lines up but you still refuse to see.
why do you assume I do not know these things? but rather what does the word say?
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him;
1Jn 5:2 Hereby we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and do his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him;
1Jn 5:2 Hereby we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and do his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
I didn't say replace. I said fulfill. We are given the fulfillment of the law, rest, by the Lord Jesus Christ.
Romans 3:19-20
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Do you just not understand these verses or did you forget about them?
Sin includes the breaking of the law. Whatever is not of faith is sin.
So then whatever is not of faith also breaks Gods Law.
I have rest in Christ. Because I know by my works I am not perfect. I rest in His Work in me. If He doesn't do the work then the work is not going to get done.
Anytime we read the 10 commandments we must come to the conclusion that the law demands perfection. The Lord Jesus summarizes the law in this way.
Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
If I look to the law, no matter how good I think I may be doing, no matter how spiritual and loving I may feel, I never, ever feel like I have come even close to being perfect like my Father in Heaven is perfect.
Whenever I look to the 10 commandments I always see that I fall short of that mark. And that is the point. The 10 commandments were designed to bring you to knowledge of your sin so you would know you need a saviour.
You don't have to break the 10 commandments for them to condemn you. All you have to do is fall short of its demand.
But when we look to our Saviour Jesus Christ we can look away from our work, which falls short, and see His Work which is perfect.
Galatians 3:10-14
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
The Holy Spirit will not cause us to break the 10 commandments. The Holy Spirit causes us to understand them.
Scripture doesn't contradict itself, it contradicts you.
Romans 3:19-20
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Do you just not understand these verses or did you forget about them?
Sin includes the breaking of the law. Whatever is not of faith is sin.
So then whatever is not of faith also breaks Gods Law.
I have rest in Christ. Because I know by my works I am not perfect. I rest in His Work in me. If He doesn't do the work then the work is not going to get done.
Anytime we read the 10 commandments we must come to the conclusion that the law demands perfection. The Lord Jesus summarizes the law in this way.
Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
If I look to the law, no matter how good I think I may be doing, no matter how spiritual and loving I may feel, I never, ever feel like I have come even close to being perfect like my Father in Heaven is perfect.
Whenever I look to the 10 commandments I always see that I fall short of that mark. And that is the point. The 10 commandments were designed to bring you to knowledge of your sin so you would know you need a saviour.
You don't have to break the 10 commandments for them to condemn you. All you have to do is fall short of its demand.
But when we look to our Saviour Jesus Christ we can look away from our work, which falls short, and see His Work which is perfect.
Galatians 3:10-14
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
The Holy Spirit will not cause us to break the 10 commandments. The Holy Spirit causes us to understand them.
Scripture doesn't contradict itself, it contradicts you.
Can a man rest from works if He still sins/works of the flesh?
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
wages are paid to workers. you speak much of the works of the law but little of overcoming sin/works of the flesh.
Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name JESUS; for it is he that shall save his people from their sins.
your problem is you are too self focused. your whole argument hinges on your experience rather than Gods word.
All of you bring it back to you falling short, self, self, self. enough of self more of Jesus.
and when we claim any sort of victory in Christ you try to aim things at us. enough about us more about Jesus.
The law is death to the flesh but life in the spirit. why can't you get that? oh you know the words but the meaning is far from you.
This shows the weakness of your arguments every time.
If I say I am having victory you do not go to the word you start trying to pull me down to your experience.
when I say you can have that victory you do not go to the word you speak of your failures.
Its all about you and nothing about Jesus in these discussions.
Faithless generation. When will you believe that Christ has freed you from the power of sin. if you sin you are not free but a slave to sin.
don't you know who you obey is who you serve?
You admit you are divided constantly that you serve the flesh, no mane can serve two masters. Let self die and Christ live as He should.
For even now you read my words an disregard them because of the weakness of your flesh.
