Any Biblical advice on this matter?

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Jon4TheCross

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So...
When God told me to do the 40 day and night fast...and count the days...I did accomplish what He told me.
Looking back I feel I missed out on a portion by not staying out there longer like Jesus did.

So...
Now I have been told to go out again...even though I have only been back out of the woods for a couple weeks after fasting 10 days.

This time the scripture God keeps bringing to mind over and over is...

Luke 10:38-42Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

38*Now it came to pass, as they went, that he entered into a certain village: and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house. 39*And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus’ feet, and heard his word. 40*But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me. 41*And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things: 42*but one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.

So...
It is impossible for God to lie...and He said only one thing is needful.

What are your thoughts on trusting vs testing?

Would it be testing God to choose to eat and drink nothing according to the flesh while continually reading the bible during the day and praying continually during the night.

He did also say...

Luke 12:20-32Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

20*But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? 21*So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.

22*And he said unto his disciples, Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat; neither for the body, what ye shall put on. 23*The life is more than meat, and the body is more than raiment. 24*Consider the ravens: for they neither sow nor reap; which neither have storehouse nor barn; and God feedeth them: how much more are ye better than the fowls? 25*And which of you with taking thought can add to his stature one cubit? 26*If ye then be not able to do that thing which is least, why take ye thought for the rest? 27*Consider the lilies how they grow: they toil not, they spin not; and yet I say unto you, that Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 28*If then God so clothe the grass, which is to day in the field, and to morrow is cast into the oven; how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little faith? 29*And seek not ye what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind. 30*For all these things do the nations of the world seek after: and your Father knoweth that ye have need of these things. 31*But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you. 32*Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

So...
Who thinks it is trusting to simply follow those scriptures even if it means I might die according to the flesh literally?

Perhaps God is proving my level of trust by putting it in my heart to do so?
 

tourist

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I would not go the 40 day fast unless you have a death wish. 10 days that you fasted was sufficient. You are drinking water when you fast are you not? I believe that your level of trust in God is quite high and there is no need to kill yourself to prove a point.
 
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ditto tourist
 

Jon4TheCross

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Yes I agree...but it is not to prove a point in my heart...but because I do not want to miss out on glorifying God to a greater level if by trusting and following to that degree. I do drink water...yes...and only once did I go without water for 3 and a half days trusting God...and then it rained. But it seems I have no reason not to trust blindly that I do not even need water.

I mean...He could surely tell me to drink water...and it wouldn't be testing if I brought some with me...don't you think?

I cannot think of how this desire could be testing God...but that is why I ask for input.
 

Jon4TheCross

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If I do follow through I will not tell anyone...but do please keep me in your prayers either way.

I surely do not want to and have no need to test God.
 

tourist

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Yes I agree...but it is not to prove a point in my heart...but because I do not want to miss out on glorifying God to a greater level if by trusting and following to that degree. I do drink water...yes...and only once did I go without water for 3 and a half days trusting God...and then it rained. But it seems I have no reason not to trust blindly that I do not even need water.

I mean...He could surely tell me to drink water...and it wouldn't be testing if I brought some with me...don't you think?

I cannot think of how this desire could be testing God...but that is why I ask for input.
It rains on both the just and the unjust. DO NOT FAST without drinking water.
 

Jon4TheCross

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I will not deny that I have pondered why the Bible says Jesus hungered...and didnt mention thirst after the 40.
While Jesus was dying on the cross He said I thirst though.

I will pray about this some more... cause Paul did fast from eating and drinking...but only for 3 days if I remember right.

Thanks for your input and any to follow...and thanks for prayers for me.
 

crossnote

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Jon4[/URL]"]Jon4[/URL]TheCross;1943696]So...
When God told me to do the 40 day and night fast...and count the days...I did accomplish what He told me.
Looking back I feel I missed out on a portion by not staying out there longer like Jesus did.

So...
Now I have been told to go out again...even though I have only been back out of the woods for a couple weeks after fasting 10 days.

This time the scripture God keeps bringing to mind over and over is...

Luke 10:38-42Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

38*Now it came to pass, as they went, that he entered into a certain village: and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house. 39*And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus’ feet, and heard his word. 40*But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me. 41*And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things: 42*but one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.

