hey I was just wondering

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Blain

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I was wondering something, how come we are physically seperated from God? I mean I know that we live in seperate worlds obviously I cannot go to him but what is stopping him from coming to me? See last night out of nowhere for reasons I have no clue I was overcome with deep sadness and hopelessness the second I lay in my bed. I felt a deep pain in my soul i mean it really hurt, and more than anything i wanted jesus to suddenly appear and hold me in his arms. in my tears I put my hand on my cheek imagining the hand I wished was there, I needed to not just feel his hand there but physically see it.

But of course jesus didnt appear and the only hand i could on my cheek was my own. I am better now I still i have no idea why i was suddenly overcome by that but it makes me wonder why he never comes and appears to us. I mean it would be so wonderful if occasionally he would just show up and I could actually wrap my arms around him talk with him and you know spend time time with him. I know he says he is always wth us but do most of us actually fully believe that? does it really seem like he is standing right beside us? Believe me I have faith and usually i am strong like a warrior but in the end I m just a child who longs for his father and his jesus. Sure I pretend to be a warrior i fight and kill invisable flighter jets while jesus watches me play and laughes but at the end of the day when I have destroyed the enemy saved the world and the princess I yawn and curl up in my lords arms where I belong.

This life and me is simply a game im not really a warrior im just pretending im really just a child in the end I dont care about honor or glory or treasure I only care about curling up in his arms
 
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cmarieh

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I was always taught that when Adam and Eve sinned against God is what created the distance between us and God.
 

blue_ladybug

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Jesus is ALWAYS with us. Just because we can't physically see him with our own eyes doesn't mean he's not there.. I have felt his presence many times. :) When we are troubled, or in pain, is when he is the closest to us.. If our earthly eyes could see through the veil, I think we would see Jesus and his multitude of angels all around us. :)
 

Utah

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One time in worship service I was staring at the cross and I yearned with all my heart for Jesus to appear to me, but He didn't. A moment like that could weaken someone's faith if we allow it to do so. I know now He is always with us.

He was with you, Brother, you just didn't feel His hand, though it was indeed there. And remember, our current sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed.
 

Blain

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I was always taught that when Adam and Eve sinned against God is what created the distance between us and God.
Originally yes but Jesus' Blood fixed that we are made clean and pure in his eyes
 

crossnote

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Originally yes but Jesus' Blood fixed that we are made clean and pure in his eyes
But still...we have not our glorified bodies...so until then, it's a walk of faith and not by sight.
 
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elf3

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Originally yes but Jesus' Blood fixed that we are made clean and pure in his eyes
Hebrews 11:1-3 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good testimony. By faith we understand that the world's were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible."

By our faith we know God is always near us. He is never separate from us.

The blood of Christ justifies us before God but that does not mean we will now see Him "bodily". If God chose to appear before us He would but for now He chooses not too.
 

MarcR

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I was wondering something, how come we are physically seperated from God? I mean I know that we live in seperate worlds obviously I cannot go to him but what is stopping him from coming to me? See last night out of nowhere for reasons I have no clue I was overcome with deep sadness and hopelessness the second I lay in my bed. I felt a deep pain in my soul i mean it really hurt, and more than anything i wanted jesus to suddenly appear and hold me in his arms. in my tears I put my hand on my cheek imagining the hand I wished was there, I needed to not just feel his hand there but physically see it.

But of course jesus didnt appear and the only hand i could on my cheek was my own. I am better now I still i have no idea why i was suddenly overcome by that but it makes me wonder why he never comes and appears to us. I mean it would be so wonderful if occasionally he would just show up and I could actually wrap my arms around him talk with him and you know spend time time with him. I know he says he is always wth us but do most of us actually fully believe that? does it really seem like he is standing right beside us? Believe me I have faith and usually i am strong like a warrior but in the end I m just a child who longs for his father and his jesus. Sure I pretend to be a warrior i fight and kill invisable flighter jets while jesus watches me play and laughes but at the end of the day when I have destroyed the enemy saved the world and the princess I yawn and curl up in my lords arms where I belong.

This life and me is simply a game im not really a warrior im just pretending im really just a child in the end I dont care about honor or glory or treasure I only care about curling up in his arms
I don't know how much help this will be:

I believe that Jesus is perpetually present through the indwelling Holy Spirit. The lack of physical manifestation does not make him any less present. Instead of lamenting His physical absence praise His part in your emotional recovery.
 

Blain

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Ty everyone for all your helpful advice I appreciate it :]
 

Joidevivre

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There is also the fact that the believers in Christ make up His body - and we should be physical representatives of that essence of Christ through our love, our touch of comfort, our gentle voice, our physically being there when someone else is suffering. To really be His hands, heart, feet and love. That is why we are told not to forsake the gathering of ourselves together.

And Marc was so right on when He said that the Holy Spirit indwells us and reveals Christ to us in many different ways

have found that if I begin worshiping and blessing Him through my praises, giving thanks for everything, I begin to feel His presence even more. It comes when my eyes are OFF MYSELF and what I need, and focused on Him and who He is, and what He has done for us.

It is like we enter into His gates with thanksgiving, and there He is!
 

pickles

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I have felt the same many times blain, one of my fave songs is called a cradle in his arms. :) I think the author goes by the name Janis, but not sure.

To your questions though, sin is what separated us from God.
But God so loved us that while we were still sinners, He sent His only begotten son to pay the price for our sins.
So we would no longer be saparate.
I think it is Romans of corr, that Paul spoke well to this.
Jesus said. that when you believe upon me, you die to flesh with me, so that you will be born again with me, for when you died to flesh with me, I placed a part of my Spirit to be born into with me.
Jesus is telling you that God sent Him, so you are no longer apart, but now one with Him in Spirit.
You are now born again into His Spirit, to grow and mature in His Spirit, flesh is just the temple that holds this Spirit in Jesus.
In faith know you are no longer sepparate from God, but by Jesus, as Jesus said, that you may be one with the Father as I am one with the Father.
God loves you so much He did not want you to be sepparated from Him, that is why He sent Jesus!
Know this in faith.
And the distance no longer will be between you, but Jesus will be with you. :)
It is trully the basis for all praise given!!! :)

God bless
pickles
 

Jon4TheCross

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Luke 17:20-22Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

20*And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21*neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

22*And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.

Also Blain...your hand is the hand of The Lord in a way...cause He bought it.

Acts 4:29-31Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

29*And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word, 30*by stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.

31*And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.

God can use His hand by using the hand He bought which you surrendered to Him as a living sacrifice.

I love ya man.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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I was wondering something, how come we are physically seperated from God? I mean I know that we live in seperate worlds obviously I cannot go to him but what is stopping him from coming to me?
Since Adam and Eve brought sin and deception into the world, the world itself is deteriorating as a result. Before their sin, God walked in the Garden with them. Since then, He has not set foot upon the Earth except in the form of Christ, or other than in His brief and impactful encounter with Moses on Sinai. I believe the reason is that, as Habakkuk wrote, He can tolerate the presence of sin.

Habakkuk 1, NASB
13 Your eyes are too pure to approve evil,
And You can not look on wickedness with favor.
Why do You look with favor
On those who deal treacherously?
Why are You silent when the wicked swallow up
Those more righteous than they?

Habakkuk was questioning God, literally, as to why He could not look upon sin -- which certainly extrapolates to the reality He cannot abide the presence of sin -- but did not immediately deal with the treacherous and the wicked. God assured him he was correct, and that God would, soon thereafter, deal with the nations that so viciously took Israel captive.