What laws are still in affect?

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Dietary laws are still in affect which are the clean and unclean meat.

Ceremonial laws are still in affect which are the Holy Feasts of God.

Moral laws are still in affect which are the 10 commandments.

Sacrificial/levitical laws are done away which consists of animal sacrifices, tithing and so forth because Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice and the High Priest.

Judgmental law/ law of sin and death which is done away with because Jesus died for our sins and so that our punishment would no longer be death.

So the judgmental laws/sin and death are done away and the animal sacrificial laws which were only done by the levitical priest are done away let's not forget tithing you are now to give freely!
Please leave a comment if you agree or disagree. If you disagree please prove only by the Word of God or it's not proof thanks! :)
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (*Matthew‬ *7‬:*15-21‬ KJV)
 
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Dietary laws are still in affect which are the clean and unclean meat.

Ceremonial laws are still in affect which are the Holy Feasts of God.

Moral laws are still in affect which are the 10 commandments.

Sacrificial/levitical laws are done away which consists of animal sacrifices, tithing and so forth because Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice and the High Priest.

Judgmental law/ law of sin and death which is done away with because Jesus died for our sins and so that our punishment would no longer be death.

So the judgmental laws/sin and death are done away and the animal sacrificial laws which were only done by the levitical priest are done away let's not forget tithing you are now to give freely!
Please leave a comment if you agree or disagree. If you disagree please prove only by the Word of God or it's not proof thanks! :)
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (*Matthew‬ *7‬:*15-21‬ KJV)
When they heard this, they praised God. Then they said to Paul: “You see, brother, how many thousands of Jews have believed, and all of them are zealous for the law. [SUP]21 [/SUP]They have been informed that you teach all the Jews who live among the Gentiles to turn away from Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children or live according to our customs. [SUP]22 [/SUP]What shall we do? They will certainly hear that you have come, [SUP]23 [/SUP]so do what we tell you. There are four men with us who have made a vow. [SUP]24 [/SUP]Take these men, join in their purification rites and pay their expenses, so that they can have their heads shaved. Then everyone will know there is no truth in these reports about you, but that you yourself are living in obedience to the law. [SUP]25[/SUP]As for the Gentile believers, we have written to them our decision that they should abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality.”

Acts 21:20-25
 
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Don't do yourself an injustice and disagree because it may sound foreign to your ears. Come as a babe and with simplicity.
He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. (*Matthew‬ *11‬:*15‬ KJV)
 
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Don't do yourself an injustice and disagree because it may sound foreign to your ears. Come as a babe and with simplicity.
He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. (*Matthew‬ *11‬:*15‬ KJV)
You asked for scripture, I gave it to you:

It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. [SUP]20[/SUP]Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood
Acts 15:19&20

Three of the above laws it is widely believed were given to appease Jewish legalists who had become Christians. Some believers wanted Gentile converts to be circumcised and required to obey the whole law
 
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I'm not understanding your post...? Help me out...
 

john832

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When they heard this, they praised God. Then they said to Paul: “You see, brother, how many thousands of Jews have believed, and all of them are zealous for the law. [SUP]21 [/SUP]They have been informed that you teach all the Jews who live among the Gentiles to turn away from Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children or live according to our customs. [SUP]22 [/SUP]What shall we do? They will certainly hear that you have come, [SUP]23 [/SUP]so do what we tell you. There are four men with us who have made a vow. [SUP]24 [/SUP]Take these men, join in their purification rites and pay their expenses, so that they can have their heads shaved. Then everyone will know there is no truth in these reports about you, but that you yourself are living in obedience to the law. [SUP]25[/SUP]As for the Gentile believers, we have written to them our decision that they should abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality.”

Acts 21:20-25
Uh, that mean they can murder and lie?
 
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Uh, that mean they can murder and lie?
Possibly you should ask yourself why only those laws were given

Or did the Jerusalem church make an error in only mentioning those laws in your view?
 
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And what are you saying??? Do you understand what you are reading Sir?
 

john832

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Possibly you should ask yourself why only those laws were given

Or did the Jerusalem church make an error in only mentioning those laws in your view?
Perhaps you should quit quoting scripture out of context and you won't have to explain the foolish statements you make.
 
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Perhaps you should quit quoting scripture out of context and you won't have to explain the foolish statements you make.
Or perhaps if you understand the message behind the literal letter you would not ask the questions you do.

It is not enough simply to quote the literal letter, the Pharisees of Jesus day were experts at that.

If you would like to answer my question to you that would be nice
 

john832

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Yes I do sir, for it is very plainly written
So, let's see, you believe that having other gods before God, bowing to statues and idols, taking God's name in vain, breaking the Sabbath, dishonoring parents, murdering, stealing, lying and lusting are all acceptable for gentiles?

You believe that is not as important as teaching them to abstain from things strangled and eating blood?

I think your lack of understanding of the scripture is quite obvious.
 
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So, let's see, you believe that having other gods before God, bowing to statues and idols, taking God's name in vain, breaking the Sabbath, dishonoring parents, murdering, stealing, lying and lusting are all acceptable for gentiles?

You believe that is not as important as teaching them to abstain from things strangled and eating blood?

I think your lack of understanding of the scripture is quite obvious.

Your words show you do not understand the core of the new covenant the Christian is under sadly
 

tribesman

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*sighs*...p_rehbein...your input needed here.
 

john832

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Or perhaps if you understand the message behind the literal letter you would not ask the questions you do.

It is not enough simply to quote the literal letter, the Pharisees of Jesus day were experts at that.

If you would like to answer my question to you that would be nice
Ah, I see, you have special, secret knowledge that most do not have. This is simply another manifestation of Gnosticism.
 
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So, let's see, you believe that having other gods before God, bowing to statues and idols, taking God's name in vain, breaking the Sabbath, dishonoring parents, murdering, stealing, lying and lusting are all acceptable for gentiles?

You believe that is not as important as teaching them to abstain from things strangled and eating blood?

I think your lack of understanding of the scripture is quite obvious.
Why do you think the Ten Commandments were not mentioned in the Council of Jerusalem as laws the Gentile converts be asked to obey?

As you brought the subject up, it would be good to hear your opinion on the matter
 
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Ah, I see, you have special, secret knowledge that most do not have. This is simply another manifestation of Gnosticism.
You make statements but seldom answer any questions!

No I have no special knowledge, it is all plainly written
 

john832

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Your words show you do not understand the core of the new covenant the Christian is under sadly
I believe it was you who wrote this...

Possibly you should ask yourself why only those laws were given

Or did the Jerusalem church make an error in only mentioning those laws in your view?
Or did you really not mean what you wrote?
 
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