So...
It is impossible for God to lie...and He said only one thing is needful.

What are your thoughts on trusting vs testing?

Would it be testing God to choose to eat and drink nothing according to the flesh while continually reading the bible during the day and praying continually during the night.

He did also say...

Luke 12:20-32Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

20*But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? 21*So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.

22*And he said unto his disciples, Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat; neither for the body, what ye shall put on. 23*The life is more than meat, and the body is more than raiment. 24*Consider the ravens: for they neither sow nor reap; which neither have storehouse nor barn; and God feedeth them: how much more are ye better than the fowls? 25*And which of you with taking thought can add to his stature one cubit? 26*If ye then be not able to do that thing which is least, why take ye thought for the rest? 27*Consider the lilies how they grow: they toil not, they spin not; and yet I say unto you, that Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 28*If then God so clothe the grass, which is to day in the field, and to morrow is cast into the oven; how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little faith? 29*And seek not ye what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind. 30*For all these things do the nations of the world seek after: and your Father knoweth that ye have need of these things. 31*But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you. 32*Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

So...
Who thinks it is trusting to simply follow those scriptures even if it means I might die according to the flesh literally?

Perhaps God is proving my level of trust by putting it in my heart to do so?
Mat 6:16 "And when you fast, do not look gloomy like the hypocrites, for they disfigure their faces that their fasting may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward.
Mat 6:17 But when you fast, anoint your head and wash your face,
Mat 6:18 that your fasting may not be seen by others but by your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
 

Jon4TheCross

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Still...
I was going to do another 40 with water at the same spot as the first...and a week before I made it back to WA a huge storm knocked over a bunch of trees in that area...and as I tried to find the spot again I got lost because all the horse trails were unrecognizable due to soo many trees down all over. This led me to a gravel road which I hiked for a few days...which led me to living at a cabin on a lake with no running water or electricity for a few months.

So the gifts of God are without repentance...but He didn't at that time allow me to find my spot with thecreek by it...so it makes me want to go with no water when thinking about what He said regarding the one needful thing and taking no thought for even what I should drink.

Ok...anyhow...I will pray more about all this.

Still...none has pointed out how this could be testing God if I simply want to follow His words for His glory.
And...No group of believers I can find want to practice not calling anything their own...so...maybe God truly is wanting me to practice all things common with Him? And I do not believe Jesus is drinking or eating this earths matter right now.

So then...
Can anyone help me define testing God vs trusting. But testing is what I surely do not want to do.
 

Jon4TheCross

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Mat 6:16 "And when you fast, do not look gloomy like the hypocrites, for they disfigure their faces that their fasting may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward.
Mat 6:17 But when you fast, anoint your head and wash your face,
Mat 6:18 that your fasting may not be seen by others but by your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
I would be in the woods and nobody would know for sure that I was fasting. The first time it could not be hidden either way...cause I walked out of a place where I was helping and they asked where I was going. I did not want to lie.
 

Jon4TheCross

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I will start another thread all about testing in general vs trusting.
 
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Personally, I think you already blew it by advertising it on the internet. Did God happen to mention doing that?
 

Jon4TheCross

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How so...
Asking for advice on something without knowing for sure if I am going to do it or not is not wrong. So...also...thrre are some fasts in the Bible most all Christians around the world know about...so maybe it has something to do with the number 40 that God did not allow me to keep the first one secret.
 

Jon4TheCross

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Either way it is part of my testimony...and to God be the glory...not mr...

Ok...starting an in general testing thread.
 
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Matthew 9:15 Jesus answered, “How can the guests of the bridegroom mourn while he is with them? The time will come when the bridegroom will be taken from them; then they will fast.

Depression is a feeling of sadness that does not go away for two weeks or longer and begins to interfere with your ability to function day to day. One of the most common signs of depression is a change in how much you eat. For some people with depression, this means a loss of appetite, while for others, the amount you eat may increase. http://www.everydayhealth.com/health-report/major-depression/depressions-effect-on-appetite.aspx
 

Jon4TheCross

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That is interesting...cause I usually eat a bunch or not at all lol.