For if I say I am not overcoming then you will say see then you must be wrong about overcoming.
but if I say I am overcoming in Christ you say he is a liar.
and all this because your experience is one of failure. I am trying to show you form the word the way to succeed as God has shown me. why do you reject so great a salvation?
Why is it so hard for you to believe? Does your failure make Gods promises void? no God forbid. Gods promises are for truth to all those who believe.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
wages are paid to workers. you speak much of the works of the law but little of overcoming sin/works of the flesh.
Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name JESUS; for it is he that shall save his people from their sins.
your problem is you are too self focused. your whole argument hinges on your experience rather than Gods word.
All of you bring it back to you falling short, self, self, self. enough of self more of Jesus.
and when we claim any sort of victory in Christ you try to aim things at us. enough about us more about Jesus.
The law is death to the flesh but life in the spirit. why can't you get that? oh you know the words but the meaning is far from you.
This shows the weakness of your arguments every time.
If I say I am having victory you do not go to the word you start trying to pull me down to your experience.
when I say you can have that victory you do not go to the word you speak of your failures.
Its all about you and nothing about Jesus in these discussions.
Faithless generation. When will you believe that Christ has freed you from the power of sin. if you sin you are not free but a slave to sin.
don't you know who you obey is who you serve?
You admit you are divided constantly that you serve the flesh, no mane can serve two masters. Let self die and Christ live as He should.
For even now you read my words an disregard them because of the weakness of your flesh.
For if I say I am not overcoming then you will say see then you must be wrong about overcoming.
but if I say I am overcoming in Christ you say he is a liar.
and all this because your experience is one of failure. I am trying to show you form the word the way to succeed as God has shown me. why do you reject so great a salvation?
Why is it so hard for you to believe? Does your failure make Gods promises void? no God forbid. Gods promises are for truth to all those who believe.
Because we have not been given the true pointing, it is not pronounca
ble.
יְהוָ֔ה The yod is pointed with a shvah creating a slurred
sound connected to the next syllable.
The yod is NOT pointed with a patah to create a yah!
The first he is unpointed making it unpronounceable.
The vahv is pointed with a qamats giving it the sound of vaw or waw if you prefer
The second he is unpointed making it unpronounceable or silent
The zaq qatan over the vahv indicates that the word (name) is to be sung:
ble.
יְהוָ֔ה The yod is pointed with a shvah creating a slurred
sound connected to the next syllable.The yod is NOT pointed with a patah to create a yah!
The first he is unpointed making it unpronounceable.
The vahv is pointed with a qamats giving it the sound of vaw or waw if you prefer
The second he is unpointed making it unpronounceable or silent
The zaq qatan over the vahv indicates that the word (name) is to be sung:
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I always see "Yevah," but not being a scholar in Hebrew, in this regard, I follow the given pronuciation with the meaning of the name, fame, notoriety in mind, heart and soul. There are many Hebrew words from the Tanakh which are not knon by any scholar according to teachers from whom I have learn God bess all.ed,.
I honestly believe it is the false assumption that His name is "too holy" to be uttered. My faith has always shouted to me that His name is to be proclaimed amon the nations.Name in Hebrew has the very same connotations as it does in English and other languages. It is not just a label, it iis fame, reknown, notoriaty and more.
I believe Yahweh may be translated as Self Existing, because He is the Only One Who may make this claim. He is the Beginning with and the End. Nothing is that He has not called into existence, while He has always Been, transitively.
His name is Wonderful, Counselor, Prince of Peace, Everlasting Father, Almighty Go, and He is Self-Existing.
He will give us all His name, come the passage from this age to the Kingdom, but until then His titles are all quite valid, for they describe Him, as long as we use them with understanding,. He i`good, amazing. Paise God, amen.
I believe Yahweh may be translated as Self Existing, because He is the Only One Who may make this claim. He is the Beginning with and the End. Nothing is that He has not called into existence, while He has always Been, transitively.
His name is Wonderful, Counselor, Prince of Peace, Everlasting Father, Almighty Go, and He is Self-Existing.
