What law is written on the heart?
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I have been pondering this discussion and the present and or future application of the laws of God being written upon the heart of flesh as opposed to a heart of stone......this is a question based upon the fact that there seems to be validity to both lines of thought.....
Could it not be both a present and future from this standpoint.....?
A) For a lost man it would yet be a future application and ongoing process from the moment of belief..
B) For a saved man it would be a present context with an ongoing future application...
We know that it takes years and years of maturity, growth, failures and successes for a child of God to mature and come online as a mature, complete servant of God....Not saying this is fully what I believe, but does seem to make some sense.....There is a definite reference back to the O.T. but there is also a future application when applied to all the saints who would come on line AFTER this was written in the N.T........also seems to be a complete fulfillment in a yet future date........just a few points to ponder and like I said....not necessarily what I believe just some thoughts to ponder....
Could it not be both a present and future from this standpoint.....?
A) For a lost man it would yet be a future application and ongoing process from the moment of belief..
B) For a saved man it would be a present context with an ongoing future application...
We know that it takes years and years of maturity, growth, failures and successes for a child of God to mature and come online as a mature, complete servant of God....Not saying this is fully what I believe, but does seem to make some sense.....There is a definite reference back to the O.T. but there is also a future application when applied to all the saints who would come on line AFTER this was written in the N.T........also seems to be a complete fulfillment in a yet future date........just a few points to ponder and like I said....not necessarily what I believe just some thoughts to ponder....
Galatians 5 seems to agree with your view that their is a future perfecting or a seed that has yet to grow fully.
Galatians 5:5-6
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
The Spirit is what perfects us. But if it were fully grown, or if we were fully perfected we wouldn't be waiting for the hope of Righteousness. We would be perfectly righteous.
Galatians 5:5-6
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
The Spirit is what perfects us. But if it were fully grown, or if we were fully perfected we wouldn't be waiting for the hope of Righteousness. We would be perfectly righteous.
I don't think that God would object to our saying His name if we knew how.
I don't think God is very offended when His name is mispronounced.
I do think that it is more respectful to translate His name 'I Am Always' than to knowingly mispronounce it.
We can even learn to sing the translation according to its cantilation. in the key of b-flat
I don't think God is very offended when His name is mispronounced.
I do think that it is more respectful to translate His name 'I Am Always' than to knowingly mispronounce it.
We can even learn to sing the translation according to its cantilation. in the key of b-flat
The few times in my life when God has spoken to me, there were no words; the message was purely in the Holy Spirit. He is not concerned about our education in this age, nor about what accent we put on words.
I have called Him, "You are Who You are," and He has responded.
Our Father does no give a thought to any of His children speaking to Him with any particular name as long as the heart is right, and the soul is a willing soul.
How many times I have`shared certain linguistic knowledge of the names of God in Hebrew only to be met by total resistence and even anti-semetic attitudes of family members whom I suppose are real and false.
When I came to Yahweh, was after a prayer where I pleaded with "You are Who You are." The instant He filled me with His Holy Spirit, I ran to the Illini Union on campus and encounted my very good friend, Shelly, a Jew. He asked me, "Jack, what has happened to you." I replied, "God's spirit came into me, you God, Yahweh."
From my own blessed experience in study, being taught, meditating and prayer, I am quite certain our Father does not care how any name is pronounced relating to Him directly as long as the love and respect and honor are there.
People tend to run away from things they cannot get a handle upon when they should do as Mary would do, keep it in their hearts until the understanding or reasonaable rejection comes to them.
I know Jehova is wrong; it is obvious knowing the pronuciation key of Hebrew with any accent, yet when it is used, I know it is in reference to the God. People argue about Yahweh and Yahve when they know of Whom each is speaking. It wastes a lot of time. I have learned also to waste a lot of time, unhappily.
We are being perfected, even our language will be a pure language come the end of this age and we are given a pure language for all to know God and call Him by one name. It will most likely be in the Spirit, and not the language of Heber. Whatever the language will be, we will know then not to wast time, if there is such a thing, come His glorious and beautiful day.
God bless all in Jesus Christ, or do you call Him Yehsua?+++
I have called Him, "You are Who You are," and He has responded.
Our Father does no give a thought to any of His children speaking to Him with any particular name as long as the heart is right, and the soul is a willing soul.
How many times I have`shared certain linguistic knowledge of the names of God in Hebrew only to be met by total resistence and even anti-semetic attitudes of family members whom I suppose are real and false.
When I came to Yahweh, was after a prayer where I pleaded with "You are Who You are." The instant He filled me with His Holy Spirit, I ran to the Illini Union on campus and encounted my very good friend, Shelly, a Jew. He asked me, "Jack, what has happened to you." I replied, "God's spirit came into me, you God, Yahweh."
From my own blessed experience in study, being taught, meditating and prayer, I am quite certain our Father does not care how any name is pronounced relating to Him directly as long as the love and respect and honor are there.
People tend to run away from things they cannot get a handle upon when they should do as Mary would do, keep it in their hearts until the understanding or reasonaable rejection comes to them.
I know Jehova is wrong; it is obvious knowing the pronuciation key of Hebrew with any accent, yet when it is used, I know it is in reference to the God. People argue about Yahweh and Yahve when they know of Whom each is speaking. It wastes a lot of time. I have learned also to waste a lot of time, unhappily.
We are being perfected, even our language will be a pure language come the end of this age and we are given a pure language for all to know God and call Him by one name. It will most likely be in the Spirit, and not the language of Heber. Whatever the language will be, we will know then not to wast time, if there is such a thing, come His glorious and beautiful day.
God bless all in Jesus Christ, or do you call Him Yehsua?+++
What if i'm wrong obeying the law, and telling others it's a better life? Do some think the Almighty will strike me down for loving, and respecting Him enough to do so? The Almighty see's my heart, and He see's that i only want to see His people living in victory, and not living a beat down life in the world. We Have to be in the world for now, but we don't have to be of the world. In conclusion i will keep obeying what the Father say's, and telling others its a better life, and if Father is not happy with me, then i'll have to deal with that when the time comes, until then, i'll say, we'll see.