Socialism among Jesus' disciples
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My Lady, you know I love you and respect you, but let me clarify something: on paper and in a perfect world I would agree with you that socialism is a good thing, but in reality the rich make the laws to protect their money with extreme prejudice, and they make it so the working man and working woman provide for the poor, who for the most part, are lazy parasites who can work but refuse to do so. This makes socialism and its benefactors reprehensible. 
strange, how, the first part of your quote,said the rich make the laws, your governed by. yet the rich can say, the worker is paid for his service.so after they are no longer needed in this service, are they responsible the same way as the employer. when the employer paid them for the work they have done or ask to be done. yet morals or spiritual reasoning to the fact there is a god. the employer can still say, you were paid, your morals and spiritual reasoning have nothing to do with me.
yet because some work for them are they in the same bracket as judus.
just a thought
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I'm sorry, Royalscot, I'm having difficulty understanding what you're asking.
And I always appreciate what you share so please know no disrespect is ever taken.
And I always appreciate what you share so please know no disrespect is ever taken.
My Lady, you know I love you and respect you, but let me clarify something: on paper and in a perfect world I would agree with you that socialism is a good thing, but in reality the rich make the laws to protect their money with extreme prejudice, and they make it so the working man and working woman provide for the poor, who for the most part, are lazy parasites who can work but refuse to do so. This makes socialism and its benefactors reprehensible.
no disrespect intended.
strange, how, the first part of your quote,said the rich make the laws, your governed by. yet the rich can say, the worker is paid for his service.so after they are no longer needed in this service, are they responsible the same way as the employer. when the employer paid them for the work they have done or ask to be done. yet morals or spiritual reasoning to the fact there is a god. the employer can still say, you were paid, your morals and spiritual reasoning have nothing to do with me.
yet because some work for them are they in the same bracket as judus.
just a thought
are the in the same bracket the workers as the employers, or is everyone a lazy parasites .
i never asked anything.
Originally Posted by Utah
My Lady, you know I love you and respect you, but let me clarify something: on paper and in a perfect world I would agree with you that socialism is a good thing, but in reality the rich make the laws to protect their money with extreme prejudice, and they make it so the working man and working woman provide for the poor, who for the most part, are lazy parasites who can work but refuse to do so. This makes socialism and its benefactors reprehensible.
no disrespect intended.
strange, how, the first part of your quote,said the rich make the laws, your governed by. yet the rich can say, the worker is paid for his service.so after they are no longer needed in this service, are they responsible the same way as the employer. when the employer paid them for the work they have done or ask to be done. yet morals or spiritual reasoning to the fact there is a god. the employer can still say, you were paid, your morals and spiritual reasoning have nothing to do with me.
yet because some work for them are they in the same bracket as judus.
just a thought
are the in the same bracket the workers as the employers, or is everyone a lazy parasites .
My Lady, you know I love you and respect you, but let me clarify something: on paper and in a perfect world I would agree with you that socialism is a good thing, but in reality the rich make the laws to protect their money with extreme prejudice, and they make it so the working man and working woman provide for the poor, who for the most part, are lazy parasites who can work but refuse to do so. This makes socialism and its benefactors reprehensible.
no disrespect intended.
strange, how, the first part of your quote,said the rich make the laws, your governed by. yet the rich can say, the worker is paid for his service.so after they are no longer needed in this service, are they responsible the same way as the employer. when the employer paid them for the work they have done or ask to be done. yet morals or spiritual reasoning to the fact there is a god. the employer can still say, you were paid, your morals and spiritual reasoning have nothing to do with me.
yet because some work for them are they in the same bracket as judus.
just a thought
are the in the same bracket the workers as the employers, or is everyone a lazy parasites .
are they in the same bracket as judas (the apostle that killed him self) the workers as the employers.
after make a statement like lazy parasites. seems to confuse the quote. etc etc
Lazy parasites are people who are physically and cognitively capable of working but choose not to do so. Instead, they vote politicians into office who in turn, tax the working class people and give the taxed money to the parasites who, once again, continue to vote these politicians into office, who in turn continue to give them more taxed money . . . and the cycle goes on.
There are now so many parasites that they are collectively draining the economic system. It's like an inverted pyramid. The smaller working class is on the bottom supporting the larger section of parasites on top. Eventually the inverted pyramid is going to crash.
There are now so many parasites that they are collectively draining the economic system. It's like an inverted pyramid. The smaller working class is on the bottom supporting the larger section of parasites on top. Eventually the inverted pyramid is going to crash.
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“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
― Margaret Thatcher
― Margaret Thatcher
would socialism be running without the forgiveness of god.
6 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
then he kept the world spinning for a reason. the only questions would be to why god did this.
18 Who is a God like you, pardoning iniquity
and passing over transgression
for the remnant of his inheritance?
He does not retain his anger forever,
because he delights in steadfast love.Micah 7
and
6 he says:
"It is too light a thing that you should be my servant
to raise up the tribes of Jacob
and to bring back the preserved of Israel;
I will make you as a light for the nations,
that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth."Isaiah 49
so how can man answer for an other man.
6 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
then he kept the world spinning for a reason. the only questions would be to why god did this.
18 Who is a God like you, pardoning iniquity
and passing over transgression
for the remnant of his inheritance?
He does not retain his anger forever,
because he delights in steadfast love.Micah 7
and
6 he says:
"It is too light a thing that you should be my servant
to raise up the tribes of Jacob
and to bring back the preserved of Israel;
I will make you as a light for the nations,
that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth."Isaiah 49
so how can man answer for an other man.
The mutual decision to pool resources for the collective good of a community is more akin to the Israeli kibbuts system than to socialism.
When a government decides to play RobinHood, it is a very different thing.
If believers had shown the compassion for the needy that God's Word calls us to show, Government would have had neither reason nor opportunity to step in and botch it up!
When a government decides to play RobinHood, it is a very different thing.
If believers had shown the compassion for the needy that God's Word calls us to show, Government would have had neither reason nor opportunity to step in and botch it up!
What is existing to some degree in Canada and now coming to US is still not socialism proper. It's a far cry from having the workers owning the means of production, of being co-owners of and handling of the profits, of having equal wages for all types of works (Marx saw labor as a value in itself, important feature of his value theory) and still yet many other treats that is even close to socialism. Up to a point this was practiced in the USSR, mostly with terrible results. What we see now in the west with moves towards more redistribution of income/wealth and enlarged welfare systems, financed through taxation, is perhaps a mild form of social democracy, but it's still far from the socialist ideal.