He will give us all His name, come the passage from this age to the Kingdom, but until then His titles are all quite valid, for they describe Him, as long as we use them with understanding,. He i`good, amazing. Paise God, amen.
we'll see if you can change your spots, and actually reply to scripture(in this case scripture that you requested yourself)....
good if you can.
btw, actually, even the following statement of yours contradicts itself, in your own words, and it contradicts what i and others here (on the forum) have watched you do so far, but that aspect will have to wait till later.... or maybe not; maybe you will prove again right here and now what we
have seen and said all along.... that you don't reply to scripture.... (that's the gist of it anyway..... no deep study)
or, perhaps you can actually read and respond to scripture.... then if so we can go the next step... now we'll see...
Luke 11:42 (KJ21)
42 “But woe unto you, Pharisees! For ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God. These ought ye to have done, and not left the other undone.
Luke 11:42 (ASV)
42 But woe unto you Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and every herb, and pass over justice and the love of God: but these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Luke 11:42 (AMP)
42 But woe to you, Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and every [little] herb, but disregard and neglect justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done without leaving the others undone.
Cross references:
A. Luke 11:42 : Lev. 27:30; Mic. 6:8.
Luke 11:42 (BRG)
42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Luke 11:42 (CEB)
42 “How terrible for you Pharisees! You give a tenth of your mint, rue, and garden herbs of all kinds, while neglecting justice and love for God. These you ought to have done without neglecting the others.
Luke 11:42 (CJB)
42 “But woe to you P’rushim! You pay your tithes of mint and rue and every garden herb, but you ignore justice and the love of God. You have an obligation to do these things — but without disregarding the others!
Luke 11:42 (CEV)
42 You Pharisees are in for trouble! You give God a tenth of the spices from your gardens, such as mint and rue. But you cheat people, and you don’t love God. You should be fair and kind to others and still give a tenth to God.
Luke 11:42 (DARBY)
42 But woe unto you, Pharisees, for ye pay tithes of mint and rue and every herb, and pass by the judgment and the love of God: these ye ought to have done, and not have left those aside.
Luke 11:42 (DLNT) 42 But woe to you Pharisees, because you are giving-a-tenth-of the mint and the rue and every garden-plant, and are disregarding the justice and the love of God. But you ought-to-have done these things, and not be slackening those things.
good if you can.
btw, actually, even the following statement of yours contradicts itself, in your own words, and it contradicts what i and others here (on the forum) have watched you do so far, but that aspect will have to wait till later.... or maybe not; maybe you will prove again right here and now what we
have seen and said all along.... that you don't reply to scripture.... (that's the gist of it anyway..... no deep study)
or, perhaps you can actually read and respond to scripture.... then if so we can go the next step... now we'll see...
Luke 11:42 (KJ21)
42 “But woe unto you, Pharisees! For ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God. These ought ye to have done, and not left the other undone.
Luke 11:42 (ASV)
42 But woe unto you Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and every herb, and pass over justice and the love of God: but these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Luke 11:42 (AMP)
42 But woe to you, Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and every [little] herb, but disregard and neglect justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done without leaving the others undone.
Cross references:
A. Luke 11:42 : Lev. 27:30; Mic. 6:8.
Luke 11:42 (BRG)
42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Luke 11:42 (CEB)
42 “How terrible for you Pharisees! You give a tenth of your mint, rue, and garden herbs of all kinds, while neglecting justice and love for God. These you ought to have done without neglecting the others.
Luke 11:42 (CJB)
42 “But woe to you P’rushim! You pay your tithes of mint and rue and every garden herb, but you ignore justice and the love of God. You have an obligation to do these things — but without disregarding the others!
Luke 11:42 (CEV)
42 You Pharisees are in for trouble! You give God a tenth of the spices from your gardens, such as mint and rue. But you cheat people, and you don’t love God. You should be fair and kind to others and still give a tenth to God.
Luke 11:42 (DARBY)
42 But woe unto you, Pharisees, for ye pay tithes of mint and rue and every herb, and pass by the judgment and the love of God: these ye ought to have done, and not have left those aside.
Luke 11:42 (DLNT) 42 But woe to you Pharisees, because you are giving-a-tenth-of the mint and the rue and every garden-plant, and are disregarding the justice and the love of God. But you ought-to-have done these things, and not be slackening those things.
I know that this will raise a great deal of opposition; but it needs to be said:
The covenant of Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is restated in Hebrews Chapter8 has not yet been completely implemented!
It is at least in part still a future promise.
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
1) I will put my law in their inward parts If the Law were already written on our hearts we would no longer be sinning and repenting.
2) And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD We are still called to evangelize and disciple the lost
The covenant in its completion will be with the house of Israel when Zec 12:10-13:2 are fulfilled; and the Church will be included.
The partial fulfillment is in for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. which was granted to believers as a result of Jesus' sacrifice on the cross.
The covenant of Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is restated in Hebrews Chapter8 has not yet been completely implemented!
It is at least in part still a future promise.
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
1) I will put my law in their inward parts If the Law were already written on our hearts we would no longer be sinning and repenting.
2) And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD We are still called to evangelize and disciple the lost
The covenant in its completion will be with the house of Israel when Zec 12:10-13:2 are fulfilled; and the Church will be included.
The partial fulfillment is in for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. which was granted to believers as a result of Jesus' sacrifice on the cross.
while I do not totally agree with this at least not yet. I find this insightful particularly this point:
"1) I will put my law in their inward parts If the Law were already written on our hearts we would no longer be sinning and repenting."
I agree with this totally. Only difference is I believe we can have it now.
But anyhow I am going to stew on the rest of what you wrote. cheers
Therefore Gotime, as you made those comments concerning me as I refuse to specifically observe a Satarday Sabbath, you are saying, anyone on cc for example who has read your posts(and cannot therefore be in ignorance as you describe it) and refuses to specifically observe a Saturday Sabbath cannot be a Christian. That is unless your view differs from all the other ministers.
This is new from you, I had been under the impression you did, as do the sda officially believe, people in other denominations who do not set specifically observe a Saturday Sabbath can be/are Christians. I assume you belong to an extreme branch of the organisation, and are not reflective of mainstream belief
This is new from you, I had been under the impression you did, as do the sda officially believe, people in other denominations who do not set specifically observe a Saturday Sabbath can be/are Christians. I assume you belong to an extreme branch of the organisation, and are not reflective of mainstream belief
While I would normally agree with much of what you write, and understand in part where you are coming from, the writer of Hebrews links Christ's death and sacrifice with the following:
Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. [SUP]12 [/SUP]But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, [SUP]13 [/SUP]and since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool. [SUP]14 [/SUP]For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.[SUP]15 [/SUP]The Holy Spirit also testifies to us about this. First he says:
[SUP]16 [/SUP]“This is the covenant I will make with them
after that time, says the Lord.
I will put my laws in their hearts,
and I will write them on their minds.”[SUP][b][/SUP]
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Then he adds:
“Their sins and lawless acts
I will remember no more
Heb 10:9-16
Both parts are included, not just one.
If the law God desires a person to keep is not written on their mind and placed on their heart, they have a licence to sin, for their sins and lawless deeds will be remembered no more
Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. [SUP]12 [/SUP]But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, [SUP]13 [/SUP]and since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool. [SUP]14 [/SUP]For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.[SUP]15 [/SUP]The Holy Spirit also testifies to us about this. First he says:
[SUP]16 [/SUP]“This is the covenant I will make with them
after that time, says the Lord.
I will put my laws in their hearts,
and I will write them on their minds.”[SUP][b][/SUP]
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Then he adds:
“Their sins and lawless acts
I will remember no more
Heb 10:9-16
Both parts are included, not just one.
If the law God desires a person to keep is not written on their mind and placed on their heart, they have a licence to sin, for their sins and lawless deeds will be remembered no more